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Zaft

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I phones too me workers lyrics well but are kinda boring.

My issues are the following with Apple.

1. ITunes, I dislike having to use this to put a movie or mp3 on my phone, also only mp4 or mp3 plays. Some of my files don't play and have to be converted over for iTunes to read it.

2. No YouTube downloader- some say it's a work around but I still don't like it.

3. No fast charging

4. I couldn't afford the bigger plus so I got the 6s and it's too small.

5. SwiftKey sucks on ios

Overall it's just a boring as phone, no apps like hide it pro to creep no app lock apps.

Everything is money

On the bright side ios apps are far superior the eBay app is great.

And no file system can't download from Dropbox and play on my phone.
How is that an issue with apple ?
 

KillaMac

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This is a myth. I never had the "slow down over time" experience on any Android phone, even back in the Gingerbread days.

I've owned many android phones including my s7 edge. And it lags so bad and is slow it's ridiculous. Hate the phone now.


It's not a myth it's a fact. I'm on Android forums and central and many topics daily about it.
 

nviz22

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Still holding onto a Nexus 5X right now and looking to sell. I use my iPhone 7+ exclusively right now. Moving to iOS full time again gives me more peace of mind because the S7's software limits me to Apple or Google devices because I cannot take carrier bloat and untimely updates anymore. Until Apple shows me bad software experiences, I will stick with Apple including the 2017 model. Anticipating a big update because we are so due for one. That being said, I am rooting for Samsung to emulate the iOS experience with a clean version of Android, no carrier bloat, and timely updates. No more Snapdragon either because their processors woefully underperform compared to Apple's A Series processors and Exynos processors.
 

belvdr

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I'm back and forth. I like Android widgets, especially weather and stocks, but getting updates can be a pain when vendors don't push them out for your model. On the other hand, my iOS experience is mostly smooth and stable, but cumbersome at times.
 

Klyster

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I've owned many android phones including my s7 edge. And it lags so bad and is slow it's ridiculous. Hate the phone now.


It's not a myth it's a fact. I'm on Android forums and central and many topics daily about it.

Sure it is, it must be because you keep repeating it.
I know quite a few people with S7's smf not one of them moans about how slow it is...in fact most comment on how great it is.
So it's not actually a fact at all, you're the only person here asserting such and there's a heap of people here who own s7's too.

Facts are things that can be verified, kind of of like the definition of a smartwatch, someone can say "that's not a smartwatch" but you can go and check the definition, show it too them and they shut the hell up because it's verified, it's a fact.

Opinion doesn't equal fact.

The android/s7 lag is a myth until verified.
 

KillaMac

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Sure it is, it must be because you keep repeating it.
I know quite a few people with S7's smf not one of them moans about how slow it is...in fact most comment on how great it is.
So it's not actually a fact at all, you're the only person here asserting such and there's a heap of people here who own s7's too.

Facts are things that can be verified, kind of of like the definition of a smartwatch, someone can say "that's not a smartwatch" but you can go and check the definition, show it too them and they shut the hell up because it's verified, it's a fact.

Opinion doesn't equal fact.

The android/s7 lag is a myth until verified.

No sir, its a fact. If you actually open your eyes and go look at the forum you will see tons of topics about it. Here is just one from a quick search. Do you see anyone saying no way, it doesn't happen. No. Many agree it's known.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge/750379-lag-city-new-s7-edge.html#post5587200

You as several people refuse to believe it, but I can even video it later how bad it is. But there are videos already all over youtube that prove it.

It isn't an opinion when it's a known issue. It's a fact that you are too blinded to believe.
 

I7guy

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Sure it is, it must be because you keep repeating it.
I know quite a few people with S7's smf not one of them moans about how slow it is...in fact most comment on how great it is.
So it's not actually a fact at all, you're the only person here asserting such and there's a heap of people here who own s7's too.

Facts are things that can be verified, kind of of like the definition of a smartwatch, someone can say "that's not a smartwatch" but you can go and check the definition, show it too them and they shut the hell up because it's verified, it's a fact.

Opinion doesn't equal fact.

The android/s7 lag is a myth until verified.
So if opinion doesn't equal fact that must mean the iOS update slowdown is a myth until verified. I suppose we can use Youtube to each find our cases but I've seen it on Youtube.
 

Klyster

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fact
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No sir, its a fact. If you actually open your eyes and go look at the forum you will see tons of topics about it. Here is just one from a quick search. Do you see anyone saying no way, it doesn't happen. No. Many agree it's known.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge/750379-lag-city-new-s7-edge.html#post5587200

You as several people refuse to believe it, but I can even video it later how bad it is. But there are videos already all over youtube that prove it.

