Public transport is a good option for places like London or other big cities. But that’s about it. Even when I lived in London without a car many years ago it was a pain sometimes.
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Who has or is planning to get an electric car / EV Talk
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No idea, I’ve reported it to the mods as it’s a forum glitch.
Not a glitch. Tapatalk on iOS 18 is the culprit.
If using an old version, it needs to be updated. If using Pro, need to stop using it as it was abandoned.
If using an old version, it needs to be updated. If using Pro, need to stop using it as it was abandoned.
took delivery of this beauty last night, Ioniq 5
Thanks I was using Pro, something I’ve always used since I joined here as it was a clean app and no ads. Cheers for the info.
EVs will replace fossil fuel vehicles with only some jealously guarded exceptions. With that comes a harsh reality.
Electricity demand will skyrocket exponentially and with factoring in grid upgrades along with the demand the price we will pay will go right along with it.
Currently 60% of electricity comes from fossil fuel. That isn’t going to cut it.
We need new sources of electricity, and just like fossil fuel, wind and solar aren’t going to cut it.
By the way, Three Mile Island is coming back online in 2028 to produce more than 800MW of power, all of which is slated to go to Microsoft to support its AI infrastructure.
We need to provide round-the-clock carbon-free power and irrespective of Three Mile Island’s partial meltdown in 1979, the Chernobyl disaster in 1986, and the earthquake and tsunami that hit the Fukushima plant in 2011 it looks like we have no alternative but to embrace the risks of nuclear power to meet the demand.
It varies a lot by country. Yes we need to improve in all areas for sure. But we are also improving efficiency in what we use as well (led lights for example).
France and Sweden seem to be doing best. Quite surprised at Japan being one of the worst offenders though.
The world uses 60% fossil fuel, just like the US. But when it comes down to demand, price, and future national security I don’t care much about any other country except the US first and a handful of other countries. The EV proponents should be just as engaged in finding solutions to safely provide the future supply - as not to do so is as much of an existential threat as remaining on fossil fuel.
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I’m all for green solutions, but even burning gas to produce electricity is greener than individual ICE engines running around.
Wind, solar, wave and others are growing in popularity. Just need to make it a global effort.
Again, the EV future is settled. It is inevitable. EVs will replace fossil fuel vehicles with only some jealously guarded exceptions.
But it is all irrelevant with an insufficient suppy.
And it is further irrelevant if in a careless zeal to meet the demand results in nuclear waste and accidents that poisons thousands of miles of countryside along with our atmosphere. The planet is just as inhabitable then as it is from the greenhouse effect.
I’m surprised to see that EV proponents are not as vocal in discussing safe local and global solutions to meet the future energy demand. Nuclear energy may be carbon-free but their accidents and waste are certainly not “green”.
While I’m not switching to an EV due of my age and circumstance, but my children and grandchildren certainly will be. We all should be concerned with their future safety, security, and prosperity.
I’m vocal on that, my country is moving very fast to solar power, just look at the huge installations and batteries being put on houses everywhere at a very fast rate.
No one wants to see people or the planet suffering. Whilst nuclear can have its place I’d much rather see solar and wind development. That and people just using less. 75” TV’s left on in three rooms with no one watching them, or AC keeping houses like refrigerators.
Using less is key to the energy crisis just as much as how we produce it.
One does not have to be vocal to do ones part. Many of us have had solar panels for years (I’ve had them for 10+ years). In the typical summer day my panels produce more than my wife and I use to charge our 2 EVs.
So, we basically are using 100% clean energy to charge our cars.
My motorcycle is in long term storage, I have battery powered mower/edger/trimmer. But because of an auto accident, I have to use landscapers (also part of the reason the motorcycle is setup for storage). I was going to get the matching battery backpack leaf blower.
If everyone puts panels on their homes, especially in areas with a lot of sun (Im in NY, so not like those in the southern US), the overall ratio will change.
No it won't. For one thing, refining oil into gasoline uses a lot of electricity, so much so that using that electricity for EVs instead of gasoline covers at least 20% of the required increase right there. Demand will increase, but not "exponentially" or even close to that. If you have to resort to wild hyperbole, you've already lost the debate.
Yes they are. There's far more electricity-generating potential from them than we can ever use. What, you think solar and wind generation has peaked and no more can be installed? It's only just begun. Also, there's more to renewables than solar and wind.
Absolutely 100% false.
