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When is the iMac going to get a new redesign?
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I am waiting till leopard comes out until i get my first imac, i am a student and therefore £700 is a hefty investment and i dont particularly want to see it outdated within a few months of me buying it.
However i dont particularly like that mock up design so i wouldnt be bothered anyway.
I will ask for advice about when the latest redeisgn is expected at my local mac store before buying to see if they have been given any indication to if it will be this year, if they did chance they design say in autumn, i may be persuaded to wait, or by a macbook.
However for apple i don't see how they can change the current mac design, ok smaller chin and thinner screen but that is it really. Its pretty much a laptop on a stand anyway. Plus its the biggest selling imac they have ever had, so why change?, its still drawing people from pc's, and there isnt any new technology to incorporate at the moment.
Add to the fact they are realsing ITV/Leopard/Apple Phone/Ilife 2007 - doesnt this seem like a lot anyway for this year??
I would love to get an imac, but keep getting put off by people talking about dead pixels, and changing design, i can handle a hardware change, but if the design changed within 3 months of me buying a mac i would feel pretty hacked off.
Anyway i have vowed to wait until leopard, and unless any serious rumours, or apple has announced a new mac/ or the apple store guys give me any hints i will be buying the imac then - does this seem a reasonable approach?
However i dont particularly like that mock up design so i wouldnt be bothered anyway.
I will ask for advice about when the latest redeisgn is expected at my local mac store before buying to see if they have been given any indication to if it will be this year, if they did chance they design say in autumn, i may be persuaded to wait, or by a macbook.
However for apple i don't see how they can change the current mac design, ok smaller chin and thinner screen but that is it really. Its pretty much a laptop on a stand anyway. Plus its the biggest selling imac they have ever had, so why change?, its still drawing people from pc's, and there isnt any new technology to incorporate at the moment.
Add to the fact they are realsing ITV/Leopard/Apple Phone/Ilife 2007 - doesnt this seem like a lot anyway for this year??
I would love to get an imac, but keep getting put off by people talking about dead pixels, and changing design, i can handle a hardware change, but if the design changed within 3 months of me buying a mac i would feel pretty hacked off.
Anyway i have vowed to wait until leopard, and unless any serious rumours, or apple has announced a new mac/ or the apple store guys give me any hints i will be buying the imac then - does this seem a reasonable approach?
If the employees at my Apple Store are any indication, they won't tell you anything about upcoming products at all until the new gadgets are in the back of the store. They claim they too are left in the dark until the last minute.
I might play the "poor little student" routine, make myself look really nervous about buying my first imac and see if they have heard any rumours what so ever
then if not i will buy one
So which design do you prefer? The G4 iMac or the G5/Intel iMac?
Personally, I loved the G4 design. If only it had a smaller footprint...
Personally, I loved the G4 design. If only it had a smaller footprint...
I like the current one better than the older ones, but that's not stopping me from waiting for a new form factor before buying one.
I personally think that the G5/Intel iMac is the best looking computer on the market (with maybe the exception of the Mac Mini) - I have no problems with the 'chin' at all. Don't think there's anything more sleek and sophisticated-looking that I'd rather have on my desk...oh and the added bonus that it has OS X!
Where are all the wires
A student at Michigan State or the Univ. of Mich., I forget. Came up with the concept and I believe the process for invisible circuitry and other micro stuff that will make HUD be the actual display device or a translucent monitor for a computer.
Heard about it on a radio advertisement for the Michigan State Development Corporation.
I've never liked the current "pizza box on a stick" iMac design. I'd love to see them bring back the lamp. It was truly a stunning piece of design. Yet it seems apple is scaling back their industrial designs lately and their current crop lacks a certain appeal that the g4 era stuff had.
if I were designing the next iMac...