It isn't an opinion when it's a known issue. It's a fact that you are too blinded to believe.
Cool, okay I'll accept it lags when you accept the iPhone lags too

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-7-lag.2004421/


I read it on a forum, it's a fact.....Jeez...

You name a phone that you think has no lag and I'll find "facts" proving it does. Go on.
 
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KillaMac

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Cool, okay I'll accept it lags when you accept the iPhone lags too

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-7-lag.2004421/


I read it on a forum, it's a fact.....Jeez...

You name a phone that you think has no lag and I'll find "facts" proving it does. Go on.

It's a fact many people are having lag issues. You can't deny that as its all over the forums. I can say say I've had multiple phones that don't lag. Good luck trying to prove the S7 Edge has no lag either. lol!

1. iPhone 7 plus. Definitely no lag at all. Very fast.
2. Note 7, never saw it while I had it for the short time.
3. HTC M8, no Lag.

You make it very obvious that you are blind and refuse to believe the facts. You are one of those type that say I've never had lag. Maybe you don't have a clue what lag is? lol.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fact
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Cool, okay I'll accept it lags when you accept the iPhone lags too

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-7-lag.2004421/


I read it on a forum, it's a fact.....Jeez...

You name a phone that you think has no lag and I'll find "facts" proving it does. Go on.


Here you go. Articles all over the web. Facts....it has known issues you refuse to believe.

http://thedroidguy.com/2016/10/sams...zes-lags-slows-turns-off-unexpectedly-1057711

"Among the most common problems #Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (#GalaxyS7Edge, #S7Edge) owners may encounter are random freezes and lags, system slow down, and unexpected reboots or shutdowns. "

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/galaxy-s7-edge-problems/

http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-observations-680173/

http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/help/bad-lag-typing-using-s7-edge-t3373616

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/05/05/the-5-worst-things-about-the-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge/

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/7-annoying-galaxy-s7-edge-181918667.html
 
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Twixt

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iTunes is one of top reasons why I will never go back to apple. It is SO annoying to sync one or several phones whereas a simple drag and drop should be the rule.
Flexibility is another essential argument, I have organized my files the way I want with android
On top of that, value for money is just horrible with apple's products
 

Klyster

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It's a fact many people are having lag issues. You can't deny that as its all over the forums. I can say say I've had multiple phones that don't lag. Good luck trying to prove the S7 Edge has no lag either. lol!

1. iPhone 7 plus. Definitely no lag at all. Very fast.
2. Note 7, never saw it while I had it for the short time.
3. HTC M8, no Lag.

You make it very obvious that you are blind and refuse to believe the facts. You are one of those type that say I've never had lag. Maybe you don't have a clue what lag is? lol.
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Here you go. Articles all over the web. Facts....it has known
Among the most common problems #Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (#GalaxyS7Edge, #S7Edge) owners may encounter are random freezes and lags, system slow down, and unexpected reboots or shutdowns. "

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/galaxy-s7-edge-problems/

http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-observations-680173/

http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/help/bad-lag-typing-using-s7-edge-t3373616

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/05/05/the-5-worst-things-about-the-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge/

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/7-annoying-galaxy-s7-edge-181918667.html

https://www.google.co.nz/search?ie=...WKaiFqLr8Af444iIDQ#q=iphone+7+plus+lag+issues

https://www.google.co.nz/search?ie=...tc+m8+lag&gfe_rd=cr&ei=p2ZLWIffIa7r8AfWpKjoCw

whatever Mr double standards.

If the s7 is laggy, so is the iPhone 7 plus, the same method of proof stands....

But you'll disagree til the cows come home so whatever....

For the record, I don't actually care or know if the plus lags but my S7 edge is perfect, how's yours?
Oh that's right, it's a lag fest, worst you've ever had blah blah blah... which leads me to believe you don't have or have had one.
I think you are a liar.
 
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Radon87000

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fact
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Cool, okay I'll accept it lags when you accept the iPhone lags too

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-7-lag.2004421/


I read it on a forum, it's a fact.....Jeez...

You name a phone that you think has no lag and I'll find "facts" proving it does. Go on.

My observation regarding iPhones is that iPhones start being lag city on the next major iOS update other than the one the phone shipped with while on the S7 whilst it may have small lags here and there it doesn't get worse with the next major Android version so in the long run Android ends up smoother than iOS . Right now my 7 Plus has zero lags but I have no doubt Once I upgrade to iOS 11 lags will start cropping up . Apple stops optimising for older devices and just takes the version developed for their current flagship and backports it to older devices stripping features along the way whereas Google's Android is optimised from the point of view of all Android devices as they are primarily a software company while Samsung can't mess with the software to intentionally slow it down so planned obsolescence just doesn't work
 

KillaMac

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https://www.google.co.nz/search?ie=...WKaiFqLr8Af444iIDQ#q=iphone+7+plus+lag+issues

https://www.google.co.nz/search?ie=...tc+m8+lag&gfe_rd=cr&ei=p2ZLWIffIa7r8AfWpKjoCw

whatever Mr double standards.

