I've seen a lot of EVs on the roads and in tow trucks. Almost all of them were either burned or stranded on the road.
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🤣🤣🤣 Even an electrically assisted bicycle would be an improvement. Enjoy the bus. 👍
I haven’t watched it. But going by the title that is the M60. That would like saying the M5 isn’t an eco cruiser which it isn’t and isn’t meant to be. There are other more efficient versions.
I think it’s great to see more EVs in that class as previously there was the TMS, then the Mercedes EQE, and now the i5. And soon the Audi A6 will join as well.
I prefer an SUV, very interested in a Porsche Macan or Lotus Eletre. But these big powerful saloon cars are very popular on mainland Europe.
330,000 vehicles were surveyed but you still want to exclusively take the experiences of your own friends and colleagues. I am sorry but that to me has no value in this discussion.
To illustrate, my friend his early MY Mustang Mach E has been in the shop 7 times with very expensive (warranty) replacements of I believe something related to the converter. That has no statistical meaning, but you could endlessly come up with new anecdotes until either one of us gives up. Maybe it vaguely looks like a discussion but it leads nowhere.
Look, I understand you are having a great time in your EV, but one thing that stands out to me about this thread is the wide variety of experiences in the various regions of the world. If you live in the UK, The Netherlands or Norway it is easy to forget that we do not represent even a significant percentage of the world population, let alone the state of electric mobility. Long way to go to "save the planet", though it seems to me we're on the right road.
Not all comments are exclusive to it being the M60 though, the video itself is worth a watch.
Lotus Eletre seems to have been reviewed poorly based on car channels that I follow. And again it is an regretfully an overweight inefficient car that to me seems to defeat the purposes of electric drive trains and sustainability. But maybe that is just my taste in cars. I have seen Eletre in real life and it does look striking.
Until a proper station wagon / estate launches in here in Canada I wont even consider an EV. I dont like the height or the floppy, squishy ride of SUVs - I hate it when I need to sign out a vehicle at work and they only have Highlanders or Explorers left - and I'm speaking as someone who learned to drive on a Silverado 3500HD.
I personally have the impression that EVs wont last anywhere near as long, or be anywhere near as user serviceable as traditional cars. My Subaru is 18 years old now and nothing has ever mechanically failed on it with just the routine maintenance schedule - the majority of which I can perform myself. When the head unit or climate control interfaces died they didnt have any adverse effects on any other functions, and I was easily able to replace them on my own at minimal expense (I was also able to repair the parts I removed and have them aside as spares). I highly doubt the same could be said for one of those ridiculous touchscreens in a Tesla that does everything.
I personally have the impression that EVs wont last anywhere near as long, or be anywhere near as user serviceable as traditional cars. My Subaru is 18 years old now and nothing has ever mechanically failed on it with just the routine maintenance schedule - the majority of which I can perform myself. When the head unit or climate control interfaces died they didnt have any adverse effects on any other functions, and I was easily able to replace them on my own at minimal expense (I was also able to repair the parts I removed and have them aside as spares). I highly doubt the same could be said for one of those ridiculous touchscreens in a Tesla that does everything.
Yes we all like different things. I just buy what I like. Sustainability, vegan interiors, safe the planet doesn’t come into it. Yes low weight cars can be fun to throw about, but aren’t that comfortable when you do longer journeys and tiring. I like the instant torque, don’t like turbo lag, like supercharger but let’s face it those times are as good as gone. In that segment it’s all about EV.
Is the lotus a lotus? Nope. It’s it a good EV, hell yes. 800v architecture, great charging curve, pretty awesome handling in that class, and incredible value for money.
That's wrong, not to mention insane. Batteries do not cause cancer, and EVs cause significantly less environmental damage, especially over the long run.
No you haven't.
Why? There's nothing inherent about EVs that would make that true. There are fewer parts, so less to service. Batteries already last a long time, and battery technology continues to advance.
Please provide sources or are you making all this up?
