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Which TV Series Are You Binging On?
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“When I left you, I was but the learner, now I am the master” still holds true… he left Obi-Wan as a padawan, and now he’s pretty much the most powerful force user around, at that time.
House. Only do 2-3 a night and only. if I’m up all night after chemo (steroids keep me up as expected, better nights 2 and 3)
The Old Man. Jeff Bridges. I didn't expect it to be particularly good, but I'm enjoying it very much. This series is just beginning, only two episodes so far.
Exactly!
Everyone wanted to see another Vader v Kenobi encounter in this series. But both have to survive due to the Original Trilogy.
I thought it teed up the encounter in A New Hope rather well. Vader has now lost twice. By that stage he's older as well. It sets up a more cagey lightsaber duel on the Death Star, one without the ridiculous and pointless twirling flourishes.
As for the Kenobi series as a whole. I think episode 6 finished it off well. The point about the Darth name that I mentioned previously was addressed. I liked that. It felt like they did that just for me
.I'd have liked a longer series, but I can understand why they limited it to 6 episodes. The Book of Boba Fett went on for too long and struggled.
Like @rhett7660 I thought the best Star Wars series so far, was the Mandalorian. In many ways, though it's an easier series to write. There were no expectations at the start, and it used almost exclusively new characters, save for a few significant cameos towards the end (which they did brilliantly).
What that show wasn't able to do was satisfy Star Wars fans desire to see more of the characters they value the most, including what they did before and after the events of the movies. This is principally what fans (customers to Lucasfilm / Disney) want.
The challenge for anyone doing a story with characters like Boba Fett or Obi-Wan Kenobi is being true to the original trilogy (and prequel films), without jeopardising the sequels (although this is something I am less worried about).
The Book of Boba Fett, is in many ways a great example of the problems writers face.
He's a very popular character. Lots of people know who he is and want to know more about him.
1st question. What's the starting point? What do they have to work with?
Starting with the Original Trilogy, Boba Fett has almost no dialogue and only a few minutes of screen time. However, he has become a fan favourite and a much loved character. Lots of potential scope without jeopardising canon.
Next question, what does a series about Boba Fett need to include?
It needs to include how he escaped from the Sarlaac Pit. It also needs to deal with his transformation into the character he's perceived to be. It can't be just him going around collecting bounties as a bounty hunter. The Mandalorian had covered that ground and it gets stale very quickly.
So, these are the stories they tried to tell in that show, and as we saw, it struggled badly.
The escape from the Sarlaac Pit was spread out over a series of flashbacks, as was his transformation / rehabilitation with the Tusken tribe. Both story arcs had limited tension as we all knew where it was going and how it had to end up. There weren't any credible challenges for the main character to overcome that we could care about along that journey. He was going to live. He was going to become a better person as a result.
The other story arc was his take over of Jabba's palace and crime empire. This was hamstrung by the characters rehabilitation / transformation into a good guy popular culture required him to become. This ended up with him being a crime lord ... that didn't do crime. I suspect this was further hamstrung by the franchises desire/need to sell toys.
That last part was a terrible writing choice, but there it is.
But the end result was that the series struggled all the way through.
Turning back to Kenobi. You can't do anything after a New Hope as his character has been killed off. What you do have are the intervening years.
What does canon say about those years? It begins with the jedi being hunted down, so he can't be as well known / high profile as he was at the end of Revenge of the Sith. The Empire still exists. He was thought dead or forgotten in a New Hope. After Vader tells Tarkin he's sensed Kenobi's presence on the Death Star, Tarkin is dismissive, saying the jedi's light has gone from the universe.
That's the framework you have to comply with, and in the show Kenobi, they did.
What else can they do, consistent with canon? In a New Hope, Obi-Wan does mention "going off on some damn-fool crusade". I'd like to see where they go with that, next.
But they will still need to deal with the framework. Anyone expecting Kenobi to kill Vader (or vice versa) hasn't been paying attention to Star Wars (and especially the movie the started it all, later renamed Episode IV, a New Hope).
As for Kathleen Kennedy, much has been written about her by Star Wars fans ever since The Last Jedi. I looked her up on Wikipedia. She does have a very impressive history in film making going back many years, but I don't think her contributions to Star Wars have been positive ones.
I would also like the reins to be handed over to Favreau, Filoni. I think Timothy Zahn's contributions have been great too.
No we didn't. This is a prime example of what is wrong with newer offerings in SW.
