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BigMcGuire said:
Owner of a 2018 M3 LR. I don't think this has been posted yet?

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Tesla battery longevity not affected by frequent Supercharging, study says

Tesla battery degradation is not accelerated by frequent Supercharging, which was previously thought, according to an extensive new study. It...
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Update: Scientists Reveal how EV Fast Charging Impacts Battery Health

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I can count on both hands and feet the # of people who have told me my battery would be dead before I hit 100k miles. We've got almost 80k miles on our Tesla and it has barely lost 10 miles on the range since we got it last year with 30k miles on it. With what we owe on this thing... (yay 2022 - not a good year for buying cars) - we'll be driving it till it stops moving. And I'm very ok with that. Best car we've ever owned.

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Stats are fairly accurate because I have my local utility plugged into the app so it knows how much my electricity costs at all times of the day. We're also lucky because work and other is free.
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So happy to hear this and squash all those naysayers that keep yelling that fast charging EVs are bad.

I am very happy with my past 3 EVs.
Fast charge mine every week.

By the time capacity gets to under 70%, it will be over 300,000 miles which I never keep a vehicle past 50,000 miles...
 
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Apple fanboy said:
I wonder what % of the population that is? Meanwhile for those of us who don't live there, EV's are perfectly viable.

Always goes straight to the edge case with EV's doesn't it?
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sure if you own a little shopping cart and live in a city/town and don't leave it
 
Surfsalot said:
sure if you own a little shopping cart and live in a city/town and don't leave it
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Nope. Easy enough to drive from city to city. Or off into the countryside, or do 99% what ICE drivers do.
Well apart from pump out harmful emissions of course! We can’t do that so well!
The times are changing. Time to move with them.
 
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Apple fanboy said:
Nope. Easy enough to drive from city to city. Or off into the countryside, or do 99% what ICE drivers do.
Well apart from pump out harmful emissions of course! We can’t do that so well!
The times are changing. Time to move with them.
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Can you tow a 20ft van?
 
Surfsalot said:
sure if you own a little shopping cart and live in a city/town and don't leave it
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Nonsense, I've driven across 9 different countries with an EV. No problem at all when you elect the right government with the right policies and the supporting infrastructure is there. Didn't take any longer than a similar trip with an ICE based vehicle.

I regularly go via the UK, through the north of France, through the whole of Belgium, to the Netherlands.
 
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I drove to Devon on Friday from South Wales, 157 miles of mostly motorway and our Q4 had 51% battery left. I stayed in an apartment that came with free charging too. It certainly put my range anxiety to bed. I did cane it on the way back though and used 70% but the Audi app is pretty good at predicting range.
 
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The-Real-Deal82 said:
I drove to Devon on Friday from South Wales, 157 miles of mostly motorway and our Q4 had 51% battery left. I stayed in an apartment that came with free charging too. It certainly put my range anxiety to bed. I did cane it on the way back though and used 70% but the Audi app is pretty good at predicting range.
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Nice. I've been at several hotels, villas, where charging was free. Never had a free tank of petrol at overnight accommodation.
 
cyb3rdud3 said:
Nonsense, I've driven across 9 different countries with an EV. No problem at all when you elect the right government with the right policies and the supporting infrastructure is there. Didn't take any longer than a similar trip with an ICE based vehicle.

I regularly go via the UK, through the north of France, through the whole of Belgium, to the Netherlands.
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I drive 10.5 hours straight in a working day regularly, 1000k's. If I had a EV would take me 2 and a stay overnight lol.
 
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Apple fanboy said:
With the right EV sure. But I’ve never towed anything in my life and I’ve been driving for longer than most MR members have been alive.

Like I said earlier. Always straight to the edge cases. What % of car journeys involve towing? Not many from what I see.
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you wouldn't get far towing a van, not everyone drives a mini around town
 
The-Real-Deal82 said:
Hopefully the Aussie car manufacturers are working on a solution for you. If not, you’ll be driving petroleum powered cars well after the rest of us and paying extortionate amounts to fill your vans and utes up.
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Will be awhile, no cars made here anymore lol, my vehicle and costs are a tax right off.
 
