Was at my wife’s sister yesterday trying out her new 12.9” ( the Japan government gave her clinic money because of corona for on-line use, she had to use the funds NOW, so a 2020 model). It just seems so BiG, and holding it with one hand I found the left thumb at the edge and fingers across the back was just not as sure and stable, had to palm the whole back, and this just didn’t feel save either. In the lap, or on a table of course it is a nice big screen to work with, but… if I do end up with a 12.9” I see that I’m going to have trade offs in portability and how I use it. First choice is still the 11” for how I use the iPad, and wait and see if WWDC offers enough to make the ‘compromise’ of a 12.9” worth it.
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iPad Pro Which 2021 iPad Pro are you getting?
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Are you saying Best Buy has the 2021 12.9" iPad Pro on display? Or are you saying they had to 2020 version on display? I expect it to be the 2020, but your wording made it sound like you had the 2021 in hand and was able to feel the extra weight and etc.
2020 version of course, apologies if my wording was confusing? but i guess the increase in weight for 2021 version should be minimal so I’m going for 12.9”. It was pretty lighter than I’ve expected
The weight difference is like that between iPad 2 and 3/4 or between 2018 iPad Pro 12.9 (FaceID) and 2017 iPad Pro 12.9 (TouchID Home button).
Personally, it's noticeable but certainly not a dealbreaker. I still like the 10-11" class best, though.
That’s a double negative — so you’re saying that you hope the iPad makes the iPhone look bad! I wouldn’t worry about it — they will both look equally nice.I sure hope the new 12.9 screen doesn’t make my iPhone 12 Pro Max not look bad since it’s not mini led
11" iPad Pro Wi Fi only with 16GB RAM + 1TB SSD.
- 12.9" is ridiculously huge and heavy. no thanks! 11" is perfect for me. also, 12.9" is £250 more expensive. I'd rather use that towards more storage/RAM. for £999 you can get 12.9" 128GB or for £1,049 you can get 11" 512GB.
- Mini LED has too much blooming which is annoying/distracting. apple should have went OLED until Micro LED.
- I'm gonna be using the iPad in the house 99.9% of the time so don't really need cellular. If i'm out i'll just tether my iPhone. I'm also not gonna be paying a seperate data plan.
- my iPad will be replacing my PC so i want to get as much RAM as possible. 1TB is about right for me.
Mini LED is inferior to OLED so yeah you'll find the 12.9" screen will be worse than your 12 Pro Max.I sure hope the new 12.9 screen doesn’t make my iPhone 12 Pro Max not look bad since it’s not mini led
OLED - can turn off individual pixels for infinite contrast.
Mini LED - uses Local Array Dimming. the only difference is that there's a lot more LED backlights but these LEDs are still waaaaay to big to light up individual pixels. this causes "blooming".
say you are displaying this image on your iPad:
an OLED would be able to turn off all the pixels that are black and light up only the pixels showing stars. a Mini OLED would divide the image into thousands of small sections and light up the sections and not pixels. where the stars are the LED would light up but what you'll see (unless the star is just the right size) is that some of the black pixels surrounding stars will also light up too! this is the blooming effect. and not just that... if you're watching a video the LED controller needs to be really good to keep up with the video footage. if it's too slow then you will also notice a lag. say you're watching a video of stars in space then if the LEDs are too slow as the the star moves then the areas where the star was will remain lit up for a while.
videos showing this effect (skip to 0:53 if it doesn't start there) :
the screen on the left is using Local Array Dimming on an LED display and the TV on the right is an OLED. look at the blooming around the circle on the LED. while a mini LED will have more smaller LEDs it's basically the same technology and that's similar to what you'll see on your 12.9" iPad Pro. Apple should've went OLED.
Mini LED is inferior to OLED so yeah you'll find the 12.9" screen will be worse than your 12 Pro Max.
OLED - can turn off individual pixels for infinite contrast.
Mini LED - uses Local Array Dimming. the only difference is that there's a lot more LED backlights but these LEDs are still waaaaay to big to light up individual pixels. this causes "blooming".
say you are displaying this image on your iPad:
an OLED would be able to turn off all the pixels that are black and light up only the pixels showing stars. a Mini OLED would divide the image into thousands of small sections and light up the sections and not pixels. where the stars are the LED would light up but what you'll see (unless the star is just the right size) is that some of the black pixels surrounding stars will also light up too! this is the blooming effect. and not just that... if you're watching a video the LED controller needs to be really good to keep up with the video footage. if it's too slow then you will also notice a lag. say you're watching a video of stars in space then if the LEDs are too slow as the the star moves then the areas where the star was will remain lit up for a while.
videos showing this effect (skip to 0:53 if it doesn't start there) :
the screen on the left is using Local Array Dimming on an LED display and the TV on the right is an OLED. look at the blooming around the circle on the LED. while a mini LED will have more smaller LEDs it's basically the same technology and that's similar to what you'll see on your 12.9" iPad Pro. Apple should've went OLED.