What if the internal combustion engines of the future reach thermal efficiencies of 75% and greater? I don't believe that EV's will replace the Internal combustion engine anytime soon. The latest F1 engines have already reached thermal efficiencies of at least 50% in just a few years. Some automobile manufacturers have engines-in the development stages-that reach 50% thermal efficiency.
But there is something that sometimes we forget, and that is "the aircraft engine". These engines burn a lot of fuel, crisscrossing the entire world. Would it be possible to design batteries to propel aircraft like fuel does today? A US gallon of jet fuel weights around 6 pounds, and can propel a lightweight car with a 4-cylinder engine... over 30 miles. But a 6-pound battery is not going to propel the same car a distance of 30 miles.
I do like the idea of scientific explorations into all types of fuels and modes of propulsion, including electricity to power vehicles. I believe that the present type of EV (cars) is not the only future. For me to believe it is, it stifles human ingenuity or desires to explore future possibilities. It would feel like a mouse mentally giving up and sinking in a pond
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another use for electric cars is functioning as a battery for home solar power systems. A lot of folk have two cars in my area, even three or four. If one isn’t used all day then it could eventually become useful as a battery for solar.
When solar generates more than the house is using then charge the battery. When it isn’t, then take power from battery. People have 20kw solar power systems or more so why not.
A car battery at 70-80kwh versus a dedicated home battery at 14kwh, the car could do the job easily.
When solar generates more than the house is using then charge the battery. When it isn’t, then take power from battery. People have 20kw solar power systems or more so why not.
A car battery at 70-80kwh versus a dedicated home battery at 14kwh, the car could do the job easily.
There are a further 64 nuclear reactors scheduled to be installed across the UK in the comming years as Hinckley Point 2 will only service a fifth of households here. Unfortunately as good as wind power is, there are a lot of lobby groups preventing them due to them being unsightly and the need to have them in areas of natural beauty, much like parts of South Wales where I live. I know people are concerned about nuclear power but its nothing like Chernobyl in this day and age. I was in a meeting a couple of years ago and Hinckley Point was discussed and the technologies used now are impressive to say the least. Its designed to be protected against several 747 jets crashing into it and missile proof.
I don't have solar panels on my house and its becoming less of an incentive to get them due to the benefits not being anywhere near what they used to be. An electrician I know has them and has the large batteries, to which he is almost 100% sufficient off them for his house and E-Tron GT electric vehicle. I don't think it'll be long before you won't be allowed to do that.
How would they stop you from producing and using all your own solar power? If I had the cash I’d buy it today. But putting solar on 70 year old roof tiles would probably not be wise.
Mind you today I need power generated by rainfall. In the UK we could power the whole world 😜
By applying a tax to it. Much like there is discussions to add EV's to the ULEZ zones at a reduced rate despite them not producing any emissions whatsover. We have a massive shock coming to us next month I think and owning any type of car is about to get a whoe lot more expensive.
Rain fall power would be a great technology, I am currently sat in the office watching day 4 of torrential rain. We'd be a lot better off in Wales if that existed!
Electricity demand does will not skyrocket exponentially, because EVs replacing of combustion vehicle does not skyrocket exponentially.
There are over a billion vehicles in the world and they're not getting replaced overnight, in 1 month, or in 1 year.
This is not exponential. It's linear.
And it's driven by gen global pop growth and increased industrialization from china.
What's the benefit of getting electric cars?
Other than the tax credit
What can it do vs a regular gas vehicle?
For me, there's more cons than pros
Other than the tax credit
What can it do vs a regular gas vehicle?
For me, there's more cons than pros
Some I can think of:
- Smoother drive and fast responsive acceleration (not comparing to performance cars). Less fatigue on longer runs due to refined cabin experience.
- No harmful emissions for pedestrians to breathe in.
- Little maintenance apart from brakes and tyres. Brakes last longer than ICE cars due to regenerative braking.
- Incredibly cheap running costs compared to an ICE vehicle (full charge getting you 250+ miles for around £7 compared to half a tank of fuel costing £50).
- Can be charged at home (depending on your circumstances) for convenience.
- Bigger spaces and priority spaces in car parks (at the moment) for added convenience.
As well as those @The-Real-Deal82 wrote I would say
Reduced servicing charges.
Improved reliability.
Quieter for you in the vehicle and those near where you drive.
One pedal driving.
Oh and helps save the planet so that’s good for everyone!