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JT2002TJ

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TMY can tow... 6x12 Aluminum Utility Trailer (with 3500 lbs axles)

I only towed it to the trailer shop, I'm having trailer brakes added. It seems that most long range people towing say they get about 100-150 miles range when towing. I haven't been able to test this yet.





The FSDb software thinks my trailer is a car right up behind me...

 

Apple fanboy

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TMY can tow... 6x12 Aluminum Utility Trailer (with 3500 lbs axles)

I only towed it to the trailer shop, I'm having trailer brakes added. It seems that most long range people towing say they get about 100-150 miles range when towing. I haven't been able to test this yet.





The FSDb software thinks my trailer is a car right up behind me...

That’s a big trailer. Reminds me of when reversing sensors were a new thing. A colleague had just had a tow bar fitted to his car. I had to move it (the car park there was a nightmare. If you were first in you would get blocked in).
It was beeping so much I’m thinking there is nothing behind me. I was paranoid I would hit something!
 
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JT2002TJ

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That’s a big trailer.

I have a long motorcycle, its 9.5 feet long. So my options were 6x10 or 6x12. I got it before the pandemic and the price difference was maybe $150 between the 10' vs 12' versions. I was pulling it behind a Ram pickup, so I never even noticed it behind the truck (yet alone saw it in the mirrors).

Even though it is a big trailer, it weights 760 lbs empty, so it is light weight. It replaced a 4x8 steel trailer that weight more...

Since I bought it, it has doubled in value...

Reminds me of when reversing sensors were a new thing. A colleague had just had a tow bar fitted to his car. I had to move it (the car park there was a nightmare. If you were first in you would get blocked in).
It was beeping so much I’m thinking there is nothing behind me. I was paranoid I would hit something!

HAHAHAHA

I will say that it didn't beep because of the backup sensors, so that was good. But they need to find a way to replace the rendering of a car on my a$$ with a trailer, or just ignore it all together. The whole time I was driving I kept looking at the screen wondering who was the (you know what) who was following me so closely!! Turns out it was me, I'm the you know what...
 
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maflynn

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Interesting video regarding Ford's issues with EVs

I don't follow the EV market terribly close, but I do remember when Ford announced the the F150 Electric was starting at a price of 40,000 (give or take). They've since jacked up the price 5 times (as per the video). And now just announced a price cut. I think a high number of those pre-orders started cancelling their orders as Ford started and continued to jack up the price.

 

diamond.g

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Mar 20, 2007
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Interesting video regarding Ford's issues with EVs

I don't follow the EV market terribly close, but I do remember when Ford announced the the F150 Electric was starting at a price of 40,000 (give or take). They've since jacked up the price 5 times (as per the video). And now just announced a price cut. I think a high number of those pre-orders started cancelling their orders as Ford started and continued to jack up the price.

IMO, part of the issue (in the states) is that (US) dealerships don't have to honor the MSRP, and if folks won't buy the vehicles the dealership won't order them (or they sit on the lot).
 
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daneoni

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I'm gonna hold out with ICE for as long as possible. I don't want the complexity of thinking about charging with my journeys.

And i enjoy the sound of ICE
 
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Apple fanboy

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I'm gonna hold out with ICE for as long as possible. I don't want the complexity of thinking about charging with my journeys.

And i enjoy the sound of ICE
Each to their own. It really isn’t that complex. The car works out a lot of the stuff for you. 95% of charging is done whilst you are sat at home or in bed. It really can’t get any easier than that.

As for the sound, I prefer the quiet running of an EV over the noise of an engine.
 

BigMcGuire

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Each to their own. It really isn’t that complex. The car works out a lot of the stuff for you. 95% of charging is done whilst you are sat at home or in bed. It really can’t get any easier than that.

As for the sound, I prefer the quiet running of an EV over the noise of an engine.
I love being able to turn on my AC with my garage closed without causing an issue where the air becomes unbreathable.

Recently, a good friend of mine took me on a road trip with his BMW M3 (2008?) and while it was nice, spending almost $140 to fill the tank (for the trip (2 stops)) was a bit of a shocker.

But I don't miss the sound of an ICE. I don't miss getting gas every few days. I don't miss the $300 oil changes (I couldn't fit under the car without ramps and the oil pan shield was impossible to remove even with a hammer/wrench). I don't miss the 8 second 0-60.

What I do miss about my ICE (Honda Civic EX)? The 415 mile range - but I almost never utilized it.
 

Apple fanboy

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I love being able to turn on my AC with my garage closed without causing an issue where the air becomes unbreathable.

Recently, a good friend of mine took me on a road trip with his BMW M3 (2008?) and while it was nice, spending almost $140 to fill the tank (for the trip (2 stops)) was a bit of a shocker.

But I don't miss the sound of an ICE. I don't miss getting gas every few days. I don't miss the $300 oil changes (I couldn't fit under the car without ramps and the oil pan shield was impossible to remove even with a hammer/wrench). I don't miss the 8 second 0-60.

What I do miss about my ICE (Honda Civic EX)? The 415 mile range - but I almost never utilized it.
That’s the thing isn’t it. Would I prefer my EV to have a 400 mile range? Of course. But it’s really not that much of an inconvenience given how often I drive further than my range.
I certainly don’t miss the annual trips to the dealership for the service. Every two years works for me!
 

