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When is the iMac going to get a new redesign?
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Are there any plans for a Core 3 Duo?
Quad Core (Penryn) late 07!
Quite happy with my Core Duo right now!
Seems like processor design is getting way ahead of software again. Main day to day practical benefit might be further energy efficiency unless running optimized high end video games or editing.
(I hope Apple keep the "all-in-one" design ethos of the iMac - after all the iPhone comes in one piece - it's the future)!
In the iMac? If so, awesome. That's when I will be acquiring my next desktop machine then.
Something like this!?!
Looks like we'd have to pay through the nose for something like that!
I'm comparing an average PC with a wire for the monitor, mouse and keyboard running down the side, connecting to a big ugly box. I just love the simplicity of the iMac. And like I said, I don't even notice the chin, and in fact, this wasn't even an issue when I first saw an iMac. I was just impressed with picture, clarity, and performance.
But do what you want. Not getting a computer because of aesthetic reasons is downright stupid, but oh, well. Have fun with your PC.
I redesign is in order because this was a design for the G5 iMac...stuffing an intel board or by designing around the case seems akward to me. The design is ok but it's long overdue for an overhaul to fit in more nicely with the current product offering. During the intel transition powerbooks, powermacs, and ibooks all got new enclosures. The only thing that didn't was the mac mini so this iMac is long overdue.
I'd like to see something with some type of silver metal like the displays or powermacs or even mac mini.
Its design is dated, 2 years now so I would expect a all new machine minus the chin in the next few months. Next to the iphone it looks like .....
I'm comparing an average PC with a wire for the monitor, mouse and keyboard running down the side, connecting to a big ugly box. I just love the simplicity of the iMac. And like I said, I don't even notice the chin, and in fact, this wasn't even an issue when I first saw an iMac. I was just impressed with picture, clarity, and performance.
But do what you want. Not getting a computer because of aesthetic reasons is downright stupid, but oh, well. Have fun with your PC.
Stupid because I won't buy a computer that is ugly and ill designed and basically, a huge fat monitor? I think you'll find most humans consider aesthetics when they purchase a product, be it clothes, cars, houses or computers. Apple are well aware of this which is why they invest good money into good product designers. If, like you, we considered only what we get out of a product, the ipod would be made of wood.
I am a designer so perhaps that's why I appreciate well designed products, it's a pleasure to look at something made so beautifully; sometimes it's the little things that count. If you don't care about aesthetics, perhaps, sir, it's you who should be using the PC?
Just Cross-Platform it
You can cross your CS2 license to the Mac from the PC for just about "free". You just pay the shipping of the new copy from Adobe. $5 for standard, $15 for 2 day.
Call them, tell them you want to do it - they will send you a form to fill out and fax back to them, then the order gets processed. You will still need to do this with THEM for CS3, you need a new serial number.
It's easy and done all the time!!
You can cross your CS2 license to the Mac from the PC for just about "free". You just pay the shipping of the new copy from Adobe. $5 for standard, $15 for 2 day.
Call them, tell them you want to do it - they will send you a form to fill out and fax back to them, then the order gets processed. You will still need to do this with THEM for CS3, you need a new serial number.
It's easy and done all the time!!
Try waxing your reading comprehension skills. When did I say that I didn't care about aesthetics?
I said that people should buy a product for its function, first. So why should I buy a PC? Doesn't make sense.You can call the iMac ugly, ill-designed, and fat (?), because you're entitled to your opinion. However, many people love the design (including me). It's one of the reasons (not the main reason) that helped me pick the iMac.
It's amazing what people will complain about. No matter what the design, there will always be critics.
Show me a PC that has an all-in-one package that looks better, and I'll shut up.
apples design team is too busy designing all the new consumer devices....like a tv and vcr combo
ROFL!
Plug the VCR into the TV, put the tape in the VCR. It just works, people!
Although I do have to admit that owning a HD LCD TV suddenly has reignited my interest in (SD) DVDs.... They look shockingly good on the thing! Suddenly I actually went out and got a Blockbuster card again! It was like a blast from the past.
So if it's looks was one of the reasons why you picked an iMac, why can your brain not fathom someone not liking the look of it being a reason for not buying one?
Why do you constantly keep referring to PC's? Your not an Apple fanboy by any chance are you Paul?
My PC does look better because all I see all day is a 2cm thin monitor with 1cm of plastic around the edges. Sure, my monitor has 'oh my god' a wire, but the clever blokes that made the screen have put it at the back so it is effectively invisible unless I move my table away from the wall and look at it backwards.
