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Who has or is planning to get an electric car / EV Talk
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I think because the EVs are 'simpler' than ICE ... the technology will come from all over the world. It's just a commodity. Maybe not a 'simple' as solar collectors, but EVs are another tech that is global ... maybe in the future EVs will come from even lower cost areas ... India, S. Africa, Brazil??
What is really happening here? The “troubles” are quite old, this is now highlighted by the unions, they are asking the government to protect the employees, demanding incentives for new EVs and such, highly politically motivated and the German chancellor is already reacting … you also need to understand that VW is partially owned by the government (the state of Lower saxony has like a 25% stake), the unions are extremely strong… and if you look back 15 or so years when ”Diesel gate” happened, VW got away with it, everything to protect the jobs, consumers were screwed over.
this is way out of context of the thread and highly political, so I’m ending here.
VW dropped the ball on EVs, it's not a money thing, it's a we can't develop software internally thing. They are now financing Rivian, which if rumors are correct, it is to gain access to Rivian's software/hardware...
VAG has the money to be able to have been a front runner in EVs, but they didn't. It's on them.
VAG has the money to be able to have been a front runner in EVs, but they didn't. It's on them.
There is not enough demand from their home market for EVs.
Many people rent apartments and don't have car ports or chargers next door. They need to find a new empty parking space every other day. Many companies don't provide parking or chargers as well. EVs are a permanent hassle if you don't live in your own house. Sometimes just being in the wrong EV charging program having the "wrong" card is enough to let a charger NOT top you off except for some minimum reserve.
EVs were too expensive and are not "people's cars". Only if you have more than one vehicle one might work for short distance commuting and be some EV.
We bought a new (small) car recently. With combustion engine for range and usability. Both of us independently had this preference. Made by VW Group BTW.
Many people rent apartments and don't have car ports or chargers next door. They need to find a new empty parking space every other day. Many companies don't provide parking or chargers as well. EVs are a permanent hassle if you don't live in your own house. Sometimes just being in the wrong EV charging program having the "wrong" card is enough to let a charger NOT top you off except for some minimum reserve.
EVs were too expensive and are not "people's cars". Only if you have more than one vehicle one might work for short distance commuting and be some EV.
We bought a new (small) car recently. With combustion engine for range and usability. Both of us independently had this preference. Made by VW Group BTW.
EV’s work for a lot more than just short commutes for lots of people. Our main car is an EV. When it comes time to replace Mrs AFB car it will also be an EV.
No more ICE car purchases for this house.
I would just not want to route my drives along charging points. Fast charging stresses the battery every time.
I would consider some EV only for defined distance commuting from a place with a permanent private charging point available.
I use (electric) high speed trains for most of my longer distance travel.
I would consider some EV only for defined distance commuting from a place with a permanent private charging point available.
I use (electric) high speed trains for most of my longer distance travel.
Sounds like you need to do a bit more research.
90% of charging is done at home. If travelling longer distances the charging points are located mostly on the motorways or the popular routes, so no need to change your route at all.
The battery management system takes care of the battery maintenance, so no need to worry about how many time you fast or rapid charge the battery. It will outlast the car most likely.
I charge at work mostly. It’s free and I’m there for 8 hours anyway. Saves me lots of time having to travel to petrol stations and fill up.
Generally once a week is enough.
That I fully agree with. I would not have an EV if I didn't have my own driveway and smart charging point.
This, nah. That can easily be resolved. Especially when living in Europe this short vs long distance distinction is just not necessary. The infrastructure is plenty good enough. As good as every car on the market be it new or second hand can go further than one's bladder can hold itself. Plenty of cheaper second hand models available as well, except in the absolute bottom of the market unless the early Nissan Leafs work for you.
Isn’t that part of the IRS code? Would take some time and not sure if the Tesla CEO would be in board with that…
Likely, Teslas will get a new break, or a special extension.
As quickly as they can pass another law to remove it. He has claimed he is fine if subsidies are removed as long as it is across the board.
There have been ev battery studies that have debunked the myth about fast charging and battery degradation.
I personally think CarPlay is a crutch that auto manufacturers use because they can’t make their own usable user interface.
I haven’t missed CarPlay in my Teslas. Rivian owners also are happy with their UIs. Other than them, most haven’t been able to successfully do it.
I do use Waze via bluetooth for police notifications, but other than the crowdsourced info on it, I don’t miss it. Tesla introduced speed/red Light camera notifications within the maps.
Yes, if you just use maps and one of the major music services, then you can get by with the automaker’s offerings, but if you need apps that are less mainstream, Tesla and GM are not going to provide them and you are forced to just use the limited Bluetooth interface and your phone’s small screen. That is less convenient, less safe, and may be illegal in your area.
I rented a Tesla for 10 days last year and it was frustrating as I wanted to listen to my podcasts and I had to just use Bluetooth and interact with the phone screen while driving. Not ideal. Why can’t manufacturers put in the small effort to allow us to use phone streaming for situations where they cannot or will not provide the functionality? It’s not just about who is providing the “better“ software.
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I think CarPlay bridges nicely the interface that you use most of the time into your car, but we all have a different take.
not making carplay or android auto an Option is just a dumb move by the automakers, including Tesla and Rivian, little effort required…