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Fomalhaut

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HDMI is great, just not when it's HDMI 2.0 for no reason.
There is a reason; display bandwidth. There just isn't enough unless you disconnected at least one of the TB4 ports from outputting video
 
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cp1160

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These new MBPs are performance and power beasts! But they also look thick, clunky and bulbous. I've cancelled my 16 inch order because it is hard to spend thousands on a laptop with design cues from 2012. I may consider the 14 but even that looks bulbous. Anyone else considering cancelling/returning?
What a joke. Why would you order one? You knew what it looked like. Are you just trying to get a clickbait headline started? Be real...if you need this level of power, you would keep it. If you were worried that it looked like 2012, which it clearly DOES NOT then you had every picture and measure of it you needed.

If you are sure the notch is going to be an issue, then ok.
 

Melbourne Park

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You can have the 16" really thin. glue on an angled 3D printed piece to the track pad front of the MBP. It might be 1" longer front to back, but because of its taper, it''ll measure up as the thinnest MBP ever made. Hey - the thinnest notebook ever made. And being 3D printed, it would be an alloy composite machine .... like some X86 still are. Now let's boast high tech.
 
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ksj1

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They know I can act like a smart @ss sometimes, but they also know I take my job seriously, after all, I do like eating and paying my bills.

So they make assumptions that whatever I get will be enough to do the job, but in having seen what that type buy for personal use, ehh, light is still their #2 criteria with the #1 being that it's a computer. :)
Been there. Just find one that is a techy and show her/him the better screen and performance. They will go brag to their cohorts about how they have the fastest machine with the best screen and the rest of them will come running.

It isn't being the lightest or thinnest in that class, it's what is cool and admired by their peers.
 
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cp1160

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I also canceled my order. I only care about thin and light. Can't justify traveling with a brick every day when the mba m1 is more than enough as a software engineer.
Like you did not know when you ordered it. The specs were clearly out there. If you don't need ports, don't want the better screen, don't want a machine with a full keyboard, then enjoy the MBA M1.

Buyers remorse....notch hating...but really?
 

jlc1978

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We used to use these bad-boys:
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6.2lbs and didn't think too much of it at the time....

I also had a MBP15 that was about 5.5lb I think...but didn't have anywhere near the performance of the Dell c. 2008-2012

Times have changed with the M1 Pro/Max MBPs though!


Remember these bad boys:

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Around $4000 in 1983. You can buy a maxed out MBP for the equivalent today and still have enough left over for a screen cleaning cloth.

There is a reason; display bandwidth. There just isn't enough unless you disconnected at least one of the TB4 ports from outputting video

I'm guessing there is some good reason they simply didn't add an extra TB4 port on the SOC as the solution. I wish they made the HDMI port bi-directional for video capture.
 
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newellj

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Not returning, but I did cancel my order after getting to play with a 14" MBP. The size was bigger than I had expected, which was no fault of the machine's - it was just a mismanaged expectation on my part. I never had any need for the horsepower - I just wanted one and excitedly pulled the trigger on the day of release. But now that I got my hands on one, I began to wonder why I'd haul around the extra size and weight over a 13" ultrabook if I didn't actually utilize the reason for the extra heft.

None of this is the MBP's fault - it's one hell of a piece of hardware. But when holding it I realized that what I really wanted was something like an 13" Air/XPS/Surface sized machine.
I went to a local store and came to the opposite conclusion (which isn't to say you're wrong, just that different conclusions are possible). I put the MBP 13" on top of and beside the 14" and think the size difference is minimal. There is certainly a difference in weight, but when I consider all the things that I regard as improvements in the 2021 14" the weight and squared profile were a very small trade-off.
 

Apple2GS

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I canceled a 14 pro order. Keeping my 13 M1. Reviews showed much worse battery life and fan noise compared to the M1 13. Waiting for the next Mac mini.
 
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ksj1

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Remember these bad boys:

View attachment 1881815

Around $4000 in 1983. You can buy a maxed out MBP for the equivalent today and still have enough left over for a screen cleaning cloth.



I'm guessing there is some good reason they simply didn't add an extra TB4 port on the SOC as the solution. I wish they made the HDMI port bi-directional for video capture.
I learned how to write code with one of those. I think I may still have the plasma version (red mono screen) in storage somewhere.
 
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bobcomer

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Do you like burning money? How could consider upgrading a 1 year old computer?!
I'm upgrading from my M1 MBA, and it's because it didn't suit my needs -- 14" M1 Max 32G RAM. it should fit a whole lot better. Love the better screen and more ports.

And no, I don't like wasting money, but sometimes you have to admit you made a mistake to yourself and move on. My trade in for the MBA helped buy the new machine.
 

flapflapflap

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I canceled a 14 pro order. Keeping my 13 M1. Reviews showed much worse battery life and fan noise compared to the M1 13. Waiting for the next Mac mini.
good move because once you use these new MBPs and their screens, it will be tough to go back to the M1 13
 
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jlc1978

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I learned how to write code with one of those. I think I may still have the plasma version (red mono screen) in storage somewhere.

We had the regular screen. Used to play an airport simulator that used ASCII for graphics, as well as a Star Trek game where you had to shot Klingons and protect starbases ina 8x8 or so matrix.

Nothing rich about poor financial decisions bud.

if a mchine enables one to make more money or be more efficient than it's not necessarily a bad decision. The MBA retained about 2/3 to 1/2 of its value, so it's essentially a rental. Depending on how long its been owned it is pretty cheap on a per month basis. Tax deductions can also lower the costs. YMMV.
 
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darngooddesign

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Nothing rich about poor financial decisions bud.
If having an M1 for a year generates more revenue than the depreciation after selling it, then it’s a good financial decision. And even if you break even, or you are well off enough to where depreciation does not affect you negatively, then being a good or bad decision is mostly irrelevant. However, if your finances mean that even the Air is a luxury expense, then yes it is probably a bad decision.
 
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Born Again

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We had the regular screen. Used to play an airport simulator that used ASCII for graphics, as well as a Star Trek game where you had to shot Klingons and protect starbases ina 8x8 or so matrix.



if a mchine enables one to make more money or be more efficient than it's not necessarily a bad decision. The MBA retained about 2/3 to 1/2 of its value, so it's essentially a rental. Depending on how long its been owned it is pretty cheap on a per month basis. Tax deductions can also lower the costs. YMMV.
Don’t disagree but the poster isn’t a YouTube star and had made the decision the weight(savings) is more important than power.
 

cygy2k

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Don’t disagree but the poster isn’t a YouTube star and had made the decision the weight(savings) is more important than power.

Dude, give it a rest. If you want to argue financial advice, go to Ameritrade's forums. This is for people to talk about if they want, like, don't like, or want to return an Apple computer. Let's just assume the best in people and believe they can make the right financial decision for their situation.
 
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