Now if I brought an iMac, what would I see? First off less desk space - the extra thickness at the back would give me less room than my current screen because it's so fat. Secondly, less viewable area, and yes more plastic to look at all day long, every day.
The decision is not hard, I don't doubt that the insides on the iMac are better and more productive - but the outside? Compared to a regular ultra thin flat screen? Not a chance.
You can argue all day long that "the iMac has no box" but in realistic terms, unless a pc user gets on his hands and knees and crawls to the dark corners under his desk, he sees no box either.
So if we take two people, a mac guy and pc guy, they both look at a screen all day, nothing more nothing less - but, the pc guy sits all day and sees a flat screen, and the mac guy sees a fat screen with a fat chin.
hoho
Your arguments are getting more and more ridiculous and illogical. I'm not even going to waste my time with this. I'll just say this--an iMac is a beautifully built machine. But a few people will still critique it. Just like anything else. Take the Ferrari Enzo, for instance. It's also a beautifully built machine, but some people (a few) don't like it at all, and say it's ugly. Even if they have the funds and means to buy it, they don't, only because they think it doesn't "look cool." What are they missing out on? An F1 inspired machine with 650 hp and the handling and aerodynamics of a Formula 1 car (almost...
) Now, before you go putting words in my mouth that I'm comparing the Mac to a Ferrari--I'm not. But hopefully, you get the point.If you don't like Macs, fine. I really don't care. But that begs the question--why are you here?
And for the record, you brought up PC's first. I've used PC's all my life. I still use one at work. I'm no "fanboy." I will always choose function over form.
iMac will be renewed this year with a chinlift, I would even bet a dollar on it. The Chin isnt all that attractive to a lot of people and if you have a decent display allready.........
Apple needs a cooler looking iMac and a Display less iMac to seal up this market. When going into the closest Mac Store they have a G4 as store computer, G5/Intels look ugly next to that G4 iMac. To me imac looks like a ipod. The next face lift should be interesting, Im hoping more iphone looks with just a screen with little or no edge and perhaps a moveable screen.
The Chin isnt all that attractive to a lot of people and if you have a decent display allready.........Apple needs a cooler looking iMac and a Display less iMac to seal up this market. When going into the closest Mac Store they have a G4 as store computer, G5/Intels look ugly next to that G4 iMac. To me imac looks like a ipod.
The next face lift should be interesting, Im hoping more iphone looks with just a screen with little or no edge and perhaps a moveable screen.
Bring back the G4 iMac
The G5/Intel is like an overweight middle-aged single guy with a double chin.
The G5/Intel is like an overweight middle-aged single guy with a double chin.
Your arguments are getting more and more ridiculous and illogical. I'm not even going to waste my time with this. I'll just say this--an iMac is a beautifully built machine. But a few people will still critique it. Just like anything else. Take the Ferrari Enzo, for instance. It's also a beautifully built machine, but some people (a few) don't like it at all, and say it's ugly. Even if they have the funds and means to buy it, they don't, only because they think it doesn't "look cool." What are they missing out on? An F1 inspired machine with 650 hp and the handling and aerodynamics of a Formula 1 car (almost...
If you don't like Macs, fine. I really don't care. But that begs the question--why are you here?
And for the record, you brought up PC's first. I've used PC's all my life. I still use one at work. I'm no "fanboy." I will always choose function over form.
Nobody's arguing.... I am simply saying I don't like the iMac in it's current state. Not Macs per se. I have used Macs for 15 years in all of my jobs. You just don't seem to understand someone not wanting to part with £1000 on something ugly and seem to be trying to argue that it isn't ugly and that it shouldn't stop me anyway, which is by and large fruitless. Even on this thread, if you read back a lot of people are not fans of the big chin.
To put it another way, I could meet the nicest woman in the world, but if she had a huge disfigurement like a huge chin I would be put off. Come on, you can't tell me that would not put you off too?
I wouldn't buy a Ferrari either, even if it flew me to the moon - they are a little too cheesy and tacky for me. Give me an Aston Martin any day, now that is a proper car.