Same has been said about all things wireless, no proof, no data - FUD, nothing else
Wow, haven’t been around the last couple of weeks and this thread seems to have gotten an injection of absurdity. EV’s catching fire all over apparently and batteries causing cancer, I’ve heard it all now and I thought some of the comments I see across social media was wild.
No problems charging our EV in this cold weather and giving good range. No fires or new batteries needed this week either.
No problems charging our EV in this cold weather and giving good range. No fires or new batteries needed this week either.
No you must be mistaken. Surly the people without EV’s know better than the people with the EV’s?
I can't hear you over both my Teslas burning down my entire block, which was really surprising because I ran out of battery before I could even get home.
Must have been too cold to use them. Couldn’t you burn one to precondition the other one?
Pretty pointless doing that though. The roads are so full of broken down EV’s either run out of juice or burning uncontrollably, they are gridlocked. 😀😀😀
Well you say that, but wasn’t the strongest windspeed across the globe recorded in the UK yesterday? I bet the EVs are to blame for that. 🤣
An estate / wagon type car launched in 2012 in Canada
The Tesla Model S sounds like it would be in your sweet spot - hatchback, more traditional instrumentation than the Model 3. I appreciate Subarus and they are definitely more cost effective transportation. But if you get a chance to drive an older Model S, try it with an open mind - I love mine (drive it more often than the 300ZX manual in the garage, and the Titan pickup...)Floppy, squishy ride of SUVs. Dude, you've never driven a proper was my first thought. But then confirmed if you are used to Highlanders or Explorers. LOL, You should try a Range Rover SVR with active dynamic suspension. It will put most ordinary station wagons to shame; bar perhaps an Audi RS6 Avant or BMW M5 Touring.
And on that note; VW Do a shooting brake Passat. Then Audi is releasing their A6 Avant estate this year, and BMW their i5 Touring. And naturally, Mercedes will be doing their EQE Shooting Brake stationwagon as well. Or if you fancy something cheaper; the Kia EV9 is likely a pretty excellent choice as well.
EV cars are even easier to be serviceable
An EV drivetrain is pretty simple, just different kind of engine. Steering, suspension, brakes are all just the same.Don't forget that a touch screen is just that a touch screen, just got an LVDS connector to display, another to get the inputs, and just like with traditional knobs, the modules are separate. It really isn't different beyond the presentation.
hilarious post on LinkedIn:
I'm thinking of replacing my electric car with a fossil fuel car and have some questions:
1. I have heard that petrol cars cannot refuel at home while you sleep. How often do you have to refill elsewhere? Will there be a solution for re-fueling at home?
2. Which parts will I need to service and how often? The salesman mentioned oil in the engine and timing belts that need replacing and a box with gears in it. What is this? How much will this service cost and how often - and what happens to the old oil?
3. Apparently these petrol type cars stop on the brakes alone - so the brakes wear out much faster - how long will they last compared to my current car which lasts over 500.000 kilometers. In a petrol or diesel car, do I get fuel back when I slow down or drive downhill?
4. The car I test drove seemed to have a delay from the time I pressed the accelerator until it began to accelerate. Is that normal in petrol cars?
5. Is it true that petrol is flammable? That petrol and diesel is so dangerous, that you can only buy the fuel at a special filling station, and not anywhere (hotels/car parks/home/work)?
6. I understand the main ingredient in petrol is oil. Is it true that the extraction and refining of oil causes environmental problems as well as conflicts and major wars that over the last 100 years have cost millions of lives?
7. I have also been told that you have to transport oil all over the world to turn into petrol or diesel, and these ships have in the past damaged the environment by leaking the oil. Is that true?
8. I have been told that these internal combustion engines make a noise when you start them - so early starts can wake people up, and driving a lot of internal combustion engine cars in towns makes towns noisy?
9. Is it true people can steal the fuel from your tank?
If I can get all of the above answered and it turns out there are no downsides to owning a petrol car, I may have to consider buying one!
