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The goal of charging on a trip is to get to the next stop with charger, not to fill up to 100% as you would with gas. If you need to go 200 miles until your next stop, on long range EVs you would charge to less than 80%. Tesla's route guidance will stop you for 10-25 minutes for this. Let's say the next leg of the trip is 150 miles, the route planner would expect you to only charge for 5-10 minutes to be able to get you that 150 miles.

Since charging isn't linear, the goal is to minimize time at a charger, while allowing for enough time to stretch your legs and go into the rest stop.

For DD, you would charge to 80% or less with L2 charging, so no need to worry, just plug it in and go on with your night.
Exactly. Most EV’s direct you to your next charger on route. Not just Tesla.
 
Exactly. Most EV’s direct you to your next charger on route. Not just Tesla.

As I have no experience with BMW's EVs, does the i3 do charging planning too? As in, will it say at this stop charge to 50%, then at the next stop charge to 70%,...?

I assume it does, just have never driven an i3. But with the smaller range of an i3, I'm sure at most stops it wants you to charge to 80% (or whatever is the best practice level is for the i3).
 
As I have no experience with BMW's EVs, does the i3 do charging planning too? As in, will it say at this stop charge to 50%, then at the next stop charge to 70%,...?

I assume it does, just have never driven an i3. But with the smaller range of an i3, I'm sure at most stops it wants you to charge to 80% (or whatever is the best practice level is for the i3).
So it doesn’t but it’s an old version of the idrive. The newer ones do. At home (well work!) I charge to 100% as in my car at least that’s not really 100% and that’s what they say to do. In fact you can’t limit it as far as I’m aware. Although I can with my home charger.

If I’m on a long trip I usually charge to 90-95% and haven’t noticed a significant change in charging speed. But you do on the last 5%.

I travel the same routes mostly when I do need to charge on the go so tend to just stop at services I’ve researched on zappmap as ones with a good selection of chargers. I’m doing more of this currently as my role has changed a bit at work. The only bit I don’t like is the 7p a mile rate I get back for work miles. This is on top of my standard car allowance though.
 
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So it doesn’t but it’s an old version of the idrive. The newer ones do. At home (well work!) I charge to 100% as in my car at least that’s not really 100% and that’s what they say to do. In fact you can’t limit it as far as I’m aware. Although I can with my home charger.

If I’m on a long trip I usually charge to 90-95% and haven’t noticed a significant change in charging speed. But you do on the last 5%.

I travel the same routes mostly when I do need to charge on the go so tend to just stop at services I’ve researched on zappmap as ones with a good selection of chargers. I’m doing more of this currently as my role has changed a bit at work. The only bit I don’t like is the 7p a mile rate I get back for work miles. This is on top of my standard car allowance though.

Yeah, it is less important with the i3's lesser range. Basically, when you are stopping on a trip, it would make sense to charge as much as possible, then go on. Especially since it is highway speeds and could be winter.

To the non-smaller range EV people, if you charge to 100% at every stop, and you arrive at your next stop with a much higher % than needed, you end up taking longer on your trip because of that non-linear charging curve. But if you have a smaller range vehicle, or have a charger desert on your route, it is what it is, you have to spend longer to get that extra range.
 
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Yeah, it is less important with the i3's lesser range. Basically, when you are stopping on a trip, it would make sense to charge as much as possible, then go on. Especially since it is highway speeds and could be winter.

To the non-smaller range EV people, if you charge to 100% at every stop, and you arrive at your next stop with a much higher % than needed, you end up taking longer on your trip because of that non-linear charging curve. But if you have a smaller range vehicle, or have a charger desert on your route, it is what it is, you have to spend longer to get that extra range.
As many of my work trips involve a stop over I'm finding the hotels with type 2 charging are getting my business. Becoming a lot more common. So basically I leave first thing with a full battery. Usually that gets me a good chunk of the way home.
 
I don't know about that. I have been to Tesla Superchargers that, although along the highway, are not anywhere near a city. Maybe a small town up the road.

But yea, we can always use more... I will be impressed when there is one in Cleveland, GA (where I have vacationed for many years). They only have ChargePoint today. But it is a high speed charger and I am happy for that. ;)
More than likely the reason for not having Tesla and other charging, and even gas stations in isolated stretches of roads is because the lack buyers. It makes no economical sense for a company to waste money by placing such stations in places where there aren't customers to buy the product.
 
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I think the purpose of an extended pack like that is for people who do a lot of towing. That really impacts range. Still it doesn’t appear that Tesla is going to follow through on that for the CT.