I totally agree. I have had first hand experience with OLED tvs. I bought a Samsung qled tv and it offered horrible quality as compared to my 2 year old OELD tv. I returned it and got another OLED. lets see what happens with this miniled technology and with xdr display.
If you don’t mind me asking, what do you use the various iPads for? Do you have specific uses for each one?
I pre-ordered the 12.9 256GB model, and plan to keep my 10.5 Pro 256GB model to see if I want to use it still or find a use for it. My wife just got the iPad Air 4, still has her Mini 5 too, and our toddler has a Mini 3 for her little games and video streaming apps for trips and things.
There's a thread for that.
Already bought the Air 4. Alternating between that and the Pro 10.5 until OSHA lifts the face mask requirement or I find a good discount on the 2021 Pro 11.
But, I’m looking at the picture above on my 6th generation iPad and it looks nice and clear with great contrast and no discernible bleeding. Are you saying mini-LED is going to look worse?Mini LED is inferior to OLED so yeah you'll find the 12.9" screen will be worse than your 12 Pro Max.
OLED - can turn off individual pixels for infinite contrast.
Mini LED - uses Local Array Dimming. the only difference is that there's a lot more LED backlights but these LEDs are still waaaaay to big to light up individual pixels. this causes "blooming".
say you are displaying this image on your iPad:
an OLED would be able to turn off all the pixels that are black and light up only the pixels showing stars. a Mini OLED would divide the image into thousands of small sections and light up the sections and not pixels. where the stars are the LED would light up but what you'll see (unless the star is just the right size) is that some of the black pixels surrounding stars will also light up too! this is the blooming effect. and not just that... if you're watching a video the LED controller needs to be really good to keep up with the video footage. if it's too slow then you will also notice a lag. say you're watching a video of stars in space then if the LEDs are too slow as the the star moves then the areas where the star was will remain lit up for a while.
videos showing this effect (skip to 0:53 if it doesn't start there) :
the screen on the left is using Local Array Dimming on an LED display and the TV on the right is an OLED. look at the blooming around the circle on the LED. while a mini LED will have more smaller LEDs it's basically the same technology and that's similar to what you'll see on your 12.9" iPad Pro. Apple should've went OLED.
As much as I would love that new Xdr display of the 12.9. My iPad is going to spend most of its life in and out of my large lunch bag for work. The portability aspect is more important and generally will be used as my away from home computer. Mostly for browsing, Netflix and some gaming.
hoping the 11” will make the perfect fit with the 5g
hoping the 11” will make the perfect fit with the 5g
Well I’ve officially put my order in for the 11” pro 128gb cellular model. This will be my first iPad Pro! Should be here by early June. Can’t wait!
Been borrowing my kids iPad Air 3 for the last couple months after my base model broke but he has to return his school iPad in a month so what better excuse to finally upgrade myself lol
Been borrowing my kids iPad Air 3 for the last couple months after my base model broke but he has to return his school iPad in a month so what better excuse to finally upgrade myself lol
I have been making do with a hand-me-done iPad mini 4 64 LTE, and a hand-me-down iPhone 7 128gb.
After wanting an iPad Pro since 2018 when gen 3 came out, I placed an order on the first day of ordering for the new one. Grey 12.9 2TB 5G.
After wanting an iPad Pro since 2018 when gen 3 came out, I placed an order on the first day of ordering for the new one. Grey 12.9 2TB 5G.
say you are displaying this image on your iPad:
an OLED would be able to turn off all the pixels that are black and light up only the pixels showing stars. a Mini OLED would divide the image into thousands of small sections and light up the sections and not pixels. where the stars are the LED would light up but what you'll see (unless the star is just the right size) is that some of the black pixels surrounding stars will also light up too! this is the blooming effect. and not just that... if you're watching a video the LED controller needs to be really good to keep up with the video footage. if it's too slow then you will also notice a lag. say you're watching a video of stars in space then if the LEDs are too slow as the the star moves then the areas where the star was will remain lit up for a while.
