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Who's got a nice watch? Traditional watches only, no smartwatches please.
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Indeed lol.That's not a very good fake.
The first thing I noticed was push buttons instead of mechanical crowns too. A quick Google also shows that Patek Philippe do not make cheaper versions of such an expensive watch as it would undermine the model at the higher end. Without going into too much detail, font spacing, hour markers and chronograph dials look suspect on other pieces too.
They did also make the gold Ref. 5002 which doesn't command quite as high a price as the more desirable platinum 5002P but they would still be expected to go for in excess of $1 million at auction.
Ooh this is awkward....
Well, there is awkward. And there is awkward.
One of the things I do not understand on this thread is - and you, @MacRy, as a photographer, will appreciate this - is the plethora of poorly taken photographs of expensive - or, good quality - watches.
Possession of an iPhone, or some device that can shoot easily - does not necessarily serve to make someone a good photographer; a surprising number of recent pictures of watches - especially pictures of some of really good watches - or, purportedly, good watches (and yes, @syedrizvi21, your posts are what caught my eye) - have been horribly out of focus.
NATO straps are very convenient the clean easily and your generally able to get a better fit.I recently come to appreciate how comfortable NATO straps are on the wrist, especially since I badly fractured my left wrist last September and have been wearing my watches on my right wrist which took a surprising long time to get used to.
I caved in this week and bought a nice quality black NATO for my Junghans with matching PVD coated buckle and hoops. The previous leather strap looked great but it wasn't as comfortable as my other watches with NATOs so it hadn't been getting much wear time.
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While finding out my trusty Bergeon Spring Bar Removing Tool I found the box for the Jungans and discovered the receipt had been hidden away inside the packaging. It seems the NATO is a late 18th birthday present as I purchased the watch on the 12th February 1998, I don't think the extended warranty papers are much use now though.
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The product description seems pretty futuristic for the time which is probably what attracted me to the watch, though it's old hat compared to the mini-computers on a strap which the nerds of today are sporting.
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You'd think they'd take several pictures until they got a good shot. At least that's what most photographers [or people with common sense] do.
Well, I wear glasses, and a large image that is blurred and out of focus, - so out of focus that I cannot see the features of the watch clearly, let alone read its make, - invariably posted by a proud owner, serves to really irk me. I want to see the watch, - and possibly post a comment, often complimentary - and not have to guess what make the watch actually is, and what time the watch is telling.
Sometimes, too, a poorly taken photograph will also include a nice glare, or a reflection of the flash light on the watch face which obliterates everything in sight.
And then, there are the plethora of hairy wrists, but I will pass with averted eyes, over those.
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You were complaining you wanted to see the details.
You were complaining you wanted to see the details.
Well, yes, I was, this is true, but a nice shirt sleeve cuff, or a good quality jacket will set off the watch nicely.
Are they comfortable?
I have always worn leather straps, precisely because I think they look elegant, and they tend to be comfortable to wear (except in a sustained spell of really warm weather).
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Those who claim to be photographers who also own nice watches tend to have massive amounts of stellar photos of said watches. Even with my humble collection of Japanese, Russian and a Swiss or two, I have quite the catalogue of images. One would think that with a collection of Pateks, Tags, Montblancs and an IWC, along with a a nice 5D Mark iii that there would be some nicer shots.
I'm probably going to get told off for the crappy quality of my photos… but here are my two daily wear watches.
H Stone, Leeds
Sterling silver case, hallmarked for Chester, 1900
Hangs from a Sterling silver Albert chain, Birmingham 1884.
Still ticking along beautifully. A bit dependent on the climate — runs a minute or so a day slower or faster depending on if it is cold or wet.
[doublepost=1456139430][/doublepost]Zenith Chronograph, 1934
Gold filled case.
This runs like you would expect… just superbly.
[doublepost=1456139560][/doublepost]They hang from a 19th C. German watch stand for two.
H. Stone about 59mm across and the Zenith a svelte 52mm.
H Stone, Leeds
Sterling silver case, hallmarked for Chester, 1900
Hangs from a Sterling silver Albert chain, Birmingham 1884.
Still ticking along beautifully. A bit dependent on the climate — runs a minute or so a day slower or faster depending on if it is cold or wet.
[doublepost=1456139430][/doublepost]Zenith Chronograph, 1934
Gold filled case.
This runs like you would expect… just superbly.
[doublepost=1456139560][/doublepost]They hang from a 19th C. German watch stand for two.
H. Stone about 59mm across and the Zenith a svelte 52mm.
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More so than a rubber dive strap..
They're not appropriate for everything obviously but if you going to be out in the dirt or diving in salt water they're nice.
Fair enough, and thanks for taking the trouble to reply to my query.
No, a rubber dive strap wold not be on my list of desirable watch straps.
I recently come to appreciate how comfortable NATO straps are on the wrist, especially since I badly fractured my left wrist last September and have been wearing my watches on my right wrist which took a surprising long time to get used to.
