I noticed the nice Michelins on a friend's Tesla this week. Most people I know that drive this class of car spend for good tires as they understand how important tires are. I have one friend who drives M3 BMWs and he goes through tires in 20K miles. I would think that Tesla drivers are similar.
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I noticed the nice Michelins on a friend's Tesla this week. Most people I know that drive this class of car spend for good tires as they understand how important tires are. I have one friend who drives M3 BMWs and he goes through tires in 20K miles. I would think that Tesla drivers are similar.
Drive sensibly and they do last longer, or so I have heard, lol.
I hear so many people saying 'I bought a Tesla', as if it were a must have fashion accessory. As soon as that became the motivation for people to buy one, I knew there was no way that I would ever own one. I am not a Musk cultist, and if owning one meant people seeing me in one would mean that I was a member 'in good standing', then I'd rather walk.
Hero worship is missing in our current society, what with people going to the 'Hard Rock Arena'. There are plenty of other more deserving human beings that should be up for the forming a cult, IMO. *sigh*
I ran Pirelli's on my Benz, and they lasted a long time, for tires. The factory shoes lasted a year. The Pirelli's lasted nearly 2, and they gripped the road like a Ferengi grips gold pressed latinum from day one until the end. They worked as all season great shoes. I think they supplied Michelin rubber originally.
In the last dozen years I have not owned a car long enough to wear out it's initial set of tires. I must drive like an old lady.
have a model 3, electric cars are a change of lifestyle. i don’t ever want to drive an ICE car again. no more gas station trips. always 100% battery when leaving the house. instant torque. after driving the model 3 for a couple weeks, sitting in a C300 Benz made me feel disgusting lol the cabin felt like an old propeller plane.
HAH! It still is, I'd imagine, for some people.
I have an iPhone because it works, and so many other people have one, that I'd have to have it covered in real diamonds and crazy glued to my forehead to make it a status symbol.
But it's amazing how much stuff I accidentally wear that are status symbols: I bought a pair of 'Hey Dude!' shoes on a trip this spring, and wore them to a PT appointment a couple of months ago, and was practically mobbed by both employees and patients! 'YOU HAVE THOSE SHOES!!!' Someone cooed. Huh, what shoes? 'THOSE SHOES!!!' one employee squealed, pointing at my hooves. I laughed, and said that I was apparently trying to make them less popular. She had 'yoga pants' on, and I said that next week I was going to show up in leggings to try to make them less popular too. She looked shocked, but the girls that were with me laughed. Most people laughed. I certainly did not expect to be singled out for shoes I bought because my feet hurt and wanted some 'garbage shoes' to wear and toss to help make them feel better. Now they are stylish? Hmm...
*sigh*
No, I did not show up in leggings/yoga pants. I figured if I did, I'd be arrested and disappeared from this weird society.
But people wear all kinds of things for 'status', and some wear things accidentally and shun the status.
I've seen so many fads come and go, and even come back again. *groan*
The C300 is Mercedes lower end model and it’s last major refresh was in 2014. I don’t think it’s comparable to a Tesla, simply because a C300 is all about the ‘busy action’ with the gauges, center console controls, more cockpit like feeling, whereas; a M3, tends to be more open, airy, and just less cluttered altogether. There’s two different types of executions here with the interior.
There was one member here, who owned an M3, and sold it in place of another German car, simply because they missed the engine sounds, dynamics, ect. So for some people, it is a drastic change, but really requires an adaptation process.
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Not really - if you factor in the amount of brake wear which is minimal due to regenerative braking, the cost of brake jobs is significantly reduced with EV, FCV & PHEV cars.
I won't expect a brake pad replacement for at least 60,000 miles or more!
As for tires, they wear out normally - my PHEV is at 36,000 miles with the original set and they are due to replace in about 5,000 miles = very standard wear. Mine wear more on the front tires (FWD) so rotations are necessary to keep them wearing the same.
Compared the nearest model: Honda Accord, my Clarity weighs in at 500lbs over the Accord.
So I am expecting the Ford Lightning with it's 6000lb GVWR to wear out it's tires as the same as any 4WD light duty 1/2 ton pickup truck.....
agree, my Prius Prime tire wear is "normal", and it uses LRR Low Rolling Resistance tires which help with fuel economy.
Teslas are using high performance tires afaik, when I had BMW, tires lasted 20-25kmiles max, brake pads even less, and of course they used high performance tires ... tradeoffs ...
I had a Prius for over a year, and the tires were 'perfect' when I traded it in. No appreciable wear. Not like my Benz, where the tires had issues, dry rot, and were getting very thin, in just about a year. I guess YMMV, but I wasn't expecting to have to replace the tires in a few years. *shrug*
Performance models have summer tires, the other models use all seasons but they typically are grand touring type.
I am not saying it is impossible to get the tires to last. Just that the acceleration comes at a cost and if you stick to OEM (for at least Tesla) they are like 200 a tire. With other tires impacting range. And since Tesla doesn't (readily) show a GOM you more or less end up not trusting the DTE the main screen provides (which you really shouldn't trust anyways).
Oh, hah! The only way the Prius I had would 'get rubber' is if it were towed with the parking brake on. Speed wasn't its strong suit, or any suit. That being said, I've had more tires dry rot than run out of tread in the past 15 years or so. The Benz tires were dry rotting, and pretty skimpy on tread. The Pirelli's were $500 a piece. EACH! OUCH!!! But were fantastic tires...
I just can’t even…..
I’m sorry. I know looks are very much subjective, but that truck is absolutely hideous. I think Rivian is an outstanding company that really is going to put out a great product, they made national news with their IPO, I truly believe they want to make their mark in this EV segment, and for the right reasons.
But I suspect they’re in some trouble, because their prices for their truck models (Which is only 2 of them) is pushing $60,000, when the Ford Lightning and Cybertruck truck will be considerably cheaper. I will say their interiors seem very well thought out.
I’m sure at some point, Rivian will continue to build their line up with other models, likely based on Rivians future success.
I can't comment on Musk's stability, he's certainly done some odd things from time to time so no argument there. However, very little of your purchase contributes to Musk...his wealth is based on stock valuation. Your purchase funds the company's operations. As to long term maintenance and old battery disposition...how is that different than any other EV?
But it goes to character. If he decides to end or alter a product, it effects every owner. If they made poor engineering decisions, it effects every owner. I just don't trust his judgement, and that judgement effects their products.
as they say on /r/RealTesla: Revolutionary cars, Poopy (adult word here) company..
I agree - while the Rivian is not my cup of tea, the pricing is just way up there - almost as if they are trying to gain the Hummer EV group of buyers.
The GM line of EV trucks & SUV will be their main competitor IMO.
The Ford Lightning and Tesla Cybertruck will be for the majority of consumers who are realistic.
Can't wait to get my "affordable" Lightning truck - never a Ford truck customer in the past, but the $11,500 discount is really appealing.
As long as the dealerships don't add their "market adjustment" fee on top... My wife really likes the Rivian, but I think it will be "easier" to get a F150 Lightning, assuming the markup isn't as bad as it was for the Mach-E.
Yes
unless you really wanna go electric or like the particular model. I recommend a Telsa, its a totally different experience.
Almost like going from a flip phone to a smart phone.
like 2D to 3D
like the invention of refrigeration, air conditioning, heating. Hell the aqueduct
Almost like going from a flip phone to a smart phone.
like 2D to 3D
like the invention of refrigeration, air conditioning, heating. Hell the aqueduct
I set a goal for myself for next year to buy a Tesla. I'm still thinking about which model I want the most.