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richpjr

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May 9, 2006
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Really? I just find it funny that this is an iPhone forum and android trolls come here to hate on people who have found the phone they like. So it's funny to me that android trolls can't get a life and stick to their own forums.

In their defense, a lot of Apple fanboi's do their own share of drive by trolling.
 

macrazee

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Jan 4, 2009
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I actually laugh at any one who spends their time justifying (to themselves) the purchase of something. Use what ever you like and let others do the same. It's just a phone. For the record I prefer iPhone, greatly, but have used Android based devices at different times and they are fine.
 

apollo1444

macrumors 65816
Jul 22, 2011
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mexico
Widgets are a pretty new thing on mobile phones. People seem to like them too, so much that Apple has included a version of them in their own OS.

Copy and paste was also implemented in Android before iOS (note, I am not claiming android was the first mobile OS to implement copy and paste). Interestingly, android's copy and paste is a near carbon copy of how iOS handles copying and pasting. Another interesting fact is that Apple (it may have even been Jobs himself) stated we got copy and paste and it took so long because Apple waited to "do it right".

Let's talk about stores. One might say Apple's AppStore was an innovation of their own. I would argue against that. We had a store, called Installer (jailbreak), way before Apple implemented an Appstore. At the time, Apple seemed to think the future was in web apps, since they were focusing heavily on those.

But honestly, I don;t understand why something has to be completely newly innovated in every way, shape, and form, to be useful? I think both platforms have added various tidbits to the mobile OS world. In my eyes, it is just as impossible to say Android would be what it is today without iOS as it would be to say iOS would be what it is today without Android.

copy and paste? are you f...ing kidding me? is that an innovation? how the hell? I lol'd...

If Apple didn't invent the appstore which they didn't but they did creat the model that exists now that everyone followed, everyone has app stores now, consider this...

THEY INVENTED THE SMARTPHONE AS WE KNOW IT... period.

Android people hate apple and their users that is a known fact, everytime you see an android user you see him babbling to some other smartphone user on how great android is and how bad and crappy the iPhone is, just leave the damned iPhone alone... all is reflected by the companies who produce those products like Samsung who make ads that mock and laught at Apple fanbase and their products...

Android people are bitter just like the brands they buy and choose...
 
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cynics

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Jan 8, 2012
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copy and paste? are you f...ing kidding me? is that an innovation? how the hell? I lol'd...

If Apple didn't invent the appstore which they didn't but they did creat the model that exists now that everyone followed, everyone has app stores now, consider this...

THEY INVENTED THE SMARTPHONE AS WE KNOW IT... period.

Android people hate apple and their users that is a known fact, everytime you see an android user you see him babbling to some other smartphone user on how great android is and how bad and crappy the iPhone is, just leave the damned iPhone alone... all is reflected by the companies who produce those products like Samsung who make ads that mock and laught at Apple fanbase and their products...

Android people are bitter just like the brands they buy and choose...

This is borderline psychotic. Every time you see an android user they are babbling about phones? OK, sure. Time for some new friends and different circles because yours (however probably imaginary) stink.

They invented the smartphone as we KNEW it. Just like smartphones prior to the iPhone invented them as we knew it.

Android users hate apple is a known fact? What are you on? I own and love both, I'm on my 4s right now. Love them equally for different reasons.

How dare Samsung mock the competition!! I saw Samsungs mac vs pc commercial the othe.....oh wait that was one of Apples smear campaigns.

So if android users are bitter people and they ditch android and goto the iPhone are they still bitter? Were they magically made better by a smartphone? You are referring to A LOT of people in this thread.

I think you need to get a grip with reality. It's a smartphone, nothing special, everyone has one.
 

JoeG4

macrumors 68030
Jan 11, 2002
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Windows had it, Mac OS had it, newtons had it.. shoot those functions have been givens on electronic devices for decades now man.

You can give Apple credit for creating the Newton and the iPhone. A lot of things on the iPhone evolved from.. things that already existed elsewhere. If you really want to reach deep you could give them credit for lots of those things via the Newton and some other R&D they did.

By far and large though, the a rectangular slate with few/no buttons was not a new thing brought to the world by Apple with the smartphone - in part because that's what the newton was lol.

You also can't really give them credit for inventing and bringing capacitive touch to the world - that would have come out anyway (as it did with the LG Prada). Perhaps it would have taken longer to catch on, but it would have happened.