I caved in this week and bought a nice quality black NATO for my Junghans with matching PVD coated buckle and hoops. The previous leather strap looked great but it wasn't as comfortable as my other watches with NATOs so it hadn't been getting much wear time.
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While finding out my trusty Bergeon Spring Bar Removing Tool I found the box for the Jungans and discovered the receipt had been hidden away inside the packaging. It seems the NATO is a late 18th birthday present as I purchased the watch on the 12th February 1998, I don't think the extended warranty papers are much use now though.
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The product description seems pretty futuristic for the time which is probably what attracted me to the watch, though it's old hat compared to the mini-computers on a strap which the nerds of today are sporting.
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I was once tempted by a Junghans radio-controlled sloar.
How has it performed in general? Reliable? Has it required much (any?) maintenance since '98, and is a daily wearer or wrist-time shared with others?
I bet you wouldn't get a similar Junghans model today for £300 (or would you)?
I don't want to tempt fate but it has been very reliable. Shortly after I bought it there was a problem with intermittent radio synchronisation which was fixed under warranty but that was the last time it needed any maintenance. It still charges from daylight and is also totally scratch free after 18 years of use.
It was my main 'best' watch for many years but it now alternates with my Christopher Ward and Seiko automatics and an inexpensive titanium Lorus quartz I wear while mountain biking. It hadn't seen a lot of wrist-time over the last six months as I'd found it uncomfortable on my right wrist but changing to the NATO strap has fixed that so I've been wearing for most of the week end and will now wear it a lot more.
The modern day equivalent watch from Junghans costs over £1,000.
Hi,
I'm a little confused here. The PF Sky Moon Tourbillon is indeed a magnificent watch. Indeed many may argue that it's the best watch in the world (although I believe that accolade could be shared with a Lange & Sohn).
However, the glowing review I recall reading on the 5002P showed that it did not have a plain plunger either side of a 3 o'clock crown. Rather a crown and a lower winder for the inner dial on the r/h side. Unless you have a prototype which I believe is highly unlikely.........
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Hi,
Not sure what you mean here. I believe there was only one PF 5002P which was the model with the platinum case. The other suffix of the identical 5002 model was 'J' indicating yellow gold.
As for the price, it's a pretty well-known fact that almost nobody today buying a high-end watch (especially one as magnificent as the 5002) pays list or silly dealer's prices of up to $1.7m. Negotiating on a watch such as this would surely bring it down to below the figure you quote. Can we assume that your's was LNIB?
You show a photo of another watch which really intrigues me. It's the IWC in photo 2 of your post #3620. I've always loved the IWC range, and especially the Flieger Pilots Chronograph models which your's somewhat resembles. However I've never seen one in that model range (even a special edition) with what looks like a power reserve at the 9:30 position. As a keen IWC fan I'd be very interested to know what the model number is and the year.
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Don't worry, blurry pictures irk everyone, regardless of eyesight quality. You're not alone. Can't help you much with the hairy wrists though.
I'm probably going to get told off for the crappy quality of my photos… but here are my two daily wear watches.
H Stone, Leeds
Sterling silver case, hallmarked for Chester, 1900
Hangs from a Sterling silver Albert chain, Birmingham 1884.
Still ticking along beautifully. A bit dependent on the climate — runs a minute or so a day slower or faster depending on if it is cold or wet.
[doublepost=1456139430][/doublepost]Zenith Chronograph, 1934
Gold filled case.
This runs like you would expect… just superbly.
[doublepost=1456139560][/doublepost]They hang from a 19th C. German watch stand for two.
H. Stone about 59mm across and the Zenith a svelte 52mm.
Nice collection. If I had that Zenith I'd certain wear it (or should that read 'carry' it) fairly often.
Zenith is a make that is often relatively unknown to many casual watch lovers. I remember reading in 2000 an article on the 'Big Five' automatic chronograph movements, and a comparative test of each. The only one given a 5-star rating at the time was Zenith. That got me saving hard, and it was a year or two later that I became a proud Zenith owner with an El Primero cal.400 movement beating within. I will take some 'good' (wink-wink, nod-nod) photos of the watch asap and post them here.
While neither of these particularly belong here here's a photo of the NATO strapped watch that I wore for most of my time in the Army:
[doublepost=1456168065][/doublepost]Here is the replacement for my Seiko Dive / daily wear that has been around the world and in three oceans and various other smaller bodies of water. Yes it's quartz but it's better made than the Seiko at the same price point ($300ish) because of it. It has a Hirsch natural rubber strap that helps but I still gets the salt water and chlorine irritation that you don't get with a NATO.
[doublepost=1456168065][/doublepost]Here is the replacement for my Seiko Dive / daily wear that has been around the world and in three oceans and various other smaller bodies of water. Yes it's quartz but it's better made than the Seiko at the same price point ($300ish) because of it. It has a Hirsch natural rubber strap that helps but I still gets the salt water and chlorine irritation that you don't get with a NATO.
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