Who's got a nice watch? Traditional watches only, no smartwatches please.

[The-Real-Deal82]

I'm curious could that be due to volume of pieces sold?

I'm not sure but I know he sells both in fairly large quantities (mostly secondhand). It hasn't put me off a Rolex but he does always tell me they are not as bulletproof as the perception they have based on his repair logs. He's a big fan of Omega in this regard. It might all depend on how you look after your watch too of course and really you should get the one that makes you happy.

 

[SchneiderMan]

I have been debating for months between a Tudor Black Bay Burgundy or a Omega Speedy Walter Schirra edition.

Thoughts on either? Pros? Cons?

Both have a great vintage vibe.

Not even open for debate I'd go for the Omega in a heartbeat.

 

[CooperBox]

Regarding purchase of Tudor v Omega Speedy, *imho* there's no contest. Omega Speedy without a doubt. Not only are the Omega Speedmasters so sturdy, they are a great company to deal with.
But the thing confusing me the most, is your choice of comparison. These two watches are as different as chalk & cheese - and I don't mean this from a quality standpoint.
The Tudor is a self-winding AUTOMATIC divers watch.
Not only is the Omega not a divers watch (seriously, don't let this watch anywhere near water), it has a mechanical SELF-WINDING movement, which you may fall in love with, or you may find it a pain. If you want a watch for everyday use, the Tudor is a wear and forget. Not so the Omega. It's a wear, wind, admire, etc.

If you really want an automatic divers watch, imho forget the Tudor. Look closely at the Omega Seamaster 300 chronometer, it's a winner - and (icing on the cake) most Seamasters hold their value well, as do all the Speedmasters (with the exception of the automatics).
** This is my personal opinion only - and I do know a tiny bit about watches......
The Tudor range of watches appear to be getting more and more popular, possibly due to more aggressive campaigning. The one you show, I believe has the ETA 2824 movement, which is certainly robust.
If you really want an automatic divers watch, and have the cash, in addition to the Seamaster, look around for a used (like new) IWC Aquatimer, or Rolex SeaDweller. Both high quality in the extreme. Watches you will never regret.

I have an interesting collection of Speedmasters and they are always exciting (and comfortable to wear) -with the exception of one or two of the vintage bracelets (which have a tendance to be 'hair pullers'). The Speedmaster is the one watch I would hate to loose.
This motivates me to photo a few of mine and post them here. Watch this space.

 

[Ulenspiegel]

I would opt for the Omega.
Tudor is a stepchild of Rolex.
"There's no substitute for an icon, but there's room for many great brands."

 

[AppleDApp]

I'm not sure but I know he sells both in fairly large quantities (mostly secondhand). It hasn't put me off a Rolex but he does always tell me they are not as bulletproof as the perception they have based on his repair logs. He's a big fan of Omega in this regard. It might all depend on how you look after your watch too of course and really you should get the one that makes you happy.

Not even open for debate I'd go for the Omega in a heartbeat.

I would opt for the Omega.
Tudor is a stepchild of Rolex.
"There's no substitute for an icon, but there's room for many great brands."

Regarding purchase of Tudor v Omega Speedy, *imho* there's no contest. Omega Speedy without a doubt. Not only are the Omega Speedmasters so sturdy, they are a great company to deal with.
But the thing confusing me the most, is your choice of comparison. These two watches are as different as chalk & cheese - and I don't mean this from a quality standpoint.
The Tudor is a self-winding AUTOMATIC divers watch.
Not only is the Omega not a divers watch (seriously, don't let this watch anywhere near water), it has a mechanical SELF-WINDING movement, which you may fall in love with, or you may find it a pain. If you want a watch for everyday use, the Tudor is a wear and forget. Not so the Omega. It's a wear, wind, admire, etc.

