Absolutely. Lots of them. And schemes were the council will dig a channel from your house to the street with a cover so you can plug in. That’s a good solution for many terraced houses.
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As far as point "c". The iphone in 2007 wasn't really a new idea. Cell phones previously existed, touch screens previously existed, wifi previously existed..it's just that the way it was put together was innovative. You may have not liked the iphone in 2007 and maybe denied it was innovative, but it was insanely popular.
Same with Cybertruck, it's the total package. It's Tesla giving away it's 48v designs. The Cybertruck will advance the state of pickup EVs.
EVs (even though I have one, haven't had really cold weather -- not like alaskamoose), do take a hit in cold weather. I suppose if you are discussing south of -15F it's cold. A model 3 with the heat pump will really suffer from what I gather from other youtube videos. It's hard to scavage any heat from the air at those temps and the cabin will take a long time to heat up.
Taking another example, a Rivian (at least some models) who have a resistive pack for heat and a bigger battery will suffer far less. Of course you have to spend north of $90K to get that model in comparison to many ICE cars, with a heater block option, could do more than okay in extreme cold at a fraction of the cost.
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Yeah exactly, same option we have and it helps with range too to pre condition the battery. I had a shock the other week thinking our car lost 70 miles of range when in fact it hadn’t, it was just the prediction was way off. Nice to have a heat pump to help in cold and hot conditions.
??? Which boroughs are you talking about? In many boroughs, it is the other way around, when you are charging there is no parking charge, but you must be plugged in and actively charging. For example, Hammersmith and Fulham. When you get closer to the centre of town it is incredibly favourable, like just £1.46 an hour in Westminster. That is an absolutely bargain.People who live in or close to central London are likely to make smaller journeys, which are perfect for an EV. However, these people rarely have off-street parking and don't commute to work by car (as they don't have parking there, either), so where can the car be left to charge?
Someone I know lives on the outskirts of London and has just bought an EV and can charge at home on his drive. Another friend wants a new car and are thinking hybrid (which I don't recommend/like) as they have nowhere to charge it at home.
Yes, London has on-street charging points but if you leave the car there longer than an hour or so, the parking charges are very high (assuming you're not towed). So I don't think large cities are prepared yet. What's needed is cabling along the road/pavement so people can park on-street and charge. However, if loads of cars charge at the same time then the cabling won't be able to handle it.
I don't know what the solution is. Which is fine, as no one will ask me for one
44% of households in London do actually have off-road parking. Furthermore, the grid isn't an issue either, heck you can get an energy tariff that pays you to use it during certain times
And many smart low hours per day.What would be smarter in my opinion, is to not have a car in London when you don't actually use it, nor need it to commute. Just join a ride share scheme.
I can't wait for the day that houses limit the number of cars per house hold (or actually kadaster registration) to just one unless there is offroad parking, and ban taking home commercial vehicles all together. It would make for a much more pleasant environment and better flowing city.
Yes, there are 18,396 EV charging points in London
Other than the most central one, they don't have parking charges either. And more and more are being installed.
No idea what the article is about as I won’t click on it. But EV’s are the fastest growing car market. They are here to stay.
Petrol and diesel not so much.
We were talking about the propaganda bandwagon oil and gas companies are funding through social media to spread fear about battery failures on this very thread the other day. That article is hilarious, thanks for sharing.
If I ever own an EV and the battery fails and I am faced with a £30k bill, that car is being reported stolen and i’ll set fire to it on waste ground lol. The insurance company can pick that one up. Thankfully battery failures on EV’s are rare and it’s a non-issue.
are you sure about that?
i used to own a honda insight hybrid.
awesome little car but the battery failed within 3 years.
fortunately, honda honoured the warranty and replaced it FOC.
i breathed a heavy sigh of relief at the time.
as David pointed out, the insurance premiums on these things - tesla et al - are through the roof compared to a regular car …
Early hybrids lacked the battery thermal maintenance of modern EVs. This is the difference between batteries lasting.
They are not the same.
My insurance on my TM3/Y each are $50 more per month than the ICE vehicles they replaced (2008 Audi A4, 2015 Ram 1500 Hemi). It is much more to do with the age/value of the vehicle than ICE/EV for my policy.
Hybrid systems in California have had 8years/100k miles warranty for decades. Look at Prius, plenty out there that had 200k+ miles with original battery.
EVs have 8 years/100k warranty on battery.
As for insurance, for my Bolt EUV it went up <5% from a 5.5 year old Prius Prime. Insurance rates vary a lot and you can not generalize them …
Our PHEV has a 10 year HV warranty which is 2 years more than other states.
My BEV has a 8 year HV warranty which is a great peace of mind...
The cleanest version possible would be to not own or drive any automobile, but who would not want one?