If the s7 is laggy, so is the iPhone 7 plus, the same method of proof stands....

But you'll disagree til the cows come home so whatever....

For the record, I don't actually care or know if the plus lags but my S7 edge is perfect, how's yours?
Oh that's right, it's a lag fest, worst you've ever had blah blah blah... which leads me to believe you don't have or have had one.
I think you are a liar.

How am I a liar when I just provided all the facts and links backing it. You have yet to do anything. So now calling me a liar because you lost and don't agree with your opinion against facts. Lol
 

Radon87000

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iTunes hasn't been required to own/use an iPhone for many years.

You can't store anything from your PC in your iPhone or vice versa without iTunes . Backup needs iTunes .So If your iPhone stops working you are done for . I would love if Apple does it like Android where no software is needed to sync between devices . iTunes on Windows is an archaic monstrosity . It also insists on running at startup as a service which you can't shut down
 

Klyster

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I don't actually have an opinion on iPhone lag.
I was just showing that if I searched for evidence of it, I can find it.
KillaMac seems to think some threads on some forums is empirical proof of such.

It goes both ways, I haven't experienced lag, the others I know with S7's haven't either do not, they "all" don't lag after six months.
My Note 5 didn't lag, it does a bit now as the missus fills it to the brim and I have to de-clutter it once in a while.
My Note 7 didn't lag even though it was supposed to be slower than the s7.

I get that some people may experience lag on any device but apparently all S7's lag after six months according to Killamac.
It's simply not true.
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How am I a liar when I just provided all the facts and links backing it. You have yet to do anything. So now calling me a liar because you lost and don't agree with your opinion against facts. Lol

I posted links via Google showing people complaining of lag on the iPhone 7 plus and the htc you said doesn't lag.

I did the same as you.
And I still think you're a liar...
 

M. Gustave

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You can't store anything from your PC in your iPhone or vice versa without iTunes . Backup needs iTunes .So If your iPhone stops working you are done for .

You can backup your iPhone to iCloud. All my music, photos, and documents are in the cloud also. If my phone stops working, I lose absolutely nothing.
 

tbayrgs

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You can backup your iPhone to iCloud. All my music, photos, and documents are in the cloud also. If my phone stops working, I lose absolutely nothing.

I agree for the most part. While you don't need iTunes for many aspects of use as you mentioned, certain apps or still require it. For instance, if I want to transfer any of my video library (not purchased through iTunes), I have to plug into my Mac or pay a fairly substantial amount to use something like PLex to be able to download local copies for offline viewing.

And while I haven't done it recently, I think there other apps that still require iTunes to transfer the local files (some comics apps?).

But otherwise, yes, you can use an iPhone without ever touching iTunes quite easily, with just an occasional compromise or work around. For me personally, the superior back up solutions for the iOS devices make the occasion interaction with iTunes worthwhile.
 

M. Gustave

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I agree for the most part. While you don't need iTunes for many aspects of use as you mentioned, certain apps or still require it. For instance, if I want to transfer any of my video library (not purchased through iTunes), I have to plug into my Mac or pay a fairly substantial amount to use something like PLex to be able to download local copies for offline viewing.

I play movies on my iPhone and iPad over wifi with a free app and FileHub wireless card reader. Again, no need for iTunes.
 

macfacts

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That don't have the useful lifespan. iPad 2; 2011 through 2016. iPhone 4s; 2011 through 2016.

I've owned many android phones including my s7 edge. And it lags so bad and is slow it's ridiculous. Hate the phone now.


It's not a myth it's a fact. I'm on Android forums and central and many topics daily about it.

It doesn't matter if it is a fact iOS is smoother or has better post sale software support. Being lag free and having better software support are not that important to some people. This thread is about why people can't or don't want to move from android to iOS.
 

I7guy

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It doesn't matter if it is a fact iOS is smoother or has better post sale software support. Being lag free and having better software support are not that important to some people. This thread is about why people can't or don't want to move from android to iOS.
That doesn't mean "the masses" suffer from what some are posting, does it? The thread is about why the OP doesn't want to move, but you can't infer it applies to "everybody".
 

flameproof

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The single biggest argument against iPhones - the price!

This applies of cause also to the top Galaxy phones, however, there are plenty of much cheaper alternatives that work perfectly too. No point spending more than $250 for a phone.
 
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