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DarwinOSX

macrumors 68000
Nov 3, 2009
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I don't find iOS users to be remotely as "hating" on Android as the reverse. Read the Android forums and it's an Apple hate fest you wouldn't believe. It's hard to take seriously because there are a lot of obviously immature teenagers posting such stuff who don't know anything about iOS. Most iOS users just don't seem to care much about Android one way or the other. They are happy and satisfied with what they have. I can only assume that many Android users are insecure of their decision to use Android.

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The LG Prada as precursor to the iPhone has been disproven many times. So has Samsungs claim that Apple is trying to patent rectangles as even a cursory look at the trial documents show.

Windows had it, Mac OS had it, newtons had it.. shoot those functions have been givens on electronic devices for decades now man.

You can give Apple credit for creating the Newton and the iPhone. A lot of things on the iPhone evolved from.. things that already existed elsewhere. If you really want to reach deep you could give them credit for lots of those things via the Newton and some other R&D they did.

By far and large though, the a rectangular slate with few/no buttons was not a new thing brought to the world by Apple with the smartphone - in part because that's what the newton was lol.

You also can't really give them credit for inventing and bringing capacitive touch to the world - that would have come out anyway (as it did with the LG Prada). Perhaps it would have taken longer to catch on, but it would have happened.

The problem with resistive touch was that unless you had your stylus handy, or your hands were clean or something - it wasn't entirely reliable (you know this). That's why phones before the iPhone had accept/hang up buttons on the front, along with some other simple navigation buttons.

Even then, some didn't. The Sony P800, for example:
http://tamss60.tamoggemon.com/contents/2010/February/tha800/sony-ericsson-p800.jpg

I don't think Sony had a spy in Apple's HQ looking at the iPad prototype going EUREKA! I MUST HAVE SONY COME OUT WITH THIS FIRST!

(that, and the iPad was probably a skunkwork type project that had been going on since the 80s). That's ok by me, though I still think the tablet platform has a long way to go. We keep falling back on things like copy/paste and desktops and overlapping windows because they work, not because we're a bunch of lazy bums that can't come up with anything better.
 

Rennir

macrumors 6502
Jan 13, 2012
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I don't find iOS users to be remotely as "hating" on Android as the reverse. Read the Android forums and it's an Apple hate fest you wouldn't believe. It's hard to take seriously because there are a lot of obviously immature teenagers posting such stuff who don't know anything about iOS. Most iOS users just don't seem to care much about Android one way or the other. They are happy and satisfied with what they have. I can only assume that many Android users are insecure of their decision to use Android.

That's interesting because multiple MR users have noted that people rarely talk about the iPhone on Android forums; instead all the "Android trolls" go to Apple sites such as MR to display their insecurities.

And to be fair, I think a lot of iOS users believe Android was copied so their hate is pretty vehement. Look at any thread that mentions Samsung/Android/Google and I'd say within the first page, someone will bring up copying/quality/lag, and most of those threads go to hundreds of posts due to the arguments that result due to the initial claims.

Of course, it goes both ways, but because this is an Apple oriented site, I haven't seen as much Apple hate :p
 

DarwinOSX

macrumors 68000
Nov 3, 2009
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No they don't. They have betas minus hardware specific and other features.
As to map upgrades Apple wrote the front end. The back end is continually updated automatically.
Ther have been third party browsers on iOS for some time. You can make one default by jail breaking.
Launchers etc are an excuse for a poor interface loaded with bloat ware.
Very few iOS users need or care about another keyboard unlike Android where many stock keyboards are awful including the S 3. But I wouldn't mind having the option.

If you can get the nexus get that. The touchwiz in ICS on the s2 is kind of bad. They should have gave it the s3s touchwiz. Jellybean on the nexus is amazing too.

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People have iOS6 installed already. All apple is doing now is bug fixes. The feature list is already finished. There are things that even froyo had that iOS has not caught up on. Take for example that the maps, gmail, YouTube, and other apps are constantly updated separately from the OS. So is chrome. They can improve the engine all the time as it is not part of the main OS. People on old devices that don't support ICS can still have the latest maps update and YouTube. Theres also the choice of true third party browsers, third party keyboards and even launchers. You can do all of that without even rooting. Because you don't need to root there's a market for third party keyboards. On iOS you would have to be jail broken and that limits the desire for developers to make these keyboards as the market of people is much smaller. The same goes for apps like custom launchers and emulators. There are hundreds of those on android. Its also easier to make new launchers and keyboards as the source code of the stock one is open source so you can use that as a starting point. Their are lots of things you can't do on iOS that you can in android.
 

KnightWRX

macrumors Pentium
Jan 28, 2009
15,046
4
Quebec, Canada
So has Samsungs claim that Apple is trying to patent rectangles as even a cursory look at the trial documents show.

Surely you just. Apple did patent the rectangle :

http://www.google.com/patents/USD504889
Screen Shot 2012-08-12 at 9.53.16 PM.png

Unless my eyes deceive me and that's a circle ?
 