The problem with resistive touch was that unless you had your stylus handy, or your hands were clean or something - it wasn't entirely reliable (you know this). That's why phones before the iPhone had accept/hang up buttons on the front, along with some other simple navigation buttons.

Even then, some didn't. The Sony P800, for example:
http://tamss60.tamoggemon.com/contents/2010/February/tha800/sony-ericsson-p800.jpg

I don't think Sony had a spy in Apple's HQ looking at the iPad prototype going EUREKA! I MUST HAVE SONY COME OUT WITH THIS FIRST!

(that, and the iPad was probably a skunkwork type project that had been going on since the 80s). That's ok by me, though I still think the tablet platform has a long way to go. We keep falling back on things like copy/paste and desktops and overlapping windows because they work, not because we're a bunch of lazy bums that can't come up with anything better.
 

mcman77

macrumors 6502a
Dec 22, 2011
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The thing I don't like about android is the fact that the browser logs everything you do just like google.

Other than that it is on par IMO...probably a little ahead in the functional department
 

0m3ga

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Mar 1, 2012
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The thing I don't like about android is the fact that the browser logs everything you do just like google.

Other than that it is on par IMO...probably a little ahead in the functional department

To avoid this, make a link that changes http://www.google dot com to

Https://www.google dot com

Nothing gets logged when you go to the secure version of google. It is the only search page I use and I have checked to see if my history was saved anywhere on my Google page and it wasn't.
 

Lindenhurst

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Aug 24, 2011
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people dont hate android, Android people hate the iPhone and their users, I don't know if its because they can't afford the iPhone or they hate the fact that it just works better than an Android plastic piece of **** without rooting/jailbreaking, smaller screens and not so impressive specs

Does anyone here really hate someone who uses a competing smartphone? I sure hope not. Spirited debate is what it is all about.
And anyone can afford an iPhone now. It is absolutely nothing exclusive.

I've used both and they are equally different, each having it's strengths and weaknesses.
 

mcman77

macrumors 6502a
Dec 22, 2011
522
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To avoid this, make a link that changes http://www.google dot com to

Https://www.google dot com

Nothing gets logged when you go to the secure version of google. It is the only search page I use and I have checked to see if my history was saved anywhere on my Google page and it wasn't.

thanks, i'ved checked it out before but i'm not sure if the browser can be trusted. Is it open source?

From my understanding Android is not truely open source. There are many aspects of the OS that are closed down. Who know what google is doing in those closed down areas? They are a data mining company that use personal info to sell and advertise. Makes sense to me, just not my liking.
 

rjohnstone

macrumors 68040
Dec 28, 2007
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thanks, i'ved checked it out before but i'm not sure if the browser can be trusted. Is it open source?

From my understanding Android is not truely open source. There are many aspects of the OS that are closed down. Who know what google is doing in those closed down areas? They are a data mining company that use personal info to sell and advertise. Makes sense to me, just not my liking.
The OS itself is open source. Anyone can take that source and compile their own version from it.
http://source.android.com/
Google's apps are not open source and are subject to licensing terms.
The browser is WebKit based just like Safari.
 

mcman77

macrumors 6502a
Dec 22, 2011
522
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The OS itself is open source. Anyone can take that source and compile their own version from it.
http://source.android.com/
Google's apps are not open source and are subject to licensing terms.
The browser is WebKit based just like Safari.

I've taken a good look around the android.com site. After searching google as well if android is really open source I wasn't sure what was the truth.

Thanks for clarifying it though. I did think that their apps weren't open source. But that also means that you have to run a gmail account (which they have the right to read) and it is pretty much mandatory to use their apps in order to get benefits of android.

The vital source can be compiled but not by me...maybe a huge manufacturer could take the expense (hopefully unbuntu) and then we'll see what the outcome it.

I prefer android cause of its functionality and being open source...but not their business ethics
 

rjohnstone

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Dec 28, 2007
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I've taken a good look around the android.com site. After searching google as well if android is really open source I wasn't sure what was the truth.

Thanks for clarifying it though. I did think that their apps weren't open source. But that also means that you have to run a gmail account (which they have the right to read) and it is pretty much mandatory to use their apps in order to get benefits of android.

The vital source can be compiled but not by me...maybe a huge manufacturer could take the expense (hopefully unbuntu) and then we'll see what the outcome it.