While you are correct that OLED is superior a exact precision lighting, LCD has advantages too. Also, I think people are forgetting that the iPad has over 2,500 dimming zones in a relatively small 12.9" screen; that is a massive feat. While yes, there will be blooming, whether it is noticeable in use is still in question. People are comparing it to the Pro Display XDR or mini LED TVs that have drastically fewer zones in a MUCH larger display. It won't be OLED-level, but it has a very good chance of being outstanding nonetheless.
Either way, I have 14 days from the date I get my iPad to use I and compare it to my 10.5". If the screen isn't drastically better then I will return it for the much more sensibly priced and sized 11" iPad Pro.
2,500+ dimming zones are better than 576 dimming zones on the Pro Display XDR but blooming will likely still be noticeable compared to per pixel dimming like on OLED. It'll probably be closer to the XM310K in this comparison.
My guess is the pic will look the same on new iPad. Keep in mind only hdr content will look better on this. It’s still same res, same 8 bit screen.
But take an iPhone 12 Pro Max. It’s 10 bit. More colors. True blacks. If you’re going to advertise “extreme” hdr then this is it. Not the iPad Pro.
All content on oled benefits. On the iPad Pro it’s hdr video and perhaps hdr pics. The latter is aimed at editing hdr. For overall iPad experience most consumers will be much more impressed with an oled iPad. Most likely apple will use Super Retina to market the rumored oled iPad Air.
Personally I don’t watch much hdr content on 12.9 iPad. It’s mostly comics, PDFs, etc and I wouldn’t expect any difference whatsoever due to “xdr screen”. It makes more sense to wait and see if air does get oled.
The air would get XDR after the 11 Pro gets it. The first to get OLED would be the Pros mainly the 12.9.
I read it correctly. The picture looks great on my 6th-generation iPad. It’s only going to be better on mini-LED. How much better can it get?
I went for 12.9 256Gb WiFi model in silver, which should serve me well as my AIO, with a bit of storage upgrade over base model. And if it turns out that I want the 16GB model, then I'd rather sell this one at a "slight" loss rather than be stuck with much more expensive device that I'm not happy with because selling 1TB at a huge loss would be no-go for me.
My only question being battery life, but time and personal usage of mine will tell, was rather happy with my 10.5's battery life.
If I knew that the battery life will be close to M1 MBA(I know, rather unrealistic wish), even if just a tiny bit, then I might re-order and get myself 16GB.
Yet, knowing that I won't likely utilize raw power of 16GB(at least judging by how well MBA/MBP run with 8GB of RAM with full-fledged macOS) I'd rather save lots of money to put towards updated design Macbooks in coming year.
I also believe that around the time when I might get the upgrade itch, there will certainly be IMHO more drool-worthy iPP with 16GB for the money at that time, so, in a sense, I feel that 16GB/1TB would total overkill for me at the moment.
IF there was a model with 16GB/256Gb combo like with Macbooks, then I would certainly get one, IMHO that would be very good price-performance combo.
That's my reasoning for getting exactly this modification.
My only question being battery life, but time and personal usage of mine will tell, was rather happy with my 10.5's battery life.
If I knew that the battery life will be close to M1 MBA(I know, rather unrealistic wish), even if just a tiny bit, then I might re-order and get myself 16GB.
Yet, knowing that I won't likely utilize raw power of 16GB(at least judging by how well MBA/MBP run with 8GB of RAM with full-fledged macOS) I'd rather save lots of money to put towards updated design Macbooks in coming year.
I also believe that around the time when I might get the upgrade itch, there will certainly be IMHO more drool-worthy iPP with 16GB for the money at that time, so, in a sense, I feel that 16GB/1TB would total overkill for me at the moment.
IF there was a model with 16GB/256Gb combo like with Macbooks, then I would certainly get one, IMHO that would be very good price-performance combo.
That's my reasoning for getting exactly this modification.
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Took my new iPad WiFi out for the fist time this morning to test it out. Went to my local Costa. WiFi was poor but usable.
I then tethered to my iPhone and WOW! Super fast. Got 150 Mbps and everything lightening fast. This “test” has put my mind at rest about getting WiFi only. I’ve always got Cellular in the past but for the (very few) times I am away from home I’m sure using my iPhone’s unlimited data will be fine.
I then tethered to my iPhone and WOW! Super fast. Got 150 Mbps and everything lightening fast. This “test” has put my mind at rest about getting WiFi only. I’ve always got Cellular in the past but for the (very few) times I am away from home I’m sure using my iPhone’s unlimited data will be fine.
What‘s the extra cost to your cellular plan to include tethering? If it’s already built into your plan I guess you’d have to see what a plan without it costs to be able to tell.