It is true that an EV does not emit fumes like an ICE vehicle does, but before Tesla's and other EVs arrived to the market, most automobiles had internal combustion engines. A few years ago there weren't EV's other than golf cars , forklifts, lift platforms, and so on.
Also, I lot of people want or need ICE automobiles for various reasons. For example, where I live at having an electric ATV, UTV, or automobile, would be a terrible waste of money, because of the extreme cold temperatures of winter.
ICE automobiles can be stolen when the key is left in the ignition switch, but I can start any of the vehicles my wife and I drive with a remote. In this case the engine is idling, but without a key the engine stops idling as soon one touches the brake pedal to place the shifter on drive (D). Nobody loves the smell of fuel burning
Also, carbon monoxide is odorless, and deadly if inhaled for a certain period of time.
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Investors only care about profit. The same people who invest in the oil companies also invest in the EV market. The reports about batteries, engines, and all kinds of failures of both EVs and ICE automobiles are drivers or owners. A lot of drivers making these reports are found at the vehicle user forums, youtube, and so on. it makes no sense to report something that if not the truth can result in great litigation in court. Also, vehicle manufacturers publish vehicle recalls because vehicle systems malfunctions that could result in injury or death, or even if some of the components don't meet their manufacturer's warranty.
However, I don't know if other countries around the world have these recalls.
I’m afraid you are very out of touch. Recently a car park at a UK airport burned down. Many vehicles (all types) were destroyed. Of course the fire brigade investigated and the culprit was found to be an ICE vehicle. Note I’m not saying all ice vehicles are fire risks or whatever, just these things happen. But naturally there were many posts and articles stating it was an EV that started the fire.
This is just typical. There has been a noticeable anti EV movement that is clearly matching someone’s agenda. It doesn’t take an expert who benefits from these stories.
Of course false stories generate online interest. Both support and denial. Either is fine with the publisher. It is getting them further up the Google rankings.
It’s so obvious that there are more anti EV stories that many UK sites have commented on it.
I find any car related article online what discusses EV’s and invites comments has so many commenters repeating these myths, so it’s working to some degree. Quite often the accounts behind some of the comments are suspicious too with a wolf/mystical profile picture or something that shows no signs of being a genuine person etc. I think companies try to infiltrate these platforms to make sure the fear of EV’s appears at a consumer level.
We should consider ourselves lucky. We haven’t had to take out a mortgage to charge our car, waited in 2 week long queues at services, had our houses burn down from charging, been left stranded in the middle of nowhere, had a £30k bill for a new battery, had the wheels fall off under acceleration, or whatever other horror story that is used.
Funny isn’t it? How lucky every EV owner I know has been compared to all those common issues? It’s almost as if these things are all made up!
You often find whenever someone is sceptical or fiercely against something, they are the ones who personally know all the people who have had problems, side effects, you name it. They are the ones who know and are the only ones who have worked it all out lol.
My cousin has a 2015 Tesla model S. He’s had some issues, nothing major and still had the original battery from new. That apparently is impossible.
Just saw this for the first time. It made me giggle but also a bit close to the truth. My wife has the EV, I’m taking the Range Rover and are off to drive back to the Netherlands tomorrow morning. Filling up costs me €231 😔
LOL My wife is betting I’ll come back with an EV one of these trips.
LOL My wife is betting I’ll come back with an EV one of these trips.
I am in the process of looking for a new vehicle and I test drove a Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe saturday and I loved it. (I am a jeep girl).
My dad is pushing for me to go electric but I live in an Luxury Condominium so i have no idea if an EV would even really truly be worth it.
My dad is pushing for me to go electric but I live in an Luxury Condominium so i have no idea if an EV would even really truly be worth it.
My buddy has one of these. They are real nice. He only has level 1 charging (110V 20 amp) so he doesn’t fully take advantage of the battery. Even with that, he gets great gas mileage.
He has all the tech options.
I figure if I MUST get a new car payment, I might as well get a car i want and I do enjoy the fact that it is a hybrid. The wrangler hybrids were nice too but omg 65K is insane lol. Tha's like 20K more than I paid for my last jeep 6 years ago haha
Yeah, you should! I used to have a wrangler, back when they used to be less electronic/expensive. I had a “TJ” (2002).
I do like all the features in his Cherokee, he does say that my FSD (I have full self driving beta) is way better at staying in the lanes and following than his. But he has night vision and some other things that my TM3/Y lack.
IDK how much i trust FSD lol. I am nervous about relying on that.
My very first Jeep when i was 15 was my dad's old YJ (1991) that lasted me for 5 years then I got a TJ (2004) that lasted me 3 years and my most recent was a 2017 but i hit a deer during the holidays so it's totaled lol.
Our family only drives jeeps. Dont ask me why lol. It's just what we drive :
I have actually never driven another vehicle except once that was a jeep and that was to move a friends car lol