Stuntman06

macrumors 6502a
Sep 19, 2011
961
5
Metro Vancouver, B.C, Canada
I don't find iOS users to be remotely as "hating" on Android as the reverse. Read the Android forums and it's an Apple hate fest you wouldn't believe. It's hard to take seriously because there are a lot of obviously immature teenagers posting such stuff who don't know anything about iOS. Most iOS users just don't seem to care much about Android one way or the other. They are happy and satisfied with what they have. I can only assume that many Android users are insecure of their decision to use Android.

There are haters for both sides and there are some non-hateful discussions for both sides on both forums. On the Android forums there are people who ask about iOS and BlackBerry and others and do get meaningful responses and discussions without the hate. There are also people to go there to bash Android as well. Don't think that users and fans of one OS is any better behaved than any other.
 

JoeG4

macrumors 68030
Jan 11, 2002
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I don't find iOS users to be remotely as "hating" on Android as the reverse. Read the Android forums and it's an Apple hate fest you wouldn't believe. It's hard to take seriously because there are a lot of obviously immature teenagers posting such stuff who don't know anything about iOS. Most iOS users just don't seem to care much about Android one way or the other. They are happy and satisfied with what they have. I can only assume that many Android users are insecure of their decision to use Android.

I think things seem more offensive and hateful/hurtful when you're the one feeling offended - what may seem like comments of satisfaction with what you have to you, may be "Look at that idiot iPhone user, I'm much happier with my Nexus!" to someone else.

Somehow, if you sit in the middle you might find comments from both sides offensive - I usually find the iPhone ones elitist, and the Android ones immature. We're not the ones duking it out in court, Apple and Samsung/Google/MS/whatever are. It is kinda fun to point things out but I also think Apple has the most to gain from the litigation (whether you find that a good thing or not is up to you).

I feel like I'm saying a lot of nothing here, lol :D
 

VulchR

macrumors 68040
Jun 8, 2009
3,508
14,459
Scotland
People have iOS6 installed already. All apple is doing now is bug fixes. The feature list is already finished. There are things that even froyo had that iOS has not caught up on. ....

BLAH BLAH BLAH

.... Their are lots of things you can't do on iOS that you can in android.

:rolleyes:

iOS is in Beta, and being tested on old models of iPhones. Feel free to jump to conclusions, but you are basing any comparisons on incomplete information. As I said, we'll see (and no doubt be unable to come to any agreement about which OS is best given that is a subjective judgment).
 

iMacFarlane

macrumors 65816
Apr 5, 2012
1,123
30
Adrift in a sea of possibilities
My son has an Android. The screen is big and bright, looks nice. The OS is terrible, so counter-intuitive. The other day I missed a call because I didn't know I had to slide the answer button on the screen in order to do so. And those little touch buttons that light up? It's just not nice.

I don't hate Android, but I do love iOS. Still rockin' the 3GS, looking forward to upgrade after 'the New iPhone' comes out.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
My son has an Android. The screen is big and bright, looks nice. The OS is terrible, so counter-intuitive. The other day I missed a call because I didn't know I had to slide the answer button on the screen in order to do so. And those little touch buttons that light up? It's just not nice.

I don't hate Android, but I do love iOS. Still rockin' the 3GS, looking forward to upgrade after 'the New iPhone' comes out.

When someone calls a locked iPhone you have to slide to answer. I don't find it that counter intuitive at all, more of a industry standard really.
 

alex2792

macrumors 65816
Jun 13, 2009
1,126
2,973
My son has an Android. The screen is big and bright, looks nice. The OS is terrible, so counter-intuitive. The other day I missed a call because I didn't know I had to slide the answer button on the screen in order to do so. And those little touch buttons that light up? It's just not nice.

I don't hate Android, but I do love iOS. Still rockin' the 3GS, looking forward to upgrade after 'the New iPhone' comes out.

Yeah the whole slide to answer concept is far too advanced. I mean you would need at least a dual PHD in computer science to figure that one out!
 

daveathall

macrumors 68020
Aug 6, 2010
2,379
1,410
North Yorkshire
My son has an Android. The screen is big and bright, looks nice. The OS is terrible, so counter-intuitive. The other day I missed a call because I didn't know I had to slide the answer button on the screen in order to do so.

It might be better next time to have them call you on your own phone rather than your son's:rolleyes:
 
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iMacFarlane

macrumors 65816
Apr 5, 2012
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Adrift in a sea of possibilities
It might be better next time to have them call you on your own phone rather than your son's:rolleyes:

Yeah, that was a crazy moment. He was working in the yard, and his hands were wet and dirty. His phone was on the picnic table and started ringing. I told him I'd answer for him, and after two rings and multiple attempts to answer, I was amazed that I didn't know how to answer a phone! Later he told me I had to slide the big red button, but all I could think was, "How the #@%$ was I supposed to know that?

