Pretty sure there was quite a noticeable change in iOS design much more recently than 2007, when none of the mobile platforms really looked like what they look like today.
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Why can't you let go of Android and move to iPhone.
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After owning iPhone only from the 3GS and having every iteration up to today, I recently purchased a S7 Edge in black and what a revelation android is.
I can change my launcher, themes, icons, font, default apps and as you all know I could go on and on. I also love that I can clear the data and cache of each app, this really annoyed me on iOS that apps build up so much space.
I understand that iOS takes away the complexity but I wouldn't call it dumbing down the experience, it's just different.
What I do like though are the steps to get to the thongs that matter are less. I can turn off mobile data from the drop down menu and I love the app switcher and back button.
But the big plus is the HW design, putting the S7 Edge beside the 7 plus is for me such a huge step forward. When I use android I feel like I'm using a complete experience and device that doesn't need anything else but my iPhone sometimes felt like I was missing out when I didn't own a Mac to connect it to.
I just love this phone, it's getting Nougat soon and that OLED display!
I can change my launcher, themes, icons, font, default apps and as you all know I could go on and on. I also love that I can clear the data and cache of each app, this really annoyed me on iOS that apps build up so much space.
I understand that iOS takes away the complexity but I wouldn't call it dumbing down the experience, it's just different.
What I do like though are the steps to get to the thongs that matter are less. I can turn off mobile data from the drop down menu and I love the app switcher and back button.
But the big plus is the HW design, putting the S7 Edge beside the 7 plus is for me such a huge step forward. When I use android I feel like I'm using a complete experience and device that doesn't need anything else but my iPhone sometimes felt like I was missing out when I didn't own a Mac to connect it to.
I just love this phone, it's getting Nougat soon and that OLED display!
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I still believe people within Apple don't actually use the iPhone - there are so many things about it that don't make sense.
- The fact the phone is just dead even though there's messages and missed calls. Unless you wake the phone to check, there's no way of knowing you've missed anything.
- The "back" button always moving within apps. Sometimes it's top left, sometimes bottom right etc.
- iCal on the iPhone. Just a load of dots in month view aren't very helpful.
- The way the home screen will only populate from top left - furthest away from your thumb.
- Not being able to set default apps.
- The silent switch is too easy to accidentally switch.
- The fact the phone is just dead even though there's messages and missed calls. Unless you wake the phone to check, there's no way of knowing you've missed anything.
- The "back" button always moving within apps. Sometimes it's top left, sometimes bottom right etc.
- iCal on the iPhone. Just a load of dots in month view aren't very helpful.
- The way the home screen will only populate from top left - furthest away from your thumb.
- Not being able to set default apps.
- The silent switch is too easy to accidentally switch.
Many phones don't display anything until you catch a notification or turn the screen on. It's nothing new or strange. That said, a notification LED certainly would be nice.
Back button is something that developers implement within apps. But there's more or less a universal systemwide one which is a swipe on the screen from left to right. It's not set up the same way as in Android, but it's there.
The calendar can show events in the month view as well, just as it can show a day view or a week view or an agenda view listing events. The calendar is also just an app and plenty of other calendars that can be used in its place.
The icon placement is basically more aesthetics than necessarily function. Something that Apple hasn't allowed much control over so far, but hopefully will at some point.
Default apps would be good to have. Apple started leaning a bit in that direction with iOS 10 where built-in apps can be removed, so perhaps default apps will be coming at some point in the (near) future.
The silent switch is fairly useful, but can depend on how one uses the phone as far as how easily it might be flipped. There are certainly some that experience that, while many others that do not. It doesn't really make for something that doesn't "make sense".
- There's mainly only two phones on the market, iPhone + Android today. All Android phones light up when there's a new text, e-mail, or missed phonecall.
- Back button is a major missing feature. Swiping just plain blows, especially on the large Plus iPhone's, swiping sucks, and is no comparison to a real Back button on the bottom of the phone.
- Not being able to move app icons in 2016, wow, really ? That's just pound my head against the wall stupid from Apple. The whole screen full of app icons, that looks like someone left the app drawer open permanently, looks and feels so outdated already.
