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mrex

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Last month I bought an iPod just for ... Apple is simply better.

lucky you didnt bought iphone or ipad /with first ios8 releases :D could have been abit differend opinion...

but, ipod is simply better than what? ipod compared to ...?
 

antony73

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Do I really need to justify in detail why I say Apple is better, here on an Apple forum?!

I'm well aware of all Androids strengths. I did use iSync and easysync also. I've been a dedicated Windows and Linux user for a long time. I just want simplicity now.

Why list and endless list of Android features versus Apple's?

I was simply sharing an overall statement that 'I' believe Apple to be better. I've been playing with my family's MacBooks and iPads also recently, and I have my opinion.
 

mrex

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Do I really need to justify in detail why I say Apple is better, here on an Apple forum?! ... Why list and endless list of Android features versus Apple's?

if you didnt notice... 1) this is a forum for alternatives and 2) the topic was "why do you prefer android?"
 
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cableguy619

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Why can't you let go of Android and move to iPhone.

To each is their own for God sake.

Preference and choice why keep debating.

Lol it's petty because we all have our own needs, our own vices, some like a clean do it as it should function others like to go crazy and have the will to fully customize.

What makes one phone better than the other? The user ability for that specific person. Simple as that. They are all great phones and if anyone think theirs is better than another than so be it.

Just think back to the original brick cell phones. They were awesome because who would have thought we would have wireless cell phones. Now look at them now.

Be happy you have a tool or device that works well for you because bottom line it's how the end users uses their phone that makes it better than the other.

Yes their are parts, glass, etc but how you use it and it's worth to you is why it is better than the other. If it works for you it may not work for the other but that is for them to find out.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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To each is their own for God sake.

Preference and choice why keep debating.

Lol it's petty because we all have our own needs, our own vices, some like a clean do it as it should function others like to go crazy and have the will to fully customize.

What makes one phone better than the other? The user ability for that specific person. Simple as that. They are all great phones and if anyone think theirs is better than another than so be it.

Just think back to the original brick cell phones. They were awesome because who would have thought we would have wireless cell phones. Now look at them now.

Be happy you have a tool or device that works well for you because bottom line it's how the end users uses their phone that makes it better than the other.

Yes their are parts, glass, etc but how you use it and it's worth to you is why it is better than the other. If it works for you it may not work for the other but that is for them to find out.

You sound like a Prius owner.
 

z.zbinden94

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Half your reasons are able to be done on an IPhone. But for me, it's customization. I like being able to have my apps how I want them. ie, not having an L like shape cut you don't have enough apps for the page. I like being able to change the way the phone works more so than the iPhone. And I also like how the Ui is. For me I'm tech savey so simplicity is...boring. I like having more control over my phone. And who wants their phone screen to look just like everyone elses? Android for life
 

mib1800

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Half your reasons are able to be done on an IPhone. But for me, it's customization. I like being able to have my apps how I want them. ie, not having an L like shape cut you don't have enough apps for the page. I like being able to change the way the phone works more so than the iPhone. And I also like how the Ui is. For me I'm tech savey so simplicity is...boring. I like having more control over my phone. And who wants their phone screen to look just like everyone elses? Android for life

So true. There is nothing to be excited about iphone homescreen. After so many years remaining the same...the only word to describe it, is boring (to the power N). Some iphone purists will jump straight down my throat for this statement. They would say simple and easy is better. For me, wasting time fiddling and customizing the phone add more fun to owning the phone. The only fun thing to do with an iphone is to move icons around the home screen or just stare at the casing :) .
 

mercuryjones

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So true. There is nothing to be excited about iphone homescreen. After so many years remaining the same...the only word to describe it, is boring (to the power N). Some iphone purists will jump straight down my throat for this statement. They would say simple and easy is better. For me, wasting time fiddling and customizing the phone add more fun to owning the phone. The only fun thing to do with an iphone is to move icons around the home screen or just stare at the casing :) .
And for some, actually using the phone is the big sell. I gave up on the fiddling and customization a long time ago, when I realized that I just wanted the phone to work for me, and not the other way around.
 

gotluck

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And for some, actually using the phone is the big sell. I gave up on the fiddling and customization a long time ago, when I realized that I just wanted the phone to work for me, and not the other way around.