I agree. The flaw to Tesla's plan (to me at least) was it required the dealer to install it. It isn't as simple as putting it in the bed and connecting a simple harness.

For me, the design should be self-contained. The user should be able to install it (ceiling harness in garage) and it should have its own internal thermal management with a cooling fan (electronic trans cooler). It would make sense that in the summer the owner would need to keep the bed open so there is adequate cooling.

The problem would be, when not in use, and removed from the bed, how do you maintain it? There are people who would need that range extender enough that they would leave it in all the time, but I would assume this group is smaller than what would be needed to recoup R&D + manufacturing for them.

Since Tesla has access to SOOOO much user data, I bet they looked at current CT battery usage and saw how small this actual number would be. If I was in charge of the project, that is what I would do. Look at CT charging of existing customers and see how often users charge to >80% and drive until needing to charge again while a trailer is connected (trailer plug connected). I'll bet this was such a small subset of owners, just like most other 1/2 ton pickups...
 
More than likely the reason for not having Tesla and other charging, and even gas stations in isolated stretches of roads is because the lack buyers. It makes no economical sense for a company to waste money by placing such stations in places where there aren't customers to buy the product.
I'm not sure why you replied here. What lead you to believe that I think Tesla should just put Superchargers wherever? I only mentioned that there wasn't one in my vacation spot and that I have an alternative. It's obvious that a business wouldn't open a location that is not needed.
 
I'm not sure why you replied here. What lead you to believe that I think Tesla should just put Superchargers wherever? I only mentioned that there wasn't one in my vacation spot and that I have an alternative. It's obvious that a business wouldn't open a location that is not needed.

FYI, it seems there is a Supercharger at Helen Georgia. <10 miles from Cleveland, GA

8492 S Main St, Helen, GA 30545

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Have an offer on a Y, hope to be in it next week!

Question regarding the routing software. Can you do round trips with that? I know it does one way and shows where you need to charge, but was wondering if you could do a round trip for something like a day trip.
 
Wow Thanks! What a difference a few months makes. It looks like this is located near the Habersham Winery (or possibly in their parking lot). I'll be up there next month so I'll definitely check it out. This is actually closer to the house in Sautee Nacoochee. I mentioned Cleveland earlier because it's the county seat and the closest "city".
 
Have an offer on a Y, hope to be in it next week!

Question regarding the routing software. Can you do round trips with that? I know it does one way and shows where you need to charge, but was wondering if you could do a round trip for something like a day trip.

The OS when you route with GPS tells you how much battery you will return home with. If your day trip is more than one charge, it will route you to chargers along the way.

Home charging is the most important thing to an easy transition to an EV. If you have home charging you are going to love it, if you don't, it will either be a little or a LOT difficult.
 
The OS when you route with GPS tells you how much battery you will return home with. If your day trip is more than one charge, it will route you to chargers along the way.

Home charging is the most important thing to an easy transition to an EV. If you have home charging you are going to love it, if you don't, it will either be a little or a LOT difficult.
I will have a Tesla home charger put in so not worried about that. Was just curious how planning a trip worked. For my motorcycle I have a BMW nav (Garmin rebranded) that I use software called BaseCamp, it is pretty detailed in what it can do. When I tried the Tesla maps thing for routing it did not show me charging, probably because I did not have an account or Tesla at all. But it did not allow me to make a multi stop route. I am going to a play in August and it is about 2.5 hours away one way, so wanted to plot it out and see how it handles that.
 
Wow Thanks! What a difference a few months makes. It looks like this is located near the Habersham Winery (or possibly in their parking lot). I'll be up there next month so I'll definitely check it out. This is actually closer to the house in Sautee Nacoochee. I mentioned Cleveland earlier because it's the county seat and the closest "city".

Superchargers are everywhere along the East and West coasts. Unless you are looking for them, you won't even know they are there. I have been taking my 3-year-old son to a Goldfish swimming class since he was 1. I had a loaner a couple weeks back which had free SC'ing so I looked for one close by. Turns out there were 16 superchargers in the same shopping center, but in the back. I never knew it was there, but I was in that parking lot every Saturday for 2 years. It was just behind the building I go to, out of site from where I park.
 
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I will have a Tesla home charger put in so not worried about that. Was just curious how planning a trip worked. For my motorcycle I have a BMW nav (Garmin rebranded) that I use software called BaseCamp, it is pretty detailed in what it can do. When I tried the Tesla maps thing for routing it did not show me charging, probably because I did not have an account or Tesla at all. But it did not allow me to make a multi stop route. I am going to a play in August and it is about 2.5 hours away one way, so wanted to plot it out and see how it handles that.