The Mandalorian was just ok. But still better then the latest offerings in the Star Wars universe and a great attempt to be creative. But for a bounty hunter he seemed pretty timid. And the whole Baby Yoda fell flat at the end.
That series needed to be cut by 2 epiodes as it was a slow slog.
Obi before he was a jedi or leading up him becoming a jedi, would have been my bet. Not just re-hashing more of the same stuff, and diluting two great characters and the story as it was.
You got any ideas or do you keep defending this non-sense they keep shovelling out?
Just finished the Netflix original series Man vs. Bee starring Rowan Atkinson. It was great seeing him on screen after all these years; and the supporting cast is very good too.
Are you sure? Maybe you're just reading it wrong and he absolutely LOVES IT!
Awww someone has butthurt.... thought this was an open discussion... move along if you can't contribute
Just finished watching the seventh season of Bosch, and started Bosch: Legacy.
Really enjoyed Bosch, and it looks like Legacy is going to be worth watching.
Really enjoyed Bosch, and it looks like Legacy is going to be worth watching.
The 4400 (2004)
I watched this when it first aired in 2004 on USA Network, and really liked it, but missed the third and forth season.
It is on Netflix right now, and decided to watch it. Great TV Show, highly recommend. Pretty much still holds up almost 20 years later, and was fun to watch.
This was Mahershala Ali's first big starting role.
After watching the show I did some research, and there was plans to bring it back for a 5th season and beyond, but a writer strike ended up leading to its cancellation. Season 4 does have a satisfying ending, but there was always a lot more story left if the show continued.
There has been fan and cast led efforts to bring the show back for a 5th season ever since the show was cancelled, even going so far as the cast making teaser videos for what to expect if the show came back.
A few years ago, CW announced a reboot of the show, not a 5th season with the original cast. The new 4400 show came out recently and was cancelled almost as quickly due to low ratings, and basically being a turd compared to the original 2004 show.
There is still hope from fans that The 4400 might get a 5th season, although at this point, I doubt it will happen.
It is worth a watch, especially if you like sci-fi dramas. If you like Manifest, I see a lot of story elements in Manifest that was borrowed from The 4400.
I watched this when it first aired in 2004 on USA Network, and really liked it, but missed the third and forth season.
It is on Netflix right now, and decided to watch it. Great TV Show, highly recommend. Pretty much still holds up almost 20 years later, and was fun to watch.
This was Mahershala Ali's first big starting role.
After watching the show I did some research, and there was plans to bring it back for a 5th season and beyond, but a writer strike ended up leading to its cancellation. Season 4 does have a satisfying ending, but there was always a lot more story left if the show continued.
There has been fan and cast led efforts to bring the show back for a 5th season ever since the show was cancelled, even going so far as the cast making teaser videos for what to expect if the show came back.
A few years ago, CW announced a reboot of the show, not a 5th season with the original cast. The new 4400 show came out recently and was cancelled almost as quickly due to low ratings, and basically being a turd compared to the original 2004 show.
There is still hope from fans that The 4400 might get a 5th season, although at this point, I doubt it will happen.
It is worth a watch, especially if you like sci-fi dramas. If you like Manifest, I see a lot of story elements in Manifest that was borrowed from The 4400.
Finished Doom Patrol season 2. Excellent. Started season 3 and somehow I have the feeling this was meant to be one single, long season. Will hopefully finish it tomorrow.
It's an excellent show. I watched it when it aired originally and I think once since then a few years ago. I have it on my rewatch list.
That new show was absolute garbage. Some genius writer had the idea to use BLM for the show and make every 4400 a victim of racial discrimination in addition to their power and make this a political show above anything else.
That's not going to happen and that's a good thing. I mean, I would have watched a 5th season up to maybe 5 years after season 4 aired but at this point they're all way too old to continue the story. Especially since season 4 ends on a cliffhanger in the way that the 4400 move out into the world.
I just watched the latest episode of The Boys, best episode of the Serie! What a show. I love HOMELANDER in front of the mirror.
I loved this and would like to watch it again. Is it available anywhere to watch in the UK?
Will I get blasted for rewatching The Ranch?
I've recently discovered Love, Death & Robots and can't believe I didn't catch onto it earlier!
I've recently discovered Love, Death & Robots and can't believe I didn't catch onto it earlier!
I gotta disagree with your statement about Vader being "the most powerful force user around, at that time." Obi Wan beat him twice (according to the new stuff Disney put out). I would also put out the argument that Yoda would make quick work of him if Obi Wan was able to do it twice.