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I'm buying it because apps I already use will benefit from more ram
Kick in the face when a new model does something the former model doesn’t? So Chevrolet kicked me in the face when the new model truck added better software and trailer towing cameras than the previous year model I bought? That’s called business. I don’t see Apple doing that but if they do, that’s business. Most people don’t upgrade iPads yearly. So countless 2018 and before iPad owners will be updating to the 2021. Apple isn’t just thinking about 2020 spec bump iPad owners. That’s certainly not a kick in the face. It’s a kick in the wallet. ?
I’m sitting here on my 11” Pro I have no idea what to do with a 12.9” XDR Pro other than NOT be able to hold it as comfortable. Not be able to fit in my smallest Daily tech bag.
BUT for the price with Trade in on a 2.5 year old iPad Pro $600 for an XDR 12.9” it’s positioned as a MUST GET. Because I have no idea what will happen down the line.
It’s like being offered a Ferrari for half the price if you trade in your Mustang
These threads are ten a penny here. For a bunch of tech enthusiasts it just seems downright weird to me. Suddenly,you all think ram is only for an os. You all, of course know that the os - like most software, has a minimum requirement and no real maximum ceiling.
You all know- at least when we’re taking about traditional computing platforms, that when we speak about ram we are almost exclusively talking about the need of ram for the software. Not one person has ever said, “ffs. That new Mac Pro can be ordered with 128gb of ram, macos doesn’t need that much! What is the point!”
Because it’s an iPad, suddenly the ram is surplus due to ipados.
What gives? Is it Just blind hatred leads you to believe that ram on one computer is worth more to apps than on another? I have never ever read a thread anywhere that complains of ram options on a traditional computer. Yet I have read many that complain the ram on an iPad was never enough. Now it is enough, what - it’s to much?
To the many people that are able to use the pro apps that exist on an iPad to their potential - more ram is, of course, a god send. Like on a regular computer. To the rest of you - well you don’t use the apps that require it. Great. Buy a regular iPad. The rest of us will continue to use our apps that in some cases overshadow the equivalent on traditional platforms, and benefit form the increased horsepower and increased ram ceiling.
So what do you wish for? A pro app to do infinitesimal calculus using vectorial projections? something ”pro” to estimate the tangential radiation of the alpha periphery? Some sophisticated Apple iPadOS 15 service which allows to predict the love live of pebbles in free fall when thrown in the direction of the surface of a lake?
You don’t need not an iPad Pro.
Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it.
Inside we both know what's been going on.
We know the game and we're gonna play it.
As @RevTEG pointed out… thats the business of Apple. He gave an example of car models, but I’d rather just stick with Apple. I don’t think it’s as drastic as iPadOS 15 won’t run on previous generation iPad Pros or the current iPad Airs.
But I recall back when Apple introduced SlideOver/SplitView, there was limitation on what some iPads could do. And imagine if theres some redesign multitask that takes advantage of iPads that carry more RAM, I could see that being a possibility. Whereas previous generation iPad Pros would be limited in multitasking windows.
This is part of the reason products cost more.
If you want it, buy it and keep it.
If your not sure don’t buy until you know its the product you want to buy and keep……………
While I agree that nothing will require 16GB of RAM, I do think they will announce something that would benefit from it. Perhaps it would be a “full” version of Final Cut Pro for iPad. Otherwise, what’s the point, other than to ”justify” a price increase of $200.
I doubt they will ever put macOS on the iPad Pro, but I could see them allowing apps from the Mac App Store to run on the iPad Air and Pro, similar to how developers can choose to make iOS/iPadOS apps available for M1 Macs. I’m guessing they would need to be native Apple Silicon apps (no Rosetta 2).
TBH, I don’t care about pro apps. I just want the ability to download apps off the web like macOS. Apps that are obviously notarized duh.
I don’t think that will ever happen. Stick with a mac.
I already have a Mac. I just think if we can download them off the web people are going to start ditching their pcs
The two most likely reasons for me to return the 1TB 12.9 that I ordered would be dead pixels or display uniformity issues. WWDC is not even on the list. I'm buying it to replace my old 1st gen 12.9" and I hope to, at the very least, use it for as long as I've used my 1st gen iPad Pro. I'm pretty confident the 1TB/16GB combo will allow me to do that.
Profits, Apple knows people will buy the top end, for no reason at all. Just look at all of the people buying 64GB of ram, just for future proofing. Apple does not have to do anything and people will still opt for the top end model
When it comes to programs and apps you can have ones that run on both 8gb and 16gb, but at 16gb it runs much smoother. Take Photoshop or any video editing software for example. Both are able to run on machines with just 8gb of ram but they run much better with 16gb.
Don't need an extra 8gb of ram for larger hard drives. I could see it just being Apple being lazy as they already have the chips made for MacBooks. May as well throw in an extra 8gb to incentivize selling the larger storage options.
That being said, I ordered the 1TB option and it's scheduled to arrive around WWDC... if there is nothing to take advantage of the 16gb then I will return it and probably get the 256gb. If Final Cut Pro becomes available, I'l be keeping the 1TB as both the extra storage and RAM will come in handy.
That's my point, anything Apple releases will be for the iPad, they'll not release an application that can only run on the highest tier iPad.
I'm not knocking the 16gb model, and it can have advantages, but whatever 16GB can run, the other iPads can run also, albeit slower
I think the real question is what one thinks is "earth shattering", and what someone else thinks is "meh".
Everyone's use case can be very different. What I find "earth shattering" may mean nothing to someone who doesn't use the iPad the same way I do. Doesn't make it any less "earth shattering", just means that WWDC may not have delivered what someone else needed, or someone was expecting more from iPad & should have gone with a Macbook instead.
I use apps that take advantage of more ram, to allow for more layers in my work. Right now 16GB is overkill, but that's not to say that will be the same case in the future. There's already a new version of Procreate on the way, and if it's capable of taking advantage of the extra RAM, the iPad has already been worth it for ME.
Everyone's use case can be very different. What I find "earth shattering" may mean nothing to someone who doesn't use the iPad the same way I do. Doesn't make it any less "earth shattering", just means that WWDC may not have delivered what someone else needed, or someone was expecting more from iPad & should have gone with a Macbook instead.
I use apps that take advantage of more ram, to allow for more layers in my work. Right now 16GB is overkill, but that's not to say that will be the same case in the future. There's already a new version of Procreate on the way, and if it's capable of taking advantage of the extra RAM, the iPad has already been worth it for ME.
Agreed, but the question is, will people return their iPads if Apple doesn't roll out something that can specifically take advantage of that ram. There seems to be a number of people who will return it, which tells me they currently don't have a need for that much ram.
What does Apple have to do with any third party apps though? Can’t they use the ram without Apple needing to ‘do’ anything?
Which I acknowledged, but there maybe enough that does make it worth it. Apple or anyone else isn't responsible for individuals who buy more than what they need. While those who may actually benefit ( like an improved Adobe suite, more powerful Lumafusion, or any number of audio apps ) will need an actual Pro unit. For the individuals that brought a Pro just because it's the high end unit, there probably isn't anything that could be released at WWDC that warrants keeping a Pro. To them if isn't an entertainment consumption app that adds Dolby Atmos to everything, an improved Adobe suite isn't going to mean a thing. While those wanting more, will be over the moon.
Obviously nothing, but then what developer would spend $$$ for a product and limit it to run only one one specific model? They could release an app that could take advantages but I'm a doubting thomas in seeing something specific for a 16GB/1TB iPad Pro. I can't see why a developer would purposely limit their sales
You are right but those programs I am running on my MBP 16" with64GB RAM and GPU 5600M not on IPP