- No themes, or even changing to a different icon pack, come on Apple, at least allow some basic themes for the phone already. Those stock looking app icons from iOS 7 are old, let the user pick something different if they so choose too
Icons and themes and all that are more of a personal preference thing. Certainly no issues with people having options to do it, but it's not something that "doesn't make sense". Back swipe works fine, but I can see those who are used to Android wanting that kind of similar functionality. LED notifications are something that would be great, although it seems many don't even use them even when they are available. Again, not really things that "don't make sense" as much as things that are different and can be better.
True, as I own both, but wait till your S7 starts to lag badly and slow down. Mine has started to do that terribly.
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-All iPhones light up when you get all 3 of those as well.
I think you can change the iPhone icons or at least frame them. I remember turning mine into little television sets with this one theme set I got for iPhone. You are basically stuck redecorating an app drawer, I'll admit that.
@KillaMac why would the S7 slow down and lag badly? Can that be undone? So far mine is fine and so is my husband's. My HTC 10 lags sometimes, but I am constantly experimenting on it. Right now I'm running a launcher that makes it simulate a Windows Phone OS on the home page.
@KillaMac why would the S7 slow down and lag badly? Can that be undone? So far mine is fine and so is my husband's. My HTC 10 lags sometimes, but I am constantly experimenting on it. Right now I'm running a launcher that makes it simulate a Windows Phone OS on the home page.
-The iPhone, if enabled, lights up when it receives a phone call or a message. I personally don't like a LED notification light. I am not about having it as an option, but I get overly annoyed with the blinking light.
-The back button is what it is, but lets not be ridiculous, swiping doesn't "blow". It simple, and I prefer swiping to anything else, as it keeps my finger on the screen. The lack of a back button can be annoying to some, but you get used to whatever you are using.
-Your third point, is literally criticizing the base design of iOS. That is how iOS approaches the mobile phone interface. If you don't like it, don''t use it, but that doesn't make it inferior. I like both Android and iOS. I find the simplicity, control center, widget panel, etc of iOS to be very cohesive. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate Android.
-Does the pixel allow you to change icons, unless you download a third party launcher? If not, then this is another complaint that gets at the nature of iOS. Android is more open, iOS isn't There are advantages to both. You don't buy a coupe, and complain it doesn't have four doors. You knew that buying it, and should of got a sedan.
I think the pixel is a really nice device, that I find highly tempting. It is, honestly, the only Android device I find tempting. I used to jump from android flagship to flagship, but those days appear to be over. For example, I loved my Samsung s7 edge, but couldn't deal with the inconsistent battery life, performance, software, slow updates, etc.
With the iPhone, or Pixel, you get consistent performance, updates, functionality, etc...out of the box. If you are into rooting (or even jailbreaking), that is a different mindset/approach to a phone, and thus a different conversation.
The Apple Watch series 2, and imessage, to a smaller degree, is what has prevented me from purchasing a Pixel. I hope Google can come up with viable alternatives, largely in terms of a fitness focused smartwatch like the Apple Watch series 2.
In my mind there's only two smartphones for 2016. A Google Pixel XL, rooted, and the Apple iPhone 7 Plus ( with the upcoming JB rumored to be out later this month )
I would not get any other phone IMO
I would not get any other phone IMO
Very well said...very nearly my exact thoughts as well.
I too prefer swiping and find that the overwhelming majority of my most used apps have it implemented. Heck, even my regular news reading app, Google Play Newsstand has it implemented on iOS. I can swipe from anywhere on the screen vs. having to hit a specific spot on the bottom on the phone (or side if in landscape). And the location of the back button isn't universal across Android (on screen vs. bottom bezel, left side vs. right side). I suspect much of this preference has to do with what one had used more. I try to swipe all the time when I'm on Android but that's because I've used iOS far more than Android. When I come back to iOS after prolonged time on Android, I will have phantom back button touches as well. Ultimately I still prefer swiping--it's still far from perfect but I find inconsistencies with the back button behavior just as irritating.
I think the rest of your comments echo my feelings spot on, especially your final paragraph. Comparing just the phones, I find the experience very comparable. Bring smart watches into the mix however and the iPhone/Apple Watch combo puts Android/Android Wear to shame. I really liked the Pixel hardware--easily the best Android smartphone I've every used, and had hoped to move to it full time when I bought it at launch, but once Google pushed back their major Android Wear update to next year, I just couldn't stick with it as Android Wear isn't an enjoyable experience in its present state.