They should release an "ultimate" edition 24" iMac that includes a quad-core chip, newer 8800gs graphics card, blu-ray burner/player (w/ or w/o hd-dvd), 500 GB HDD, and 2 GB RAM standard. Keep the fw800, fw 400, and usb ports, but also add a SATA interface. Throw in Leopard and ilife '07 and it might be a sweet beast. They could add a multi-touch screen if they fely so inclined. I'd say that computer would go for $3000-3500, without the touch screen, before taxes and applecare.
Anyone with me on this?
They should release an "ultimate" edition 24" iMac that includes a quad-core chip, newer 8800gs graphics card, blu-ray burner/player (w/ or w/o hd-dvd), 500 GB HDD, and 2 GB RAM standard. Keep the fw800, fw 400, and usb ports, but also add a SATA interface. Throw in Leopard and ilife '07 and it might be a sweet beast. They could add a multi-touch screen if they fely so inclined. I'd say that computer would go for $3000-3500, without the touch screen, before taxes and applecare.
Anyone with me on this?
What's wrong with the name "iMac"?
They could start replacing i with the Apple symbol now, like Apple TV, Apple Phone, Apple Mac - it looks like an i anyway.
well, the most minimalistic approach is to have the monitor become the pc. there's no other efficient way of doing it without turning the computer into two parts or have it have a larger footprint and size. the only problem is the chin. if it's chinless, it's very difficult to squeeze all of the components and still be able to cool it effectively.
solution? bigger monitors have more space, so bring out the 24 + chinless imacs. also, if possible, to be even more space efficient, have the leg sport some of the imac parts like a hd-dvd drive or hard disk.
THE ultimate imac revision would be replacable parts. imagine being to take out the hard drive, graphics card, and ram just by clicking and pulling out slots. although this is not really a design revolution, it will still have a tremendous effect.
the imac g4 was a stunning marvel and design. the problem is that it requires a lot of table space. apple has to sacrifice it's monitor flexibility so it can be even smaller.
solution? bigger monitors have more space, so bring out the 24 + chinless imacs. also, if possible, to be even more space efficient, have the leg sport some of the imac parts like a hd-dvd drive or hard disk.
THE ultimate imac revision would be replacable parts. imagine being to take out the hard drive, graphics card, and ram just by clicking and pulling out slots. although this is not really a design revolution, it will still have a tremendous effect.
the imac g4 was a stunning marvel and design. the problem is that it requires a lot of table space. apple has to sacrifice it's monitor flexibility so it can be even smaller.
Apple thinks of their computers (with the exception of the Mac Pro and XServe) as consumer electronics items. You don't go prodding about inside your VCR, DVD player, TV, toaster, ect. Apple follow the same concept with their Mac Mini and iMac. Notebook computers have always been much the same. Consider yourself lucky they even allow people access to any of the memory slots in their products.
Ant that is why there will never be a headless iMac, or a consumer machine that can be upgraded or modified with ease.
Apple just do not design their machine that way. See also iPod and iPhone - replacanle Battrey - Not included.
And they have a point. 99% of users should not be allowed anywhere near the innards of a computer.
I think the all new macs will be announced either late this or early next year. I just have a feeling that because the 24" is only a few months old, they will want to run this spec and give it at least one refresh (possibly April) with Leapard and the new chips. So I was thinking the new macs may be revealed at next years expo. Just a thought.
I just got a new iMac 20" intel core 2 and dont see this "chin" thing you are kvetching about so much!
Next to a Dell the iMac is the most beautiful computer going!
And it isnt all about form. Function in a Mac is just better than a MS PC!
The iMac is a lot thinner than I thought it would be before I got it home. The Dell is a pig of a big box and a monitor also. It has a fan like a jet engine turbine.
My iMac is nicely quiet, bright, and beautiful!
Next to a Dell the iMac is the most beautiful computer going!
And it isnt all about form. Function in a Mac is just better than a MS PC!
The iMac is a lot thinner than I thought it would be before I got it home. The Dell is a pig of a big box and a monitor also. It has a fan like a jet engine turbine.
My iMac is nicely quiet, bright, and beautiful!