If you really want an automatic divers watch, imho forget the Tudor. Look closely at the Omega Seamaster 300 chronometer, it's a winner - and (icing on the cake) most Seamasters hold their value well, as do all the Speedmasters (with the exception of the automatics).
** This is my personal opinion only - and I do know a tiny bit about watches......
The Tudor range of watches appear to be getting more and more popular, possibly due to more aggressive campaigning. The one you show, I believe has the ETA 2824 movement, which is certainly robust.
If you really want an automatic divers watch, and have the cash, in addition to the Seamaster, look around for a used (like new) IWC Aquatimer, or Rolex SeaDweller. Both high quality in the extreme. Watches you will never regret.

I have an interesting collection of Speedmasters and they are always exciting (and comfortable to wear) -with the exception of one or two of the vintage bracelets (which have a tendance to be 'hair pullers'). The Speedmaster is the one watch I would hate to loose.
This motivates me to photo a few of mine and post them here. Watch this space.

It's clear everyone likes the Speedy. My main draw for both is that they both draw from vintage aesthetics; no crown guards but are made recently so I dont have to deal with the headache that was my last vintage watch. The Omega has great history as well which I enjoy. unfortunately I have never worn a Speedy so I don't know how it would fit and there is no Omega dealer in my area which makes trying/seeing one difficult. I have never worn a manual watch and like you say CooperBox I will either love it or hate it but the speedy seems like a watch I can hand down to someone when the time comes.

I had a brief chance to wear the Tudor at a local AD and despite it being bigger it didn't seem that way and felt great on the wrist. More info the fact that the Tudor is automatic is appealing in the sense that it is no fuss. The Omega Seamaster 300 lineup is very nice this year. Not a huge fan of the older all blue models.

Than there's the price too. the Tudor (new) is about half the price of the Speedy (new) Used prices are comparable.

CooperBox let's see your collection.

 

[SchneiderMan]

It's clear everyone likes the Speedy. My main draw for both is that they both draw from vintage aesthetics; no crown guards but are made recently so I dont have to deal with the headache that was my last vintage watch. The Omega has great history as well which I enjoy. unfortunately I have never worn a Speedy so I don't know how it would fit and there is no Omega dealer in my area which makes trying/seeing one difficult. I have never worn a manual watch and like you say CooperBox I will either love it or hate it but the speedy seems like a watch I can hand down to someone when the time comes.

I had a brief chance to wear the Tudor at a local AD and despite it being bigger it didn't seem that way and felt great on the wrist. More info the fact that the Tudor is automatic is appealing in the sense that it is no fuss. The Omega Seamaster 300 lineup is very nice this year. Not a huge fan of the older all blue models.

Than there's the price too. the Tudor (new) is about half the price of the Speedy (new) Used prices are comparable.

CooperBox let's see your collection.

That Tudor looks like a homeless person next to the Speedmaster. It looks cheap and like a copy of something else. That Speedmaster is iconic and with strong history and pedigree behind it.

 

[CooperBox]

I would opt for the Omega.
Tudor is a stepchild of Rolex.
"There's no substitute for an icon, but there's room for many great brands."

I'd go a little further and say that Tudor is the b... 'out of wedlock' stepchild of Rolex. I believe I'm right in saying that the case is still milled out of a solid block (like Rolex), but with a relatively cheap (albeit very capable) ETA movement. Rolex manufacture their own movements, and that of course is reflected in the price.

 

[AppleDApp]

That Tudor looks like a homeless person next to the Speedmaster. It looks cheap and like a copy of something else. That Speedmaster is iconic and with strong history and pedigree behind it.

I can't even XD. The Tudor is supposed to be inspired by a vintage Sub. I find it strange that the Tudor is seen as a bastard when the last release had so much praise on watch sites.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Tudor is a respectable brand in its own right with a rich history. I really like the Black Bay but given the choice of the two I picked the Speedy here. The prices are very different too. I don't get the hate for Tudor either? They are certainly better value for money and appeal to people who want a nice luxury watch without the brand association perhaps? A lot of people haven't heard of Tudor and that does appeal to me. I'd love a Grand Seiko too simply because you get an awesome luxury watch without the judgement.

 

[Ulenspiegel]

I can't even XD. The Tudor is supposed to be inspired by a vintage Sub. I find it strange that the Tudor is seen as a bastard when the last release had so much praise on watch sites.