After reading this thread, I have a couple things that I want to comment on...
iMac name change? ~
I don't think that will change, they may change it, but think of iMac as meaning integrated Mac. Meaning it's a Mac but it's integrated with a monitor. It's the only one of the three Desktop systems that has an integrated monitor attached to it, so it would seem sort of likely to keep the naming moniker a little different to hint that it's slightly different than the other two, in having an attached monitor. Plus changing the name to Mac, would make things a little interesting if they do come out with a mid-range tower, what would they call that?
iMac redesign? ~
Not sure when that redesign will be, as yeah, it hasn't had much of a design change, since a minor refresh, with a smaller enclosure awhile ago, but it wasn't a major change. We can only wonder when they are changing the design, but for them the iMac is working, even if some people are wanting an additional mid-range desktop... Maybe they are waiting for an update for Apple Cinema Displays to release a new Mac. However, it's pretty much any one of our guesses as to when it will redesign. I don't personally find the chin bad to look at, but I guess it could be done away with, but I think removing the chin, may make the imac even thicker, since they have to cram even more electronics behind the monitor.
My thinking is, each one of us has their own opinion as to how the computer will look at, some people like it, some people don't. There won't be a single consensus as to whether the design and look is perfect, it probably will never be perfect. If you don't like the look or like the look should that decide whether we go to pc or mac? Probably not, in fact I think that kind of thinking will hold apple back in the long run, as not everyone is buying computers for aesthetics. Maybe it's what's holding you back from getting the imac, is the looks or possibility of an upgrade, but .. as in the past, we can only guess, and well everyone's entitled their opinion of the chin or other aspects of the imac. Is it better than any of the other offerings of an all-in-one pc? Don't know, I haven't really ever looked at those machines, but I think apple's been one of the few who has ever been consistently successful with an all-in-one design. I wouldn't compare the iMac to just a regular LCD monitor, since they are different products, simply because the LCD monitor has less to cram into it versus the iMac.. I can only see it as an argument in favor of adding a mid-range mac tower to the product list. And just because you don't like the imac, doesn't mean you don't like macs ... But as much as we want desktop midrange towers, the market is going the other way, more and more people are starting to buy laptops, and that in itself may make Apple look the other way for a midrange tower, (though I don't remember the last time they've had one of those). Finally, what's with this if you don't like the design, or lke the design, go to pc, instead? People don't always buy apples for their design.. True, we pay a premium for the design, and part of the reason I bought my macbook pro was the design, but I personally like osx more than windows.
Anyways I think I've rambled enough. I think it's a little sad that this thread has become another battleground of people who like the imac look and those who don't and people are using pc's as a basis of comparison. It seems to me that there are people who are saying "why you comparing it to pc" or "if you don't like this, go to pc" kind of comments. *shrug* There are other products for people to buy, not just the imac. People buy macs for many different reason, design is just one of them, not the whole picture. Just my 5 cents worth
iMac name change? ~
I don't think that will change, they may change it, but think of iMac as meaning integrated Mac. Meaning it's a Mac but it's integrated with a monitor. It's the only one of the three Desktop systems that has an integrated monitor attached to it, so it would seem sort of likely to keep the naming moniker a little different to hint that it's slightly different than the other two, in having an attached monitor. Plus changing the name to Mac, would make things a little interesting if they do come out with a mid-range tower, what would they call that?
iMac redesign? ~
Not sure when that redesign will be, as yeah, it hasn't had much of a design change, since a minor refresh, with a smaller enclosure awhile ago, but it wasn't a major change. We can only wonder when they are changing the design, but for them the iMac is working, even if some people are wanting an additional mid-range desktop... Maybe they are waiting for an update for Apple Cinema Displays to release a new Mac. However, it's pretty much any one of our guesses as to when it will redesign. I don't personally find the chin bad to look at, but I guess it could be done away with, but I think removing the chin, may make the imac even thicker, since they have to cram even more electronics behind the monitor.
My thinking is, each one of us has their own opinion as to how the computer will look at, some people like it, some people don't. There won't be a single consensus as to whether the design and look is perfect, it probably will never be perfect. If you don't like the look or like the look should that decide whether we go to pc or mac? Probably not, in fact I think that kind of thinking will hold apple back in the long run, as not everyone is buying computers for aesthetics. Maybe it's what's holding you back from getting the imac, is the looks or possibility of an upgrade, but .. as in the past, we can only guess, and well everyone's entitled their opinion of the chin or other aspects of the imac. Is it better than any of the other offerings of an all-in-one pc? Don't know, I haven't really ever looked at those machines, but I think apple's been one of the few who has ever been consistently successful with an all-in-one design. I wouldn't compare the iMac to just a regular LCD monitor, since they are different products, simply because the LCD monitor has less to cram into it versus the iMac.. I can only see it as an argument in favor of adding a mid-range mac tower to the product list. And just because you don't like the imac, doesn't mean you don't like macs ... But as much as we want desktop midrange towers, the market is going the other way, more and more people are starting to buy laptops, and that in itself may make Apple look the other way for a midrange tower, (though I don't remember the last time they've had one of those). Finally, what's with this if you don't like the design, or lke the design, go to pc, instead? People don't always buy apples for their design.. True, we pay a premium for the design, and part of the reason I bought my macbook pro was the design, but I personally like osx more than windows.