The-Real-Deal82 said:
I drove to Devon on Friday from South Wales, 157 miles of mostly motorway and our Q4 had 51% battery left. I stayed in an apartment that came with free charging too. It certainly put my range anxiety to bed. I did cane it on the way back though and used 70% but the Audi app is pretty good at predicting range.
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Going off that, doing 110 k's on the M1 I would be 3/4 of the way to my old mans place, 500k's which I do in one go, I would have to drive 15 mins off the motorway and hang around/wait to fill up, so would take me way over 6 instead of 5 hours,
Now I can turn around and almost make it back on 1 tank.

That's not a crazy-fringe use case for people here.
 
Surfsalot said:
Going off that, doing 110 k's on the M1 I would be 3/4 of the way to my old mans place, 500k's which I do in one go, I would have to drive 15 mins off the motorway and hang around/wait to fill up, so would take me way over 6 instead of 5 hours,
Now I can turn around and almost make it back on 1 tank.

That's not a crazy-fringe use case for people here.
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Nobody disputes that EV's have less range than an ICE vehicle. I can do between 550 and 600 miles on a full tank of diesel in my Audi A4, but it costs me £95 ($185 AUD) to fill up. Our Q4 may need a charge every 290 miles, but the same distance would cost me £18 to charge ($35 AUD). It costs me £9 per charge at the moment on our Octopus Energy tariff. There are pro's and con's of each and technology is getting better all the time. There is already talk of EV's with 600 mile ranges in the next 3 years which would solve even the fringe cases.
 
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The-Real-Deal82 said:
Nobody disputes that EV's have less range than an ICE vehicle. I can do between 550 and 600 miles on a full tank of diesel in my Audi A4, but it costs me £95 ($185 AUD) to fill up. Our Q4 may need a charge every 290 miles, but the same distance would cost me £18 to charge ($35 AUD). It costs me £9 per charge at the moment on our Octopus Energy tariff. There are pro's and con's of each and technology is getting better all the time. There is already talk of EV's with 600 mile ranges in the next 3 years which would solve even the fringe cases.
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Wow $185 would be around $120 here atm.
Ev’s are just not affordable here anyway no matter the cost of fuel, nothing under $50k unless you want some crap from you know where.
The only ones I see in my area are Tesla’s from Sydney or Brisbane, a base model is $60K.
Over there an Audi is the run of the mill car here they are a luxury vehicle.
No one I know drives a euro car, closest to a ev in my family/friends is a Corolla hybrid my sister owns Lol.
Gonna be a loooong time for that to change here.
 
So my Mrs has a 2 year old Suzuki swift, great little car runs on the smell of an oily rag, was $23KAUD new.
only used for shopping rare trip 100ks or so.
Why would anyone get rid of that and spend $60k on a EV Now or in the future.
Show me how long the payback is? 7,000 kms a year.
 
Surfsalot said:
Wow $185 would be around $120 here atm.
Ev’s are just not affordable here anyway no matter the cost of fuel, nothing under $50k unless you want some crap from you know where.
The only ones I see in my area are Tesla’s from Sydney or Brisbane, a base model is $60K.
Over there an Audi is the run of the mill car here they are a luxury vehicle.
No one I know drives a euro car, closest to a ev in my family/friends is a Corolla hybrid my sister owns Lol.
Gonna be a loooong time for that to change here.
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That would make sense I suppose as you're on the otherside of the World and Asian car brands are going to be more popular there. British roads are mostly made up of Fords, BMW's, Mercedes, Audi, Vauxhall, Peugeot/Citroen as the most common, with Toyota and Mazda having a lesser pressence. One brand that seems to have faded here is Subaru as these were very common in the 90's. Exporting European cars to Australia would mean their costs would rise significantly and be less desirable as a result. Tesla, Volvo, Polestar and BMW are manufacturing EV's in China now, so perhaps you'll have more options soon.
 
Surfsalot said:
So my Mrs has a 2 year old Suzuki swift, great little car runs on the smell of a oily rag, $25KAUD,
only used for shopping rare trip 100ks or so.
Why would anyone get rid of that and spend $60k on a EV Now or in the future.
Show me how long the payback is? 7,000 kms a year.
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You wouldn't spend $60k on an EV for that purpose. You'd opt for a Nissan Leaf, Renault Zoe or pick up a secondhand 2017 Tesla Model 3 for $35K if you wanted something slightly better. Unless Australia is like Europe where ICE cars are starting to be financially forced out of cities, or with fuel prices increasing, just keep it as long as you can. I don't plan on getting rid of my A4 in the near future because its done just less than 40k miles and does 55mpg.
 
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