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I can agree with all the concern for the 326 PPI on the Xr but something I’ve thought about is this: I bought my wife the 10.5 iPad Pro a few months ago and the screen is amazing to me and the PPI is 264. I’ve haven’t heard one person say anything bad about the IPP screen. I pre-ordered the Xs Max 256 silver and I’m starting to feel kinda dumb for spending $1,250... my justification is that I’m coming from a 2 year old 7 plus but that even that phone is still working flawlessly. I do like 3D Touch. The price has me wondering if I should return it.
Well some have suggested that large iPads are often used at a further viewing distance than an iPhone, so 264 ppi can be acceptable here. However, I wouldn’t be keen on a 264 ppi iPhone.
 
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This statement confirms you don’t fully understand the point of pixel density. At the same viewing distances it doesn’t matter if the phone is 3.5” or 4” or 5” or 6”. If they have the same pixel density, their sharpness will be the same.

If someone is satisfied with an 8, they will be satisfied with an XR.
There are also people who claim they can’t tell the difference between oled and lcd. Don’t make a blanket statement for all users.
 
There are also people who claim they can’t tell the difference between oled and lcd. Don’t make a blanket statement for all users.
Uh what?

That is a completely different statement and one I have not seen. I have not seen anyone say that OLED and LCD look exactly the same. They may say they don’t care much about the improvement from OLED but that’s different. Maybe a few people might have said that I suppose but they are few and far between.

Again, your post doesn’t make any logical sense. What people are trying to tell you is that 326 ppi means 326 ppi. Size doesn’t matter in this context unless it makes you change the viewing distance. And if anything the tendency with bigger screens is to move further away where lower ppi becomes more acceptable, like with 264 ppi iPads.
 
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I’m sure the love will appear once it’s actually released for pre order. I can see it being the most popular of the three as it is the new form factor and considerably cheaper. Average consumers won’t look into the differences in screen quality and the colour options will generate appeal.

I think last years models will also start selling well too just like the iPhone 7 did last year.
 
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Uh what?

That is a completely different statement and one I have not seen. I have not seen anyone say that OLED and LCD look exactly the same. They may say they don’t care much about the improvement from OLED but that’s different. Maybe a few people might have said that I suppose but they are few and far between.

Again, your post doesn’t make any logical sense. What people are trying to tell you is that 326 ppi means 326 ppi. Size doesn’t matter in this context unless it makes you change the viewing distance. And if anything the tendency with bigger screens is to move further away where lower ppi becomes more acceptable, like with 264 ppi iPads.
Let’s agree to disagree. The ppi on the XR is acceptable to you, and that’s all that matters. Regardless of how it all works, I feel like Apple cheaped out and dropped the ball, considering they hit a home run with both X models.
 
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It has the same ppi of an iPhone 4 but 2.6” bigger. Think about that for a second.
People don’t complain and Macs or iPads because of distance. Do you use an iPad as close to your face as a phone or Mac? No.
I wouldn’t have a problem with it if the screen was same as the plus models. But Apple has has this “phone tech” since 2010 on a 3.5” screen. Cutting corners is saying it nicely.
It’s hard to recommend this phone but I’ll hold judgment off till I see one in person.
 
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Uh what?

That is a completely different statement and one I have not seen. I have not seen anyone say that OLED and LCD look exactly the same. They may say they don’t care much about the improvement from OLED but that’s different. Maybe a few people might have said that I suppose but they are few and far between.

Again, your post doesn’t make any logical sense. What people are trying to tell you is that 326 ppi means 326 ppi. Size doesn’t matter in this context unless it makes you change the viewing distance. And if anything the tendency with bigger screens is to move further away where lower ppi becomes more acceptable, like with 264 ppi iPads.
It doesn’t matter to these people. All they see is spec and numbers, so higher is better for them. Who cares about the meaning behind those numbers. It’s a waste of time trying to speak logic to them. Let them spend more money on the Xs/Xs Max. Apple got them where it wants them. ;)
 
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Apple knows people are willing to sacrifice screen quality and other specs to save money. Look at how many people are still buying the MacBook Air.

There are 2 main groups of Apple consumers: those who will pay any price to get the latest and greatest, and those who will give up features to save money. You could argue both groups are getting gouged in some way.
 
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If it had the same thickness bezels as the XS then I’d seriously consider it. Aesthetically for me the front doesn’t look right with the bigger bezels.
 
Yep the XS does that already. 828p for a screen in 2018 is still disappointing, no 7nm processor can save it.

Yeah the xs does for 1k.

Does any other oem offer a 7nm processor or 3D facial biometrics? at any price point?

No guess it’s priced appropriately for what it can do.

Save it from what?

Apple has the best lcd screens on the market,
Ppi is only one metric your focusing on.
 
Yeah the xs does for 1k.

Does any other oem offer a 7nm processor or 3D facial biometrics? at any price point?