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I'm thinking of replacing my electric car with a fossil fuel car and have some questions:
1. I have heard that petrol cars cannot refuel at home while you sleep. How often do you have to refill elsewhere? Will there be a solution for re-fueling at home?
2. Which parts will I need to service and how often? The salesman mentioned oil in the engine and timing belts that need replacing and a box with gears in it. What is this? How much will this service cost and how often - and what happens to the old oil?
3. Apparently these petrol type cars stop on the brakes alone - so the brakes wear out much faster - how long will they last compared to my current car which lasts over 500.000 kilometers. In a petrol or diesel car, do I get fuel back when I slow down or drive downhill?
4. The car I test drove seemed to have a delay from the time I pressed the accelerator until it began to accelerate. Is that normal in petrol cars?
5. Is it true that petrol is flammable? That petrol and diesel is so dangerous, that you can only buy the fuel at a special filling station, and not anywhere (hotels/car parks/home/work)?
6. I understand the main ingredient in petrol is oil. Is it true that the extraction and refining of oil causes environmental problems as well as conflicts and major wars that over the last 100 years have cost millions of lives?
7. I have also been told that you have to transport oil all over the world to turn into petrol or diesel, and these ships have in the past damaged the environment by leaking the oil. Is that true?
8. I have been told that these internal combustion engines make a noise when you start them - so early starts can wake people up, and driving a lot of internal combustion engine cars in towns makes towns noisy?
9. Is it true people can steal the fuel from your tank?
If I can get all of the above answered and it turns out there are no downsides to owning a petrol car, I may have to consider buying one!
Zygmunt Strawczynski on LinkedIn: Yes, frigid weather may reduce your EV battery range. Here's how to… | 351 comments
I'm thinking of replacing my electric car with a fossil fuel car and have some questions: 1. I have heard that petrol cars cannot refuel at home while you… | 351 comments on LinkedIn
That’s funny.hilarious post on LinkedIn:
I'm thinking of replacing my electric car with a fossil fuel car and have some questions:
1. I have heard that petrol cars cannot refuel at home while you sleep. How often do you have to refill elsewhere? Will there be a solution for re-fueling at home?
2. Which parts will I need to service and how often? The salesman mentioned oil in the engine and timing belts that need replacing and a box with gears in it. What is this? How much will this service cost and how often - and what happens to the old oil?
3. Apparently these petrol type cars stop on the brakes alone - so the brakes wear out much faster - how long will they last compared to my current car which lasts over 500.000 kilometers. In a petrol or diesel car, do I get fuel back when I slow down or drive downhill?
4. The car I test drove seemed to have a delay from the time I pressed the accelerator until it began to accelerate. Is that normal in petrol cars?
5. Is it true that petrol is flammable? That petrol and diesel is so dangerous, that you can only buy the fuel at a special filling station, and not anywhere (hotels/car parks/home/work)?
6. I understand the main ingredient in petrol is oil. Is it true that the extraction and refining of oil causes environmental problems as well as conflicts and major wars that over the last 100 years have cost millions of lives?
7. I have also been told that you have to transport oil all over the world to turn into petrol or diesel, and these ships have in the past damaged the environment by leaking the oil. Is that true?
8. I have been told that these internal combustion engines make a noise when you start them - so early starts can wake people up, and driving a lot of internal combustion engine cars in towns makes towns noisy?
9. Is it true people can steal the fuel from your tank?
If I can get all of the above answered and it turns out there are no downsides to owning a petrol car, I may have to consider buying one!
Zygmunt Strawczynski on LinkedIn: Yes, frigid weather may reduce your EV battery range. Here's how to… | 351 comments
I'm thinking of replacing my electric car with a fossil fuel car and have some questions: 1. I have heard that petrol cars cannot refuel at home while you… | 351 comments on LinkedIn
😅 Thanks for posting that onehilarious post on LinkedIn:
I'm thinking of replacing my electric car with a fossil fuel car and have some questions:
1. I have heard that petrol cars cannot refuel at home while you sleep. How often do you have to refill elsewhere? Will there be a solution for re-fueling at home?