Well, Tudor is still considered to be a Rolex sub-brand with Swiss ETA movements versus in-house made Rolex movements. In this particular case Tudor has a modified ETA 2824 movement. The latter's price is about 150 USD.

 

[CooperBox]

Tudor is a respectable brand in its own right with a rich history. I really like the Black Bay but given the choice of the two I picked the Speedy here. The prices are very different too. I don't get the hate for Tudor either? They are certainly better value for money and appeal to people who want a nice luxury watch without the brand association perhaps? A lot of people haven't heard of Tudor and that does appeal to me. I'd love a Grand Seiko too simply because you get an awesome luxury watch without the judgement.

Tudor is indeed a respectable brand, and I don't want to give the false impression that I hinted otherwise. I don't get the impression either that there is a hate feeling for Tudor.
This subject is I believe just a comparison with the Omega Speedmaster - for what it's worth.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

I ended up replacing my Speedy Pro I sold a few years ago. It arrived yesterday after much nail-biting due to the USPS not updating the tracker.

Gorgeous. Well wear.

I have been debating for months between a Tudor Black Bay Burgundy or a Omega Speedy Walter Schirra edition.

Thoughts on either? Pros? Cons?

Both have a great vintage vibe.

Personally, I prefer the Omega - mainly because I prefer the classic look of the watch.

Unlike some others, I have no quarrel with Tudors, but prefer the older, more classically styled models.

 

[AppleDApp]

Well that seems to settle it everybody I have surveyed prefers the Omega. The sales rep was trying to down play it I guess because he is a Rolex guy. The next concern is finding one in the flesh to try on and see for myself.

Thanks for the opinions guys & gals.

 

[althaur]

Given the opportunity, I would own the Tudor as well. They are two very different watches though.

Everyone I know who has purchased the Black Bay has had nothing but good things to say about it. Tudor has done a great job with some of their recent releases.

 

[CooperBox]

Here's one you may not be too familiar with.
A Blancpain Day/Night mechanical automatic. Purchased about 11 years ago. The case and bracelet are stainless steel. I fell in love with this watch after first reading a glowing review about the movement, then afterwards saw the watch itself, and 'pulled the trigger'.
The presentation box is a work of art in itself.

Apologies for not having set the hands 'correctly' at the ideal ten-past-ten position - this photo doesn't really do justice to the face. I'll try and do better with future watch photos.
I'd say this is a higher quality watch than a similar-priced Omega, but imho not so sturdy.
About 6 months outside the normal warranty period, I had a bracelet link work loose and fell out. The watch went with it unfortunately, down quite hard onto a tiled kitchen floor. The watch had stopped, and necessitated repair at the Swiss manufacturer, the cost of which made me jump a bit!

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Here's one you may not be too familiar with.
A Blancpain Day/Night mechanical automatic. Purchased about 11 years ago. The case and bracelet are stainless steel. I fell in love with this watch after first reading a glowing review about the movement, then afterwards saw the watch itself, and 'pulled the trigger'.
The presentation box is a work of art in itself.

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Apologies for not having set the hands 'correctly' at the ideal ten-past-ten position - this photo doesn't really do justice to the face. I'll try and do better with future watch photos.
I'd say this is a higher quality watch than a similar-priced Omega, but imho not so sturdy.
About 6 months outside the normal warranty period, I had a bracelet link work loose and fell out. The watch went with it unfortunately, down quite hard onto a tiled kitchen floor. The watch had stopped, and necessitated repair at the Swiss manufacturer, the cost of which made me jump a bit!

Very nice, and thanks for sharing.

 

[zagato27]

Just got my Seiko SBDC007/Shogun in the mail today. It took the long way from Australia with a rather lengthy stop in Customs in NYC and finally...finally here to Georgia. Sorry no wrist or glamour shot at the moment. I'll see what I can do a bit later. Did I mention that it's titanium? It's sooooooo light, almost like not wearing a watch.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Just got my Seiko SBDC007/Shogun in the mail today. It took the long way from Australia with a rather lengthy stop in Customs in NYC and finally...finally here to Georgia. Sorry no wrist or glamour shot at the moment. I'll see what I can do a bit later. Did I mention that it's titanium? It's sooooooo light, almost like not wearing a watch.