There's nothing stopping that approach on android

I refuse to agree with the ' options are bad' mantra, just don't use them. Don't make everyone else suffer by removing features

Catering to the lowest common denominator sucks
 
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mrex

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And for some, actually using the phone is the big sell. I gave up on the fiddling and customization a long time ago, when I realized that I just wanted the phone to work for me, and not the other way around.

does this exclude android? if so, why?
 

beosound3200

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There's nothing stopping that approach on android

I refuse to agree with the ' options are bad' mantra, just don't use them. Don't make everyone else suffer by removing features

Catering to the lowest common denominator sucks

maybe those 'options' take precious coding time better used for something else? theres a thousand no's to every yes, always keep that in mind
 

mercuryjones

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does this exclude android? if so, why?
It doesn't. However, if you talk up the fiddling and customization of Android as the big selling factor, then that's what I'm speaking to. Take that away, and then what's the big sell over iOS? For me, nothing. Plus, the integration between my iPhone, AppleTV and Macbook Pro are a big factor as well.
 

gotluck

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maybe those 'options' take precious coding time better used for something else? theres a thousand no's to every yes, always keep that in mind

That's true, but apple has essentially unlimited resources

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It doesn't. However, if you talk up the fiddling and customization of Android as the big selling factor, then that's what I'm speaking to. Take that away, and then what's the big sell over iOS? For me, nothing. Plus, the integration between my iPhone, AppleTV and Macbook Pro are a big factor as well.

For me, integration with nonapple systems is a big selling point. Wonder what new feature next year will require the purchase of the full apple lineup that I will miss out on again :(
 

mercuryjones

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That's true, but apple has essentially unlimited resources

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For me, integration with nonapple systems is a big selling point. Wonder what new feature next year will require the purchase of the full apple lineup that I will miss out on again :(
No one said you had to buy the full lineup. I chose to. And I'm glad I did. I'm not trying to convince you to do the same. Just stating my opinion.
 

mrex

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It doesn't. However, if you talk up the fiddling and customization of Android as the big selling factor, then that's what I'm speaking to. Take that away, and then what's the big sell over iOS? For me, nothing.

when taking off the possibility of customization, you can do the same with both, so it is more like a personal desicion than "technical issue".

Plus, the integration between my iPhone, AppleTV and Macbook Pro are a big factor as well.

may i ask what is the integration between them that you need or cant do crossplatformly?

i do stuff crossplatformly between devices win/osx/android/ios (right now i dont have an ios device though).. even my android tv box (minix neo x8h) allows me mirroring my mbpr.. if i ever have had problems, they are always related to apple and what apple wants or allows... e.g. i couldnt use my ipad as a bt keyboard for my tvbox because of apples stupid restrictions...
 

mercuryjones

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when taking off the possibility of customization, you can do the same with both, so it is more like a personal desicion than "technical issue".



may i ask what is the integration between them that you need or cant do crossplatformly?

i do stuff crossplatformly between devices win/osx/android/ios (right now i dont have an ios device though).. even my android tv box (minix neo x8h) allows me mirroring my mbpr.. if i ever have had problems, they are always related to apple and what apple wants or allows... e.g. i couldnt use my ipad as a bt keyboard for my tvbox because of apples stupid restrictions...
Continuity and Airplay are the biggest ones right now. I also have an original Google TV, but it never really got used, just because it was so buggy and seemed like a half finished product.
 

sidewinder3000

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OK, we have heard too many times before that iphone lovers would stand and die for what are essentially the following:- "apple ecosystem", "ios simplicity and the it just works tagline", "user experience" and "design and built quality".

Of course, we Android users sometimes can't really understand/appreciate the above vague concepts. Maybe Android users tend to be more practical and really want to see tangible benefits compared to the iphone camp.

Can we maybe hear from members here why YOU can't give up on Android. Note the "YOU" here (i.e. reasons that stopped you from moving to iphone)

I start with mine (using Note4). For me, it is just mostly one word to describe - Automation. I just can't do without the following (in order of importance).