I much prefer iPhone's simplicity in design. Countless times I've wondered how to do something, then I try something, and it works!
 

Mac.World

macrumors 68000
Jan 9, 2011
1,819
1
In front of uranus
Yeah, that was a crazy moment. He was working in the yard, and his hands were wet and dirty. His phone was on the picnic table and started ringing. I told him I'd answer for him, and after two rings and multiple attempts to answer, I was amazed that I didn't know how to answer a phone! Later he told me I had to slide the big red button, but all I could think was, "How the #@%$ was I supposed to know that?

I much prefer iPhone's simplicity in design. Countless times I've wondered how to do something, then I try something, and it works!

I'm guessing if you owned an iphone you would never get passed the lock screen. ;)
 

boronathan

macrumors 6502
Jul 23, 2012
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Android pre ics was horrible. Random reboots, glitches, poor scrolling, poor performance, horrible task management etc.

With ics , Google took a step in the correct direction but did not solve all the problems. Still had some poor performance on my galaxy nexus and on my quad core tfp.

With jellybean Google has taken a huge step in android. It is just as smooth as ios. The difference between ics and jellybean is night and day, so you can imagine how much different it is from gb and froyo.

So why do ppl hate on Android? Because it sucked and as per the usual many ppl were in denial about how bad it sucked. But there really is no reason to hate on it now other then fragmentation and not as many apps.

Performance wise android is right up there with ios now that jellybean is out
 

Jessica Lares

macrumors G3
Oct 31, 2009
9,612
1,057
Near Dallas, Texas, USA
Yeah, that was a crazy moment. He was working in the yard, and his hands were wet and dirty. His phone was on the picnic table and started ringing. I told him I'd answer for him, and after two rings and multiple attempts to answer, I was amazed that I didn't know how to answer a phone! Later he told me I had to slide the big red button, but all I could think was, "How the #@%$ was I supposed to know that?

I much prefer iPhone's simplicity in design. Countless times I've wondered how to do something, then I try something, and it works!

LOL, you're not alone! I'm ALWAYS missing calls on my Skyrocket because I always mess up trying to answer the stupid call. I can't wait to dump it for another iPhone for that very reason.
 

Wrathwitch

macrumors 65816
Dec 4, 2009
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I like Android, the integration with Google services is fantastic and an obvious extension for many users.

I do have a few complaints with Android, most of them with the developers behind apps though. Example: Plants vs Zombies, only my favorite game, is not available on ICS (4 months now). That is rediclious, support on iOS is so much faster. We see updates to our apps very quickly after a new release of iOS.

I really feel your pain on the PvZ, it's my fave game on iPhone, and now with GS3, it isn't even supported in my Country, let alone device!!! (Canada)

Maybe for the same reasons people irrationally "hate on" iOS (and Apple products in general).

Quite simply to answer the OP's question.

People love to hate. Hating and arguing seems to come instinctively to humanity. If you are having a bad day and can't kick the **** out of the source, you anonymously go on a forum or video game and crap on other people.

Hell, even though I like to consider myself a logical person sometimes I even come on here, and read something I consider particularly stupid and then spew forth some venom on the post. Makes me feel superior for a moment I guess. LOL! I got caught with my foot in my mouth on one post, which was rather embarrassing but in a way, nicely humbling.

Something to consider about humanity is that we are the only species that is stupid enough to s*** where we eat. Dumb enough to start destroying our planet and then the first to go screaming in panic when we realize things are reaching dangerous levels...

go figure.
 

Mac.World

macrumors 68000
Jan 9, 2011
1,819
1
In front of uranus
May I please direct your attention to the text in the lower section of this screen? The Apple engineers even made it highlight with motion to get the users attention.

I was joking. But it does say something to the level Apple will go to show how stupid they think the customer is. :D again, I joke.
 

irDigital0l

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Dec 7, 2010
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haha.... thanx i needed a good laugh neither is android or any other operating system, however android might be perfect for your uses and ios for mine.

It's funny that you said that, I'm actually typing this reply from my iPhone.

This is just like why some Xbox fanboys complain about the ps3. It's because they know the Xbox isn't perfect. Maybe they want a game that only the ps3 has so in other to make themselves feel better, they complain about the ps3.
 

Mac.World

macrumors 68000
Jan 9, 2011
1,819
1
In front of uranus
I know, I'm sorry if I came across as defensive or serious. I was smiling while I was typing the reply. Words alone don't convey true human communication, sometimes.

Cheers! :)

Yeah, it is difficult. That is why I have found a bunch of different emoticons I can use to better convey my thoughts in a forum.
cheers.gif
 

Diseal3

macrumors 65816
Jun 29, 2008
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95
I hope now with ICS and JB developer's would improve on their apps and work with the new OS features. Battery life is the only other problem I had with ICS and my Galaxy Nexus, however I hear JB really fixed that so I may go back to android come the next Nexus device.
 
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