A nice repair bill when you cant get to highway speed and someone crashes into you looks attractive then....
It cost me $38 to go 1100 miles in my Model 3. And I still get to enjoy a zippy car and have the acceleration if I need it.
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A nice repair bill when you cant get to highway speed and someone crashes into you looks attractive then....
It cost me $38 to go 1100 miles in my Model 3. And I still get to enjoy a zippy car and have the acceleration if I need it.
Last time I had a car written off it did in fact have a full tank of petrol! But that was years ago!A nice repair bill when you cant get to highway speed and someone crashes into you looks attractive then....
It cost me $38 to go 1100 miles in my Model 3. And I still get to enjoy a zippy car and have the acceleration if I need it.
Agreed.
Actually, I suspect that there well may be a different driving culture Across The Pond.
Not just there. We have enough drivers here who seem to think the motorway is a racetrack.
And again, agreed.
And, sometimes, such attitudes and behaviour also come with a side order of aggression, arrogance, and impatience.
Sadly usually male as well. I admit I wasn’t such a courteous driver at 17. Fortunately my car wasn’t able to go that fast then. Just as well as I’d probably have killed my self with my stupid antics.
I sincerely believe you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the purpose not only of just EV’s, but even ICE powered vehicles based off your postings.
For example, I have a Camaro that pushes north of 650 HP, there’s no way legally I could use 650 HP on a public roadway, but that doesn’t mean I need to use 650 HP on a roadway either. More or less, that’s what the car is capable of. You’re given the privilege to drive a vehicle and have control over how fast you travel, regardless of how much power an ICE or EV vehicle has. It’s ot that you need the power, but it’s capable. That’s the point.
Unfortunately all too often, all too true.
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A difference of opinion does not equate to a "misunderstanding of the purpose" of something.
In practice, the maintenance costs are not doubled-up directly. Yes, you still need to do oil changes and such, but on a plug-in hybrid, the gasoline engine does not run frequently and when it does, it is usually running in a non-stressed state. the EV system tends to run at an optimum rpm without pushing to the extremes very often. As a result, the oil change intervals are much longer and the engines last longer.
It is surely possible people to spend extra money on a vehicle and then fail to actually use that vehicle properly but that is not something that all owners will do. Someone with a little smarts will actually make use of the money saving feature that they paid for.
In context to your post, if you look at a Prius, those vehicles can hit north of 350,000 miles, simply because they don’t idle when parked (Which obviously use the batteries to power the vehicle and travel at 10MPh or less without the engine), which drastically improve the lifespan of the engine.
Even if you live in a very rare region where 100% of the electricity comes from coal, an EV is efficient enough that the CO2 and other emissions are about equivalent to a 50mpg hybrid. In reality very few grids in the US and not that many across the world are really 100% coal and many of those coal plants are older and being replaced by cleaner sources as they are shut down.
That’s more about poor drivers, I grew up in Florida and the test was easy! I moved to the Uk and the test was very difficult in comparison and the UK as a whole has much better drivers. 1.0 Can still be zippyA nice repair bill when you cant get to highway speed and someone crashes into you looks attractive then....
It cost me $38 to go 1100 miles in my Model 3. And I still get to enjoy a zippy car and have the acceleration if I need it.
Tests are even worse now. Some colleagues are learning to drive. One failed her test. It’s a 6 month waiting list to book the next one!
That too, but not accelerating and entering a highway at 30 MPH when everyone else is doing 60 MPH because you don't want to burn an extra ounce or two of gas to get to highway speed faster cause trying to save money is still not very safe. Not saying you have to floor it, but people try to save gas a bit too extreme at times.
Maybe if the car weighed 1000 pounds a 1.0 liter engine can be zippy.... But if the 0-60 time is from now to next year, it's slow as crap.
I don’t think the quality of Tesla’s is particularly great under the best of circumstances compared to other cars at the given price points. It’s interesting how the idea of a premium or “luxury” for many consumers these days, especially people my age (millennial) is less about actual quality and more about technology.
Some of the defects Tesla passes through their QC is quite amazing given how expensive their cars are and how far cars have come in the past 2-3 decades. It’s absurd the most valuable car company in the world has such difficulty putting together their vehicles.
I’ve always thought Tesla would be more successful if they manufactured drivetrains and autonomous tech for other brands, while retaining a small manufacturing of exclusive vehicles (ie Roadster) they can charge $250k for. Additionally, they could license out their supercharger network. Most manufactures have little issue with their assembly but seem to struggle to keep up with technology and lack innovative thinking. Infotainment systems often seem to be behind where they should be compared to cell phones for example. Tesla can lead the industry in EV, autonomous, and in-car technology in most cases, but struggle to assemble their cars properly. And I’ve heard way too many cases of people having problems purchasing their car and with support/maintenance.
Pretty much everyone I know with a Tesla has multiple horror stories of nonsensical issues I’ve never heard of with legacy brands. It’s amazing what people put up with. A British sports car as your weekend toy is one thing, your daily driver is another.
My dad is a Land Rover fanatic so I understand the irrational love of impractical cars. But I never found Teslas as invigorating as many owners do. I’ve driven them and ridden in them. They don’t particularly move me. But to each his (or her own).
I’m not anti-EV either. I think the Taycan and Rivian are very appealing. I don’t think an EV makes sense yet for me personally, but I’m sure things will be changing quickly. People should be concerned about the increasing number of EV’s (I expect within 10 years EV’s will dominate the new car market), the growing power generation insufficiency the US is facing especially in certain areas, and how we will accommodate an ever increasing demand on our power grid. Anyone deeply knowledgeable about power generation will tell you solar panels and wind turbines are not going to be the solution.
I took my test (UK) in 2000 and probably wouldn’t pass the current tests as they have gotten much harder again. It’s a good thing though I reckon as it makes those bad drivers a little more aware. You’re right the small litre petrol cars here with their turbos are certainly nippy but thirsty at higher speeds.
A.Goldberg, that's why if I could afford it, I would end up getting a Volkswagen ID.4 over a Tesla Model Y. At least the production quality is a bit more consistent.
I'll never have an electric car or any car as public transport is everywhere near me and I like walking to the shops.
Speaking of driving test, while home (East London), it took me 3 attempts to past my test. When I moved to America, I past my test first time. Albeit, it was done in a bloody car park (still cannot believe it!).
I will add, I miss simple things like getting on the tube, or running for (and jumping on the back of) the bus. Those were the days.
In Atlanta, no matter what, I have to get in a car. So frustrating sometimes.
When I first moved here, I was taken to a shop, Target I believe. So, the driver parked the car close to the shop. Within the same area of Target, there was another shop the person wanted to go to. I started to walk towards said shop, they asked where I was going. I explained am walking to the shop. They said, no, we're driving over there. Seriously, it was about a 3-4 minute walk, if that!
The tube is great, and when I lived in London I didn’t always own a car. But where I live now there is no choice. The bus comes to the village twice a day.
That sounds wonderful, but I can only dream. Living in the country is a choice that we made, but even if we lived in Atlanta we would need a car for most everything.
And they have the cheek to say, "Marta is smarter...". No it bloody isn't - LOL
I remember the first time I travelled on Marta, it was so slow, compared to the tube speeds I was used, too (from London, taking the tube to work everyday).