I prefer android cause of its functionality and being open source...but not their business ethics
Amazon already did this... the Kindle Fire is Android minus the Google apps.
It can run the same Android apps that any "Google Android " device can.
And since Amazon has its own Android appstore, it doesn't require a Google account to use them.
This is why there is no mention of Google anywhere in the product specs or literature.
Google's apps are only mandatory if you want to use their store and branding.
 

wgonzvega

macrumors newbie
Apr 13, 2012
24
10
We dont hate Android Users or Phone

We dont hate you, dont feel bad, we love you, we just, we just feel sorry for you guys...
Bazinga
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
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Aren't most if not all of us iPhone owners or at the very least recent converts to android from iPhone?

I'm just curious who these trolls are.
 

mcman77

macrumors 6502a
Dec 22, 2011
522
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Amazon already did this... the Kindle Fire is Android minus the Google apps.
It can run the same Android apps that any "Google Android " device can.
And since Amazon has its own Android appstore, it doesn't require a Google account to use them.
This is why there is no mention of Google anywhere in the product specs or literature.
Google's apps are only mandatory if you want to use their store and branding.

oh ! thats why they get rooted fairly easily. Good to know bud ;) cheers for that.

It would be great if someone would root android with the equivalent apps but without Google mining your privacy.

I would like to see bada further developed too.
 

rjohnstone

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Dec 28, 2007
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Aren't most if not all of us iPhone owners or at the very least recent converts to android from iPhone?

I'm just curious who these trolls are.
I gave up trying to figure out who they are or what their motives are.
I dig all three platforms, iOS, Android and WP7.

I guess some people still have some more growing up to do.
 

matttye

macrumors 601
Mar 25, 2009
4,957
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Lincoln, England
Android people hate apple and their users that is a known fact, everytime you see an android user you see him babbling to some other smartphone user on how great android is and how bad and crappy the iPhone is, just leave the damned iPhone alone...

My signature disproves your inane comments.
 

BlizzardBolt

macrumors 6502
Sep 15, 2011
456
0
Mariana Trench
Android 4.1 Jellybean blows iOS6 out of the water.

iOS 4.3.5 was great when I first experienced it but iOS6 is about to be released, nothing much has changed where as being on Gingerbread is embarassing, ICS updating to JB will be amazing.

If an iPhone ran Android Jellybean, I might look in to that!
 

dkersten

macrumors 6502a
Nov 5, 2010
589
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Because most people are subconscious about their decisions, even on something so unimportant as a phone purchase so they bash Android (or vice versa) to justify their purchase to themselves. But if you really think about it, its really moronic and I can't believe some people take a mobile phone platform so personal.
 

VulchR

macrumors 68040
Jun 8, 2009
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Android 4.1 Jellybean blows iOS6 out of the water....

:rolleyes:

This is why I find some Android supporters (as opposed to the OS itself) annoying - iOS is not yet released, nor is the next iteration of the iPhone, but somebody took it upon themselves to reactivate this old thread and make a rather groundless statement. Perhaps JB will be better than iOS6, perhaps not - we won't be able to tell until iOS6 is released. We'll see.
 
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blackhand1001

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Jan 6, 2009
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Would you recommend a galaxy nexus or galaxy s2? because I dont know if touchwiz makes up for no ice cream sandwich update in NZ right now or should I just get a Gnexus imported? if you reply i will be grateful:)

If you can get the nexus get that. The touchwiz in ICS on the s2 is kind of bad. They should have gave it the s3s touchwiz. Jellybean on the nexus is amazing too.

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:rolleyes:

This is why I find some Android supporters (as opposed to the OS itself) annoying - iOS is not yet released, nor is the next iteration of the iPhone, but somebody took it upon themselves to reactivate this old thread and make a rather groundless statement. Perhaps JB will be better than iOS6, perhaps not - we won't be able to tell until iOS6 is released. We'll see.

People have iOS6 installed already. All apple is doing now is bug fixes. The feature list is already finished. There are things that even froyo had that iOS has not caught up on. Take for example that the maps, gmail, YouTube, and other apps are constantly updated separately from the OS. So is chrome. They can improve the engine all the time as it is not part of the main OS. People on old devices that don't support ICS can still have the latest maps update and YouTube. Theres also the choice of true third party browsers, third party keyboards and even launchers. You can do all of that without even rooting. Because you don't need to root there's a market for third party keyboards. On iOS you would have to be jail broken and that limits the desire for developers to make these keyboards as the market of people is much smaller. The same goes for apps like custom launchers and emulators. There are hundreds of those on android. Its also easier to make new launchers and keyboards as the source code of the stock one is open source so you can use that as a starting point. Their are lots of things you can't do on iOS that you can in android.
 
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