Apple fanboy

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We went full electric. I have a 2018 Tesla Model S, and my wife has a 2019 Tesla Model 3. Will most likely stick with electric when it’s time to purchase the next car. Looking forward to what’s coming from other auto manufacturers now that (most) the US will be adopting the Tesla standard chargers.
Very few people I read choose to go back to ICE vehicles once they have an EV. That really tells anyone who is on the fence all they need to know.
 

JT2002TJ

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I still want a fun car like the Supra but my wife says I might as well just get another Model 3

These ICE sports cars are fun, but when you walk over from your EV to a Supra and it is loud and slow, it makes it not so fun.

After going full EV, the only way I think I would get another ICE is if it was a historic car... Modern ICE sports cars just don't do it for me anymore (after the EV switch).
 

BigMcGuire

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These ICE sports cars are fun, but when you walk over from your EV to a Supra and it is loud and slow, it makes it not so fun.

After going full EV, the only way I think I would get another ICE is if it was a historic car... Modern ICE sports cars just don't do it for me anymore (after the EV switch).
Recently going on a road trip with my friend's BMW M3 - that car felt slow on takeoffs (but it was fun for the road trip). Which is amazing because I spent the last 6 years driving Civics (7-8 second 0-60?) before our Tesla Model 3 LR AWD with performance boost. lol.

When we took our Model 3 on a road trip, going up / down the grapevine - we were passing everyone without trying. So nice vs a Civic where on an uphill, you floor it, and nothing really happens. :p
 

Apple fanboy

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I still want a fun car like the Supra but my wife says I might as well just get another Model 3
I think my i3 is the most fun car I’ve ever owned. Quick acceleration and low centre of gravity makes it handle nicely when you want it. But mostly I drive in eco mode which is still quicker than most ICE cars without even trying.
 

jz0309

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I'm gonna hold out with ICE for as long as possible. I don't want the complexity of thinking about charging with my journeys.

And i enjoy the sound of ICE
that is fine ... reality is, when you get an EV you have to start thinking differently on how to "fill up", that's a change in the mental model. When I did my first longer trip in mine, I did a whole lot more thinking how I am going to manage that, after that, it's easy and it becomes just as routine as driving an ICE.
And, for most people, home charging is all you need 95+% of the time ...
 

jz0309

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I love being able to turn on my AC with my garage closed without causing an issue where the air becomes unbreathable.

Recently, a good friend of mine took me on a road trip with his BMW M3 (2008?) and while it was nice, spending almost $140 to fill the tank (for the trip (2 stops)) was a bit of a shocker.

But I don't miss the sound of an ICE. I don't miss getting gas every few days. I don't miss the $300 oil changes (I couldn't fit under the car without ramps and the oil pan shield was impossible to remove even with a hammer/wrench). I don't miss the 8 second 0-60.

What I do miss about my ICE (Honda Civic EX)? The 415 mile range - but I almost never utilized it.
I had a 500+ mile range in my Prius Prime - don't miss that ;)
and I definitely do not miss the weekly trips to the gas station and that lovely smell ;)
 
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jerryk

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That’s the thing isn’t it. Would I prefer my EV to have a 400 mile range? Of course. But it’s really not that much of an inconvenience given how often I drive further than my range.
I certainly don’t miss the annual trips to the dealership for the service. Every two years works for me!
As I age I do not have a 400 mile (or 300 mile) bladder any more. So the 340 mile range of my X is more just in case I run into a snow storm and I am going over a 9,000 foot pass in the mountains.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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These ICE sports cars are fun, but when you walk over from your EV to a Supra and it is loud and slow, it makes it not so fun.

After going full EV, the only way I think I would get another ICE is if it was a historic car... Modern ICE sports cars just don't do it for me anymore (after the EV switch).

You soon get over the fastness of an EV off the line but they’ll never compete with an ICE sports car for sound and being a lifelong motorsports fan, I totally get the thrill of a loud and powerful engine. I will miss it once everyone goes electric and the fact our kids will never know what it’s like to learn to drive a manual car with driving tests getting so much easier, that’s a scary thought.

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maflynn

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One of the biggest negatives regarding the electric car imo, is the charging speed. There are times, where I drive distances that would require me to go to a gas station and fill my tank up to continue. That takes no more then 2 to 3 minutes, where as an EV, I'm looking at 20 to 40 minutes.
 

Apple fanboy

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One of the biggest negatives regarding the electric car imo, is the charging speed. There are times, where I drive distances that would require me to go to a gas station and fill my tank up to continue. That takes no more then 2 to 3 minutes, where as an EV, I'm looking at 20 to 40 minutes.
True. But at least you aren’t adding to global warming so that has to count for something? And if you take a comfort break and grab a Starbucks you’ll be mostly charged anyway.
 

jz0309

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One of the biggest negatives regarding the electric car imo, is the charging speed. There are times, where I drive distances that would require me to go to a gas station and fill my tank up to continue. That takes no more then 2 to 3 minutes, where as an EV, I'm looking at 20 to 40 minutes.
Yes, today EV charging does take longer but it is getting better.
We are still early in the EV evolution, 20 or so years ago filling up your ICE took way longer than 2-3 minutes, and was messier than it is today…
 
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