My wife is sold on the 24" iMac. It is a beautiful machine. There are two problems with that format though:
1. We won't be able to upgrade the monitor and computer separately.
2. The iMac doesn't have a monitor input so that she can use it as a monitor for her Windows laptop computer.
And she's also figuring she will drop her subscription to RealArcade, even though she will have Parallels. (She will also buy Office - or I will as an university employee - so she probably won't need Parallels except for her games).
1. We won't be able to upgrade the monitor and computer separately.
2. The iMac doesn't have a monitor input so that she can use it as a monitor for her Windows laptop computer.
And she's also figuring she will drop her subscription to RealArcade, even though she will have Parallels. (She will also buy Office - or I will as an university employee - so she probably won't need Parallels except for her games).
The iMac seems like a great value all-in-one lifestyle computer to me, I love the design.
However, it's not for me. Lack of expansion options really puts me off. I would love to see Apple fill the gaping hole in their line up and introduce a computer that sits between the Mac Pro and the iMac. A 'Mac' that has no built in screen and lets the user upgrade components.
However, it's not for me. Lack of expansion options really puts me off. I would love to see Apple fill the gaping hole in their line up and introduce a computer that sits between the Mac Pro and the iMac. A 'Mac' that has no built in screen and lets the user upgrade components.
Yeah, me too. I looked at the maxed out Mac Mini, and with the Apple 23" monitor, it costs virtually as much as the iMac - but it was a lesser machine.
And it wasn't very expandable.
It did mean we could upgrade a monitor one year and a computer another year. But the only upgrade is the Mac Pro, and that's too expensive for her.
And it wasn't very expandable.
It did mean we could upgrade a monitor one year and a computer another year. But the only upgrade is the Mac Pro, and that's too expensive for her.
I bought my iMac G5 in 2005, and since I keep my computers for an average of 3 years, my next purchase should fall into the 1st half of 2008. (That should be 3 more revisions away).
That's when I plan to get the iMac with the following specifications (and hopefully with a redesign too):
20" Glossy Screen (1920 x 1200)
2.67Ghz Santa Rosa Processor
2GB DDR3 RAM
DX10 Capable Graphics Card
Blue-Ray / HD-DVD / or Hybrid Drive.
Am I dreaming, or am I being too conservative?
That's when I plan to get the iMac with the following specifications (and hopefully with a redesign too):
20" Glossy Screen (1920 x 1200)
2.67Ghz Santa Rosa Processor
2GB DDR3 RAM
DX10 Capable Graphics Card
Blue-Ray / HD-DVD / or Hybrid Drive.
Am I dreaming, or am I being too conservative?
FixedI bought my iMac G5 in 2005, and since I keep my computers for an average of 3 years, my next purchase should fall into the 1st half of 2008. (That should be 3 more revisions away).
That's when I plan to get the iMac with the following specifications (and hopefully with a redesign too):
20" Glossy Screen (1920 x 1200)
2.67Ghz Santa Rosa Processor
2GB DDR3 RAM
DX10 Capable Graphics Card
Blue-Ray / HD-DVD / or Hybrid Drive.
Am I dreaming, or am I being too conservative?
20" LCD Screen (1680 x 1050)
Socket P Intel 45nm Penryn Mobile (Possibly quad-core)
2 GB 800/1066 MHz DDR2 SO-DIMM RAM
Geforce Go 8300 GT
I can much more safely make these predictions...
I was hoping since Leopard is coming out in March with a completely Resolution Independent Interface, Apple might bump the resolution of ALL their computers.
Now this is where I think you are being too optimistic. Because, if internet rumours are to be believed, then Santa Rosa is slightly delayed till Q3 2007. And I don't see Apple jumping from Merom to Santa Rosa to Penryn in 2 revisions, (especially on the iMac).
This is where you've got me, as I don't really know anything much about RAM roadmaps.
Yes, it seems quite plausible that Apple might choose to go with a mobile GPU, but is the 8300 GT said to be a DX10 Graphics Card?
What about Blue-Ray and / HD-DVD?