No guess it’s priced appropriately for what it can do.

Save it from what?

Apple has the best lcd screens on the market,
Ppi is only one metric your focusing on.
You are still paying more for a 828p screen and you are trying to find excuses to defend their practice, if you take the XR and the XS screen side by size you will notice a big difference in sharpness especially with pictures.
 
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You are still paying more for a 828p screen and you are trying to find excuses to defend their practice, if you take the XR and the XS screen side by size you will notice a big difference in sharpness especially with pictures.

Im actually getting an xs max so honestly could care less.

But focusing on only one metric of the display, there are others btw, and discounting the 7nm a12 and the 3D facial recognition which no other oem offers in their flagship devices let alone their midrange is quite baffling.

It’s priced accordingly.

None of them are even out yet and none of the reviewers who had a hands on said anything about the xr lack of sharpness like your claiming.

But hey you can only focus on the ppi, knock yourself out.
 
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It has the same ppi of an iPhone 4 but 2.6” bigger. Think about that for a second.

This had already been pointed out in this thread, but let's go through this again.

PPI is a size independent measurement. It doesn't matter if the screen is 1 inch or 100 inches. If they have the same PPI they have the same number of pixels for any given inch of the display. The total resolution must be much higher for the 100 inch screen for it to have the same PPI value as the 1 inch display.

The XR display will look exactly as sharp as the iPhone 8 display even though it's bigger. It also has higher resolution than the iPhone 8 to reach the same PPI value. Is more better? Sure to some point, but I don't think the iPhone 8 looks pixelated all. I have no concern going from my current 423 PPI phone to the XR.
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It’s a lower quality screen than a 7+.

No, it's a lower resolution screen than the plus models. From everything I have heard the quality is better
[doublepost=1537016805][/doublepost]I'm getting the XR. I'm not super excited about losing out on 3D touch and the telephoto camera, but the rest seems solid. Size wise I would have preferred a bit smaller physical size but it's going to work for me.
 
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Im actually getting an xs max so honestly could care less.

But focusing on only one metric of the display, there are others btw, and discounting the 7nm a12 and the 3D facial recognition which no other oem offers in their flagship devices let alone their midrange is quite baffling.

It’s priced accordingly.

None of them are even out yet and none of the reviewers who had a hands on said anything about the xr lack of sharpness like your claiming.

But hey you can only focus on the ppi, knock yourself out.
You are so defensive over something you know it's not right to sell on an expensive flagship in 2018 that you throw any argument to excuse the mess Apple did with the XR. We are talking about the screen not the A12 or 3D facial recognition.
 
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Im actually getting an xs max so honestly could care less.

But focusing on only one metric of the display, there are others btw, and discounting the 7nm a12 and the 3D facial recognition which no other oem offers in their flagship devices let alone their midrange is quite baffling.

It’s priced accordingly.

None of them are even out yet and none of the reviewers who had a hands on said anything about the xr lack of sharpness like your claiming.

But hey you can only focus on the ppi, knock yourself out.

Actually arstechnica said in their hands-on article that the difference is visible. But so far there is way too much speculation going on and non-information floating around. Every review presents the new colours in an absurd length while being unable to answer a few basic questions. I guess in the end it is just a matter of preference, which probably won't bother the masses. But there is no arguing around the fact, that the screen resolution is not state of the art for a phone in the high end segment of the market.
 
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Apple did this because they knew people would buy it regardless... the same as they knew even if the Max topped out at £1,500 people would buy it regardless. That’s all there is to it!
 
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You are so defensive


Again I’m getting an Xs max, nothing to be defensive about.


You are so defensive over something you know it's not right to sell on an expensive flagship in 2018 that you throw any argument to excuse the mess Apple did with the XR.

Xr isn’t a flagship, the xs max is.

Seriously next gen 3D facial biometrics and a 7nm processor is what you call a mess.

When no other oem even offers it on their flagship devices and Apple is offering it on their midrange device. Yeah your not making much sense there.

I’m sure Samsung would love what you call Apple’s mess.

We are talking about the screen not the A12 or 3D facial recognition.

No your talking about the price of the device in relation to only one metric of the display, ppi, disregarding every other feature the phone offers. Kinda weak to be honest.

But hey, if the facts don’t fit your narrative call out the other poster on being defensive, because facts don’t mean much to you. Weak indeed.
 
Actually arstechnica said in their hands-on article that the difference is visible. But so far there is way too much speculation going on and non-information floating around. Every review presents the new colours in an absurd length while being unable to answer a few basic questions. I guess in the end it is just a matter of preference, which probably won't bother the masses. But there is no arguing around the fact, that the screen resolution is not state of the art for phone in the high end segment of the market.

Reviews will be out and we will know more then.


But it’s a beast of device for its price.
Negating all other components and focusing one one metric of the display is pretty weak.
 
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