2. Which parts will I need to service and how often? The salesman mentioned oil in the engine and timing belts that need replacing and a box with gears in it. What is this? How much will this service cost and how often - and what happens to the old oil?
3. Apparently these petrol type cars stop on the brakes alone - so the brakes wear out much faster - how long will they last compared to my current car which lasts over 500.000 kilometers. In a petrol or diesel car, do I get fuel back when I slow down or drive downhill?
4. The car I test drove seemed to have a delay from the time I pressed the accelerator until it began to accelerate. Is that normal in petrol cars?
5. Is it true that petrol is flammable? That petrol and diesel is so dangerous, that you can only buy the fuel at a special filling station, and not anywhere (hotels/car parks/home/work)?
6. I understand the main ingredient in petrol is oil. Is it true that the extraction and refining of oil causes environmental problems as well as conflicts and major wars that over the last 100 years have cost millions of lives?
7. I have also been told that you have to transport oil all over the world to turn into petrol or diesel, and these ships have in the past damaged the environment by leaking the oil. Is that true?
8. I have been told that these internal combustion engines make a noise when you start them - so early starts can wake people up, and driving a lot of internal combustion engine cars in towns makes towns noisy?
9. Is it true people can steal the fuel from your tank?
If I can get all of the above answered and it turns out there are no downsides to owning a petrol car, I may have to consider buying one!
Zygmunt Strawczynski on LinkedIn: Yes, frigid weather may reduce your EV battery range. Here's how to… | 351 comments
I'm thinking of replacing my electric car with a fossil fuel car and have some questions: 1. I have heard that petrol cars cannot refuel at home while you… | 351 comments on LinkedIn
Just touching base, no £20k battery failures this week, car hasn’t caught fire or caught fire and taken my house with it. The wife hasn’t been stranded by the side of the road after running out of range on her trip to Maidenhead this week and didn’t have to queue for any public chargers. It’s all good still with an EV, no horror stories to report yet. Charged overnight and cost £4.36 at £0.07 per kW.
That can't possibly be right. I'm reliably informed by fossil trolls that there's a 100% chance your car got stranded while queueing for a public charger, and then while being towed to a £20K battery replacement it caught fire and burned down the tow truck.
I understand people have different needs, but I do not think the average person needs a lot more range that a lot of EVs have now. My TM3 LR 2019 gives me roughly 400-450km, and maybe 350 on a cold winters day. I honestly haven't been bothered to check.
Most road trips we do are in the 3 hours range, either down the coast in summer or to the mountains in the winter (250-300km). So I seldom have to charge other than at home, but we usually do one stop for a coffee or a WC visit and I do those at a SC station just to top up the battery a bit. a 15 min break gives me plenty of juice.
So after spending 6 years with the original Ioniq with a 200ish Km range, I never once had range anxiety in my TM3.
I will never buy a petrol family car again, I might buy a vintage roadster again when the kids are a bit older though.
When I drive a petrol car now, the pain of paying (an absurd amount these days) money at the pump is far worse than any range anxiety I might experience in my EV
Most road trips we do are in the 3 hours range, either down the coast in summer or to the mountains in the winter (250-300km). So I seldom have to charge other than at home, but we usually do one stop for a coffee or a WC visit and I do those at a SC station just to top up the battery a bit. a 15 min break gives me plenty of juice.
So after spending 6 years with the original Ioniq with a 200ish Km range, I never once had range anxiety in my TM3.
I will never buy a petrol family car again, I might buy a vintage roadster again when the kids are a bit older though.
When I drive a petrol car now, the pain of paying (an absurd amount these days) money at the pump is far worse than any range anxiety I might experience in my EV
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And that @yoak is the reality for the majority of people, it really isn't an issue for 95% of the time. And even for the other 5% as you say you stop for a coffee or WC visit anyway, but you can do that whilst charging. There isn't even a time difference compared to having an ICE.
All currently on the market are good enough for most people.