Anyways I think I've rambled enough. I think it's a little sad that this thread has become another battleground of people who like the imac look and those who don't and people are using pc's as a basis of comparison. It seems to me that there are people who are saying "why you comparing it to pc" or "if you don't like this, go to pc" kind of comments. *shrug* There are other products for people to buy, not just the imac. People buy macs for many different reason, design is just one of them, not the whole picture. Just my 5 cents worth
Nobody's arguing.... I am simply saying I don't like the iMac in it's current state. Not Macs per se. I have used Macs for 15 years in all of my jobs. You just don't seem to understand someone not wanting to part with £1000 on something ugly and seem to be trying to argue that it isn't ugly and that it shouldn't stop me anyway, which is by and large fruitless. Even on this thread, if you read back a lot of people are not fans of the big chin.
To put it another way, I could meet the nicest woman in the world, but if she had a huge disfigurement like a huge chin I would be put off. Come on, you can't tell me that would not put you off too?
I wouldn't buy a Ferrari either, even if it flew me to the moon - they are a little too cheesy and tacky for me. Give me an Aston Martin any day, now that is a proper car.
Fair enough. I just can't see the chin being that much of a factor. And you can't compare that to a HUGE disfigurement on a girl--maybe like a 6th toe or something...
And I agree Aston's are great cars. Saw a DB9 at a M-Benz dealership a couple of months ago. Really nice. Too bad the synchro-mesh trannys seem to be made of cheese. And, just for the record, even if Hyundai was behind the production of the Enzo, I'd buy it. AND it would spank the Aston around any track...which is a given for a car that cost 3x more. But I guess it does have a much bigger chin than the DB9/Vanquish, so I can see why you don't like it.
I also prefer the G4 iMac to the G5/intel iMacs; the G4 iMacs had personality, the G5 iMacs did not (although I do think they were still very good-looking). I understand the move was necessary, but I still hope that the next design will exhibit some of the quirkiness that helped establish the iMac in its earlier years.
We'll see what happens with the iPhone lawsuit. Apparently Cisco believes it paid Apple for the right for that name for within the U.S.
Home truths whether the current iMac appeals to your particular sense of aesthetics or not!
1/ It's an icon - one that you get to use everyday.
2/ If you don't own the current gen - you'll have eventually missed one!
3/ My biggest computing regret is not investing in the last two generations.
4/ Walter S. Mossberg says "We've been testing this new iMac, and our verdict is that it's the gold standard of desktop PCs. To put it simply: No desktop offered by Dell or Hewlett-Packard or Sony or Gateway can match the new iMac (G5's) combination of power, elegance, simplicity, ease of use, built-in software, stability and security". Well said!
5/ The future is all-in-one! The iPhone comes in one piece so then should the ultimate desktop computer.
6/Get one and love it!
1/ It's an icon - one that you get to use everyday.
2/ If you don't own the current gen - you'll have eventually missed one!
3/ My biggest computing regret is not investing in the last two generations.
4/ Walter S. Mossberg says "We've been testing this new iMac, and our verdict is that it's the gold standard of desktop PCs. To put it simply: No desktop offered by Dell or Hewlett-Packard or Sony or Gateway can match the new iMac (G5's) combination of power, elegance, simplicity, ease of use, built-in software, stability and security". Well said!
5/ The future is all-in-one! The iPhone comes in one piece so then should the ultimate desktop computer.
6/Get one and love it!
Touch screens
A touch screen ala iPhone is the next iteration for the Mac line- Maybe the almighty tablet- I'd love to see that- Yeah- It'll look similar to this a screen with a metal foot...but voila! it pops right off and you use it via airport all over dee houze, then the chin morphs mmajestically into an optional keyboard and Steve Jobs says they planned it as such all along- that's our easter egg actually- pop it off right now i am and watch now I'm *
A touch screen ala iPhone is the next iteration for the Mac line- Maybe the almighty tablet- I'd love to see that- Yeah- It'll look similar to this a screen with a metal foot...but voila! it pops right off and you use it via airport all over dee houze, then the chin morphs mmajestically into an optional keyboard and Steve Jobs says they planned it as such all along- that's our easter egg actually- pop it off right now i am and watch now I'm *