-have the phone auto switch to vibrate mode according to appointment entries in calendar. And auto switch back to normal mode after that. Also during meeting only allow calls from important callers. Other callers sms is reverted. It sends shiver down my spine that if I use iphone I have to remember everytime to flip the mute switch before and after every appointment.

-I pick up my wife from work regularly so phone automatically sms her to be ready when my car is near pickup point. No need to fiddle with the phone while driving.

-have phone re-alert with sound regularly if there are unread sms or missed calls from important persons only.

-after midnight auto off mobile data so no notifications from any ip-based networks. Dont want the screen to light-up at random.

-one tap sms shortcuts to easily sent predefined messages (like - call me, waiting now etc) to people close to you. I just pull down notification and tap an icon and it is done. Just can't find anything like this on ios without jailbreak.

-Android BACK button. Not the basic and simplistic iphone back button. Android back button is global which retraces your screen/page/window you opened (which can span multiple apps). When I use the iphone, it is so slow/tedious/awkward using the task manager to go back the navigation tree.


I am also very reluctant to give up the following too:-

-nfc sticker on my car phone cradle which activates driving mode, have BT turned on and activate music player and google map.

- phone will auto send best wishes Sms to people having birthdays or anniversaries.

- voice calls recording.

- direct USB drive support as well as usb-host allowing me directly plug in to phone to play video. I think on ihone it is just ridiculously tedious. Load to icloud and then stream it back or use the one master itunes PC which takes ridiculous time to convert the file. Too much fuss when I just want to watch the video once and discard.

-auto wall paper change.

-infra-red remote - little thing that's so handy.

-super AMOLED screen. Not matter what expert screen test said, I still like the vibrancy and contrast and viewing angle.
Dude. As a lifelong Apple user and enthusiast, I really appreciate your thorough and thoughtful list. You make a strong case, especially for people who love fiddling around and customizing things. Lots of cool stuff on their that I definitely covet, like the auto switch to vibrate mode, re-alert for VIPs, infra-red, video replay via USB, etc.

There are a few items on your list where you may not be aware that Apple does currently cover in some form. I'm hoping these features will become more robust in the future, as they often do. These include: having wife notified when I am close (Find Friends), no notificstions after certain time (Night Shift), and one-tap SMS shortcuts (Apple Watch).

As awesome as your list was, there were a few items that were downright creepy:
1. Recording phone calls. Unless there were built-in privacy features that guaranteed the other party was aware that they were being recorded (like a robot voice at the beginning that verbally asks the other party if they are willing to be recorded and uses their vocal profile to verify that the person who gave approval is the one being recorded) then this makes it way too easy for people to get weird.
2. Auto-sending birthday/anniversary greetings. Ew. I'd certainly love to be able to auto send other types of messages based on the time/date. But automated birthday greetings? Ew.

Overall, it sounds like there are lots of cool tricks I wish my phone could do. I am pretty sure there is an equally robust list of iPhone/Apple exclusive features, but unfortunately I can't create a list to share with you since I'm not that familiar enough with the nuts & bolts of Android to do a true compare and contrast. What I do know for certain is that I generally love my iPhone, iPad, Mac, Apple Watch and Apple TV, and how well they all work on their own and with each other.
 

Tig Bitties

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I'm open minded to getting an iPhone, but the locked down, zero customization, boring plane Jane feel of the phone is a deal breaker. For Christ's sake you can't even move the frigging app icons to anywhere on the screen, like really WOW.

iTunes sucks.

Can't plug the iPhone into a computer to use as a drive. You can't even see the file system.

Default apps can't be changed.

Laundry list of gripes.

Apple needs to allow themes like Samsung Galaxy phones. Allow icon packs.
 
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Mildredop

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OK, we have heard too many times before that iphone lovers would stand and die for what are essentially the following:- "apple ecosystem", "ios simplicity and the it just works tagline", "user experience" and "design and built quality".

That was a long post - I didn't read much more I'm afraid.

In answer to the title, the main ones are notification light, icons in the toolbar and the back button.

But a huge number of other things keep me with Android:
- Not being tethered to lightning
- Settings being within the app, not in its own app
- Being able to set default apps

I'm boring myself. There's more, but that's enough.
 
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