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Who has or is planning to get an electric car / EV Talk
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That 36 mpg is for a hybrid SUV... Most SUV's sit in the 15-25 MPG range... I get 14-20 in my Ram (5.7 Hemi), I would love to get 36 in a Ram... I got a 2003 e46 325i (from my brother) just to get around 30 mpg for my commute.
All commutes vary and that makes a difference, but 15-25? I do t think I could use that much fuel if I tried.
I would LOVE to get 15-25 on my Ram regularly. SUV's just aren't built for fuel economy. I think adding Electric or even hybrid was a necessary thing. Our next SUV will probably be hybrid (since it would be a work horse, and my wife will forget to plug an EV).
Not a fan of SUV’s. I prefer being a bit closer to the ground. Better handling and (apparently) fuel economy.
I’m sure it is. But the whole point of an electric car/hybrid is it’s better for the environment. 36mpg doesn’t sound good for the environment to me.
The problem with hybrids for me is you still have all the maintenance costs of the ICE, so you don’t really gain. Especially when you read most people with a plug in hybrid don’t bother, so you just end up with an ICE car with extra weight to carry everywhere.
I'd love to get an EV but I'm moving into an apartment on Tuesday since I sold my house and it does not have chargers on the property. I use my car for my job so an EV will not work for me. The world is not ready for huge amounts of EVs.
Agreed. My boss has a Tesla. He puts it on charge at night to take advantage of cheaper electricity. He completed a long journey and got home with 7% battery. He put it on charge for the cheaper part of the night knowing he wasn’t going anywhere the next day and it would only take him up to 40%. Then he gets a call in the night that a family member is about to pass away, so he has to drive to the other end of the country. Of course he had to stop to charge. Now fortunately because it’s a Tesla and the services had a fast charger available, it was just a quick stop. But I’m not ready for that sort of battery anxiety in my life.
I could easily go order a Tesla today if I wanted to. I went through the Tesla site a few months ago and I could easily afford one but it's charging the vehicle again that will be the problem. I don't even think the world will be ready in 10 years for even 50% of the population to own an EV. Imagine an apartment complex with a EV charger in every parking space. They may not have to have every space converted but most of them will likely have to be and that cost will be huge.
In 10 years I will be 77 and most likely by then, I won't have use for one.
Agree. But I could never buy a Tesla. Just too ugly inside. Too expensive as well for what they are. I never buy new cars. I can’t handle the depreciation. Usually a year or 18 month old.
I do not like the interior of any of the Teslas I looked at on the website. I just said above that I looked at them and even went through the ordering process to a point to see how long the wait would be. I like my CR-V Hybrid. It's working for me NOW.
In retrospect, Your boss should’ve never let the battery get that low. That’s his fault, not the fact that because he owns an EV. Part of being an owner of an EV vehicle, is also being mindful of where the battery percentage is in terms of regulation, especially with lithium ion batteries. Similar to why you want to allow the battery to he charged at/around 80% as a median. From my gatherings over the years, it’s not prudent to allow lithium ion batteries to fully deplete or almost be fully depleted, as that will affect the longevity-health of the battery.
I understand we’re all human, and sometimes we can’t keep batteries fully regulated, just as we would a smart phone. But that’s part of being an EV owner is not being complacent. It’s partially added responsibility to prepare to make a schedule in advance of how to gauge when to charge, where it’s no different than say charging an electronic device in your house.
Respectfully, you’ve mentioned multiple times you’re not interested in EV’s (In this thread and the ‘Car thread), and then if you’re adding any type of ‘battery anxiety’ as you worded it, then you’re never going to be the target buyer for the EV market. You seem to like cars with higher mileage like your older ICE VW, which is perfectly normal if you’re comfortable with non-electric.
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One anecdotal trend I find interesting (I’ve been paying attention for quite some time to the EV sector), is the people who tend to shun or disregard EV’s, tend to be an older demographic (50’s-70’s). I think that’s partially because of the paradigm shift currently happening, and all they’ve known their whole life has been internal combustion and they [The older demographic] can’t figure out why they would need/want an EV vehicle, if their ‘internal combustion’ car works for their needs. Even in conversations outside Macrumors in the social circle people I know, most of them are younger in their 30s yes seem to have more of a following for the EV segment, which segues because this younger group are also into ‘tech’, which is all these auto manufacturers are marketing.