Enjoy it and, above all, enjoy wearing it. What does titanium feel like on your wrist?

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

The Shogun is one of my personal faves. Enjoy it, it's a beaut

I'd love to see more pics when you have time please.

 

[Dowjohnny]

I am also contemplating the Tudor at the moment Looked into Omega as well (seamaster 300) but not sure if i can justify the pricetag, on the other hand the omega watches are superb as discussed in the latest posts

 

[Ulenspiegel]

Here's one you may not be too familiar with.
A Blancpain Day/Night mechanical automatic. Purchased about 11 years ago. The case and bracelet are stainless steel. I fell in love with this watch after first reading a glowing review about the movement, then afterwards saw the watch itself, and 'pulled the trigger'.
The presentation box is a work of art in itself.

View attachment 611291

Apologies for not having set the hands 'correctly' at the ideal ten-past-ten position - this photo doesn't really do justice to the face. I'll try and do better with future watch photos.
I'd say this is a higher quality watch than a similar-priced Omega, but imho not so sturdy.
About 6 months outside the normal warranty period, I had a bracelet link work loose and fell out. The watch went with it unfortunately, down quite hard onto a tiled kitchen floor. The watch had stopped, and necessitated repair at the Swiss manufacturer, the cost of which made me jump a bit!

It is a masterpiece! So beautiful.

 

[OllyW]

I am also contemplating the Tudor at the moment Looked into Omega as well (seamaster 300) but not sure if i can justify the pricetag, on the other hand the omega watches are superb as discussed in the latest posts

I think Tudor have hit the spot with the Black Bay Black. I enquired about it the other day and the jeweller had already got 8 customers on the waiting list.

 

[zagato27]

Enjoy it and, above all, enjoy wearing it. What does titanium feel like on your wrist?

The Shogun is the the same size as my Seiko BFK(SKA371) but the dial seems larger. The titanium is a shade darker than stainless but you'd have to look at both side by side to tell. The bracelet is not as wide as the BFK and has a different pattern and is not as thick. This watch is so comfortable to wear! Feels silky smooth on the wrist. As I said before, it's like you're not wearing a watch. The difference in weight between the BFK and the Shogun is just incredible. A person on a watch forum said that the watch feels like a toy. Yeah, it kinda does but it's no toy. The build quality is impressive. Perhaps not the highest end movement but it'll do. I had been looking at a Steinhart titanium that had a ceramic bezel and it was luminous to boot. Hated the hands though. Could have bought it new for less than this one from a Watchseek member but this one just called to me. My one and only criticism is the crown position, 3 o'clock. I'd prefer it at 4 but I can live with it. This one is a keeper. If I do get another watch I'm looking at titanium first.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

The Shogun is the the same size as my Seiko BFK(SKA371) but the dial seems larger. The titanium is a shade darker than stainless but you'd have to look at both side by side to tell. The bracelet is not as wide as the BFK and has a different pattern and is not as thick. This watch is so comfortable to wear! Feels silky smooth on the wrist. As I said before, it's like you're not wearing a watch. The difference in weight between the BFK and the Shogun is just incredible. A person on a watch forum said that the watch feels like a toy. Yeah, it kinda does but it's no toy. The build quality is impressive. Perhaps not the highest end movement but it'll do. I had been looking at a Steinhart titanium that had a ceramic bezel and it was luminous to boot. Hated the hands though. Could have bought it new for less than this one from a Watchseek member but this one just called to me. My one and only criticism is the crown position, 3 o'clock. I'd prefer it at 4 but I can live with it. This one is a keeper. If I do get another watch I'm looking at titanium first.

Great and detailed response - thanks a lot for taking the time and trouble to post it; I have never seen or worn a titanium band, and so was curious to see what it would feel like. Enjoy it.

 

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