Yeah, in vehicle it takes care of everything for you. It (as of the major update this year) also adds 3rd party charging. Previously it was Tesla only. Just put in your destination and it will tell you when, and how long to stop. You can even put in multi stops on your trip.

You can also do your route planning from your phone in the Tesla app. Another think you can do is send destinations from Google/Apple maps by using the send button.

If you link your calendar in your phone to your phones Tesla app, and you put addresses in your appointments, when you get in the car the destination will already be selected, just put it in drive and go. If it needs to charge along the way, it will include these in your route.
 
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I'm not sure why you replied here. What lead you to believe that I think Tesla should just put Superchargers wherever? I only mentioned that there wasn't one in my vacation spot and that I have an alternative. It's obvious that a business wouldn't open a location that is not needed.
Good. My apologies to you. :)
 
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Looking at the various accessories for the Y and I see a screen protector. Is there really a need for this? Or what am I missing? It is not something I hold or can drop, is there some other purpose for this?
 
Looking at the various accessories for the Y and I see a screen protector. Is there really a need for this? Or what am I missing? It is not something I hold or can drop, is there some other purpose for this?

Eh, Tesla doesn't recommend you use one, because they can screw with touch recognition. I have one and am not sure if it is worthwhile the edges are already chipped from me hitting it with my phone when I am careless on putting it on the chargepad. I didn't have one on my other 3 and never had any problems. I really got one for the rear screen for my kids with their flaily arms and legs.
 
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Looking at the various accessories for the Y and I see a screen protector. Is there really a need for this? Or what am I missing? It is not something I hold or can drop, is there some other purpose for this?

I have one in my TM3 and my TMY. I got it for antiglare, which helps. When I got my TMY (off lease from Tesla) I reported a chip in the glass at inspection, they agreed to fix it at a future service appointment. Turns out, when I got home, I looked closer it was a chip in a screen protector that the previous owner had installed. I already had my TM3 for 6 months, so this solidified that it is worth it to have. If you can chip the protector, you can chip the touchscreen.

This is what I have in both. It was VERY easy to install with the auto alignment.

 
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I have one in my TM3 and my TMY. I got it for antiglare, which helps. When I got my TMY (off lease from Tesla) I reported a chip in the glass at inspection, they agreed to fix it at a future service appointment. Turns out, when I got home, I looked closer it was a chip in a screen protector that the previous owner had installed. I already had my TM3 for 6 months, so this solidified that it is worth it to have. If you can chip the protector, you can chip the touchscreen.

This is what I have in both. It was VERY easy to install with the auto alignment.

I wonder what they did to chip the screen protector. The only thing I can think of is for fingerprints and glair. I will wait and see after a month or so if I think I need it for the glair. They are not expensive.

 
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Superchargers are everywhere along the East and West coasts. Unless you are looking for them, you won't even know they are there. I have been taking my 3-year-old son to a Goldfish swimming class since he was 1. I had a loaner a couple weeks back which had free SC'ing so I looked for one close by. Turns out there were 16 superchargers in the same shopping center, but in the back. I never knew it was there, but I was in that parking lot every Saturday for 2 years. It was just behind the building I go to, out of site from where I park.
Yes, and I found this true last year as well. I took two trips, FL to NY/NJ/PA, and FL to GA and had no problems finding Superchargers with the exception of Northeast GA (Cleveland/Helen area). Now that's resolved, yay!

That's a cool story about the SCs in the shopping center. :)
 
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I have one in my TM3 and my TMY. I got it for antiglare, which helps. When I got my TMY (off lease from Tesla) I reported a chip in the glass at inspection, they agreed to fix it at a future service appointment. Turns out, when I got home, I looked closer it was a chip in a screen protector that the previous owner had installed. I already had my TM3 for 6 months, so this solidified that it is worth it to have. If you can chip the protector, you can chip the touchscreen.

This is what I have in both. It was VERY easy to install with the auto alignment.

I have no intention of installing a screen protector in my Model 3 at the moment and I don't use them on my phones either. But, if I were to do it, it would be the one you linked. I am impressed with the Spigen products I have and hear good things about this one too.
 
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I have no intention of installing a screen protector in my Model 3 at the moment and I don't use them on my phones either. But, if I were to do it, it would be the one you linked. I am impressed with the Spigen products I have and hear good things about this one too.
The only thing that has me wanting one is for fingerprints, the advertising says it is better for that. I am going to wait and see a bit before buying one. They are incredibly cheap but I may not find it necessary.
 
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