Of course that will change in the years to come, it is a natural progression of technology that will make EVs more efficient and cheaper to make. I will say though I expected the progression to be quicker, maybe that's just my perspective.
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Yea, in part it is going against “big oil” which is a huge hurdle to overcome as it’s a trillion $ business and the other part is that EV charging infrastructure is still not adequate and I say that as a resident of California.
The biz around cars (fuel, service etc) is well over 100 years old and it’s changing with EVs, that takes time…
Blatant lies and fearmongering. I don't know if you actually bought into that or if you're trolling, but either way, all of that is either untrue or exaggerated. I see some people have an emotional attachment to outdated and polluting technology, which makes them irrational. Do better.
Why wait? Plenty of choices out there now. Waiting just continues to wreck the planet. There were 500 different options in 2022. Significantly more than that now. Surly something in all of those that suits your purposes?
Couldn’t agree more. The truth is out there. I see a lot more ICE cars pulled over on the hard shoulder than I do EV’s. Actually I don’t think I’ve ever seen an EV on the roadside. (And yes I appreciate there are a lot less of them, but still the way some articles talk about it it’s a wonder any of us can get south road for all the broken EV’s!).
The oil companies are doing an amazing propaganda job.
and you need "nice designs" and many models for that?
Small transit vans there are choices. In big cities like London where traffic is terrible EV deliveries are getting quite common. No ULEZ or congestion charges. On long haul there is still plenty to do agreed.
Actually, I have a small prototype style design, but I don't know how logical it would be, and it would also cost more. I have a high performance small design with zero emissions.
There is no problem in terms of traffic. I live in Turkey. There is no traffic congestion outside of Istanbul. Since I don't live in Istanbul, I don't have to worry about traffic. We do wholesale goods, we have a 2008 model 315 CDI Sprinter, but it is very old. There are many injector problems. Actually, I also looked at the electricity. The first thing that caught my eye was the eSprinter. But its range is 150 km. Don't you think it's too low?
a quick google search shows the below, that's over 400km ...
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I think you have incorrect information. Even in Germany, versions with a range of 150 and 120 km are sold.
Where did you get that from ?
Are you an oil company shareholder or employee ??
My current 2 newer EVs have been the most reliable from day 1.
Never had an issue, no warranty claims, lowest cost of ownership, and never had problems with range.
OTOH my ICE vehicles, albeit being older, have way more issues and TCO is much higher due to maintenance costs.
Electric cars have very soft, rounded designs. And it never looks good to the eye. Let's see if I can get a patent, I will introduce my own engine design.
The Cybertruck is "soft and rounded"?
Depends on the car. Just like any other car.
Engine? I wouldn't bother. Last century technology!
EV's come in all shapes and sizes. Really think you are looking for excuses to discredit EV's. Same old, same old.
Haters are going to hate and keep spreading their lies.
Meanwhile those of us who actually own them are enjoying using them without the issues non EV owners write about.
I love free miles each and every week. Can't imagine going to buy petrol anymore.
Lol. Good example! About as soft as a sledgehammer!
Soft & rounded ?
Don't know where you are getting that from...
Mine's athletic, shaped and ready for an agressive drive:
Is Tesla the only electric car brand in the world? I wouldn't use Tesla as toilet paper either. The W124 chassis Mercedes E-Class gives a very close friction coefficient to Tesla's. But one is completely blunt design, the other is round. Isn't that ridiculous?
I'm working on an air powered engine. Small air compressors like a traditional moto block, carbon fiber lightweight material pistons, 2000 PSI spark plugs. As you step on the gas, the compressors will increase the pressure, that compressed air will push the pistons, which will rotate the crankshaft, and the increased air will be re-exhaled from the exhaust as atmospheric air through a mechanism that can be opened and closed. Doesn't that make sense?
Obviously ICE cars on the road can be 10-15-20 years old easily while EVs have not been around for that long so you would indeed not expect many broken down EVs. Moreover, after the four year lease on a new EV is over, at least in The Netherlands, a lot of them are exported to the east, leaving mostly new models on the road (nice for us, not sure about the planet as a whole though).
I found some actual statistics to support my assumptions, haven't made it into a complete study. We are seeing a lot of first gen new cars from ground up new platforms and new brands, you would expect some issues on reliability. Not that this can't all be solved in a matter of time, I'm not against EVs at all. I'm sure propaganda exists, but this seems logical to me. Just my two cents.
Not to me. Electric motor connected to a battery makes 100% sense.
To be fair, "big oil" investors also invest in EV technology. Investors care for profit, regardless of where it comes from. Some EV manufacturers are sponsored by oil industries, even BP invest in electrification. By the way, I am not defending "big oil." All you have to do is to look into the investing market. The more arguments about EV versus ICE automobiles by the consumers, the more investing opportunities that arise.
Cancer cases will explode in 20 years. The reason is high batteries.
In addition, the damage produced by the battery of an electric car is the same as that of a fuel car in 1 year.
The statistics don't stack up with my experience. Or that of any of my EV driving friends and colleagues. The only issue I have heard of was with an MG4 that stopped fast charging. Fixed under warranty for free.
But I know a lot of EV drivers who have had zero issues.