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All Androids seem to slow down over time. Mine at first felt very fast, but overtime has gotten pretty laggy. It is just known issue with Android. Especially Samsungs.
This is a myth. I never had the "slow down over time" experience on any Android phone, even back in the Gingerbread days.
Some people report differing things with the same devices. My 5s, 6 or 6s has not seen slowdowns and they all are on iOS 10 various setting. iphone 4s an almost 6 year old device would probably be most susceptible. But devices from the 5 and up seem quite okay. I haven't hooked them up to Xcode to measure the frame rates, but if nobody notices, then the point is moot.
To be fair, you can also google the earth being flat or the moon landing being fake or even about lizard people living on the inside of the planet, and also find a ton of results.
Yes, that's a given.
You can search the same thing and throw macrumours in there and there's still complaints and people asking for help, on these very forums.
I'm not saying there's any validity to the claims but you'd imagine there's an iota if truth there for some people.
Much in the same ways as people claim android phones slow down after 6 months.
That hasn't been my experience but I'm sure others have experienced it, whatever the cause.
To be fair....
You can search the same thing and throw macrumours in there and there's still complaints and people asking for help, on these very forums.
I'm not saying there's any validity to the claims but you'd imagine there's an iota if truth there for some people.
Much in the same ways as people claim android phones slow down after 6 months.
That hasn't been my experience but I'm sure others have experienced it, whatever the cause.
To be fair....
Well, all of that isn't to say it's not something that people aren't experiencing, more that just because a few or even some people are experiencing it or think that they are it doesn't mean that the cause is simply and update and not something else or something in combination with it.
I guess if the device was noticably slower after an update, the logical conclusion would be the update is the cause.
That's what people have experienced with certain updates on either devices.
That's not to say there isn't something else that is the culprit but you would be forgiven if you thought the update was responsible.
Anyway, this discussion stemmed from i7guy playing obtuse on mi7chy's post.
We all know i7guy has probably read every thread within this forum and is probably well aware of people complaining about ios update performance issues, so I'll leave it at that.
Let this get back on topic.
That's what people have experienced with certain updates on either devices.
That's not to say there isn't something else that is the culprit but you would be forgiven if you thought the update was responsible.
Anyway, this discussion stemmed from i7guy playing obtuse on mi7chy's post.
We all know i7guy has probably read every thread within this forum and is probably well aware of people complaining about ios update performance issues, so I'll leave it at that.
Let this get back on topic.
Make a general statement and expect to be questioned. M**s post was specifically obtuse or hyperbole. I'm also well aware of same being said for android; yet I wouldn't post "android devices are slow and laggy" as a statement of fact from some posts or web search.
Given the thread title, this seems very much on topic.
I phones too me workers lyrics well but are kinda boring.
My issues are the following with Apple.
1. ITunes, I dislike having to use this to put a movie or mp3 on my phone, also only mp4 or mp3 plays. Some of my files don't play and have to be converted over for iTunes to read it.
2. No YouTube downloader- some say it's a work around but I still don't like it.
3. No fast charging
4. I couldn't afford the bigger plus so I got the 6s and it's too small.
5. SwiftKey sucks on ios
Overall it's just a boring as phone, no apps like hide it pro to creep no app lock apps.
Everything is money
On the bright side ios apps are far superior the eBay app is great.
And no file system can't download from Dropbox and play on my phone.
My issues are the following with Apple.
1. ITunes, I dislike having to use this to put a movie or mp3 on my phone, also only mp4 or mp3 plays. Some of my files don't play and have to be converted over for iTunes to read it.
2. No YouTube downloader- some say it's a work around but I still don't like it.
3. No fast charging
4. I couldn't afford the bigger plus so I got the 6s and it's too small.
5. SwiftKey sucks on ios
Overall it's just a boring as phone, no apps like hide it pro to creep no app lock apps.
Everything is money
On the bright side ios apps are far superior the eBay app is great.
And no file system can't download from Dropbox and play on my phone.
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