So for example, my dad, he has been on a flip-flop of purchasing an EV for while now, but he said that he doesn’t know how he would appreciate leaving internal combustion in place of an EV, as that’s what he’s known his whole life.
Naturally for me, I’m heavy into tech and young, and I think it makes sense for somebody that is interested in EV, it would be a natural selection if your region supports the infrastructure for most people.
So for example, my dad, he has been on a flip-flop of purchasing an EV for while now, but he said that he doesn’t know how he would appreciate leaving internal combustion in place of an EV, as that’s what he’s known his whole life.
Naturally for me, I’m heavy into tech and young, and I think it makes sense for somebody that is interested in EV, it would be a natural selection if your region supports the infrastructure for most people.
I suggest you go back and reread those posts. I am interested in electric vehicles. Would love to drive something greener. Just the technology isn’t there yet. If I drive to London for work, I want to get there and back without the need for a stop. Or to be able to charge at our London office. Until that’s possible and there are plenty of charging points I’ll stick with the better quality German built cars than one of those awful Teslas.
Would it be appropriate for me to make the same suggestion to you? I’m not entirely enthused looking up your posting history, but I’ve had past discussions with you before, it shouldn’t be that far of a stretch of a memory for you. In that same highlight, I truly don’t believe that you understand the EV sector as a whole, just based off past discussions, only that you don’t want ‘battery anxiety’ is at least one of them from your paring above.
Better is a very subjective word and isn’t even relevant if you’re comparing ICE to EV, that’s not going take you very far just because your favor German cars. FTR, German cars aren’t without their flaws too, But that’s neither here nor there.
By the way, we get it, you don’t like Teslas. Noted. However, for you to say ‘Those awful Tesla’s’, I imagine there’s plenty of members that would totally disagree-refute you on many levels, being they are actual owners., especially since you have no experience with those cars whatsoever (With The exception of riding in one with your ‘boss’ once in a while, which doesn’t count towards ownership experience.) But you’re entitled to your opinion. I understand you don’t like the center display in a Tesla and you prefer ‘buttons and knobs’, which you’ve said many times over. So you don’t need to rehash that either.
I do think Tesla’s were vehicles in the past that were mocked for a very valid reason, but I also believe Teslas have greatly improved in many facets of quality control and software integration, and it’s becoming a very mature platform. Tesla is not perfect, but they are making huge strides.
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I’m expressing my opinion. Your entitled to yours. You like American muscle cars. I’m not a fan. What’s that got to do with anything? The points I made are valid. Just because they don’t align with yours is neither here or there.
No, you didn’t. What you posted below, was presenting as fact. What you could’ve said, was in my opinion, or my perspective is……
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You didn’t make any valid points. You simply labeled a Tesla, (which I truly don’t believe you understand EV’s in general), as ‘awful’. So please explain, what valid points did you make other than quoting “German quality built cars are better, Tesla’s are awful”. Again, you have no direct ownership for you to even make such a claim, other than you rode along in a Tesla a few times. So I’ll ask you again, what makes a Tesla awful based on your claim.
I agree, you have an opinion, but you didn’t present them that way, therefore I can question you. No need to be so defensive.
That’s fine that you prefer German cars, but it doesn’t have any relation to an EV vehicle whatsoever.
Since we don't know the distance you travel on your London trip it is hard to recommend an EV.
The only one we know of so far with crazy range is the Lucid Air (513 US Miles). I know BMW is now selling their i4 but I have not heard much in the way of long distance driving reviews.
Only those with equity in coal mines and nat gas producers. That is where the electricity comes from. So if you want the air in ‘resume speed Tennessee“ to look like Beijing than buy that electric car!
Seems to indicate it isn't as lopsided as your are making it out to be.
The more I think about it, the more I would consider getting a Volkswagen ID.4 AWD over a Tesla Model Y. At least there are reasonably plentiful CSS 1 DC chargers out there now.
Well it’s German made so that’s a plus! I’ve looked at them when I’ve been at the dealership. Not a bad looking car. But overall I prefer the styling of the Golf. The e-golf is about £10k extra over the ICE equivalent. That’s a lot of petrol!
I'd get the q4 etron over the id.4 (same platform, the audi has nicer exterior/interior for not a whole lot more money)