iPad Pro Why do people think there will be a 2021 iPad Pro?

[pdoherty]

Yep it really doesn’t help Apple that people think they’re leaking legit info but aren’t when people reading those leaks decide NOT to purchase because of the impending new version of the devices.

 

[Digitalguy]

I’ve got an issue with what I’m seeing. Some people have suggested that Apple themselves have perpetuated rumors in order to flush out leakers. Now, if this was a true, it would be highly disruptive and damaging to a variety of things, including sales. I’m in the market for an iPad as many are, btw. The other possibility, is that things are normal and we will hear an announcement soon based on the supply chain rumors that have already reached critical mass, so to speak. This process many have grown to rely on, in regards to their purchasing habits.

Things were moving along until expected dates came and went, and the developer‘s event in June was announced. Now the rumors have dried up along with my expectations. None of this helps. I need an iPad.

Highly disruptive for sales? Not more than the rumors themselves... Rumors can hurt sales in the first place, so making them unliable can be an advantage for Apple. I know that's not why we, consumers, want to hear, but that's the business reality... rumors are bad for componies, unless they are orchestrated...

 

[Digitalguy]

Yep it really doesn’t help Apple that people think they’re leaking legit info but aren’t when people reading those leaks decide NOT to purchase because of the impending new version of the devices.

it doesn't help in the short term, but making leakers less credible helps them in the long term, since they don't want you to know in advance what's coming

 

[Digitalguy]

Agreed, I think the iPad has so much more potential than what it is being used for. It should be able to use an external monitor as a monitor - not whatever it is doing now - there just seems to be no reason why it can't. iPad OS definitely needs to mature significantly to take advantage of that type of use case. I realize a lot of people like the simplicity of iOS and iPad OS but for me, as expensive as iPads are, they really should be able to be used more. I'm talking the $1000+ Pros.

As someone who already pays for an expensive iPhone and a MacBook - I find it really difficult to justify a $1000 device that just expands a little on my iPhone. I know that's harsh but kind of how I see it. Granted, I've read dozens and dozens of books on my iPad but I would have read them on my iPhone had Apple Books (STILL!!!!) not been able to utilize the full screen of the 12 Pro Max. That's beyond frustrating to me.

Concerning "there just seems to be no reason why it can't" I think it's harder than we think.... That's why it's taking so long... We tend to think in terms of desktop OSs or even Android, but IOS has always been much more limited and it's not easy to change things for Apple, especially for third party apps...
While on Android for instance most apps are automatically resized to different aspect ratios, on IOS delevopers need to make a specific app for iPad, with the 4:3 aspect ratio, and if they want, they can support external monitors for some uses... Most don't...
The results is that iPad apps are more curated than on Android, since they are specifically adapted to iPads (instead of automatically adapted), but they are also less flexibile when it comes to resizing....
In addition to a simple resizing there is the ability to multitastk on both the tablet and the monitor at the same time... Which means at least 4 apps at the same time in split screen, if not more. This wouldn't probably fit any device with less than 4GB of RAM, so Apple has first to upgrade the RAM on all the line to at least 4GB, which they are slowly doing (I expect the iPad 9 to get 4GB, the air 5 to get 6 and the upcoming pro to get 8, don't know about the mini, might be 4 or 6), because I doubt they would leave out one of the current iPads from a big new update like this...

 

[Jimpilot]

I’ve got an issue with what I’m seeing. Some people have suggested that Apple themselves have perpetuated rumors in order to flush out leakers. Now, if this was a true, it would be highly disruptive and damaging to a variety of things, including sales. I’m in the market for an iPad as many are, btw. The other possibility, is that things are normal and we will hear an announcement soon based on the supply chain rumors that have already reached critical mass, so to speak. This process many have grown to rely on, in regards to their purchasing habits.

Things were moving along until expected dates came and went, and the developer‘s event in June was announced. Now the rumors have dried up along with my expectations. None of this helps. I need an iPad.

I did find it interesting that so many leakers were certain that there was a March event, even betting their eye brows, and none came. I still think Apple likes the surprise effect and when leaks spill all the beans they loose something that they used to have and now don’t.

They want To go back to the way it was when we were all amazed at what they present IMO.

 

[LogicalApex]

If I had to guess. April 6th press release drop for it.

 

[TheIntruder]

I’ve got an issue with what I’m seeing. Some people have suggested that Apple themselves have perpetuated rumors in order to flush out leakers. Now, if this was a true, it would be highly disruptive and damaging to a variety of things, including sales. I’m in the market for an iPad as many are, btw. The other possibility, is that things are normal and we will hear an announcement soon based on the supply chain rumors that have already reached critical mass, so to speak. This process many have grown to rely on, in regards to their purchasing habits.

Things were moving along until expected dates came and went, and the developer‘s event in June was announced. Now the rumors have dried up along with my expectations. None of this helps. I need an iPad.

Are you suggesting that Apple doesn't engage in counterintelligence, including planting false rumors?

If so, I'd suggest you look into "Asteroid," Nick Ciarelli, and Think Secret.

The thing that's ridiculous is the lengths that some now go to drink the Kool-Aid from the rumor mongers, which disregards the facts that 1) they are rumors, until validated and 2) Apple makes the final decisions, not the rumor mongers.

To try to divine Apple's product plans based on what rumors float about may be an entertaining distraction, and drive traffic to sites like this, but ultimately, they don't speak for Apple, nor determine its plans.

One of the most prevalent manifestations of this is the crowd who believe "Rumors have not mentioned an 11" iPad Pro, ergo, Apple is killing it." Well, the leakers don't mention many other things, which could also draw inferences, but that doesn't make them any more true, up to the point that Apple's plans are revealed.

And, lastly, even the best mongers get things wrong. Look back at this gem.

Some need to stop mistaking the tail for the dog.

 

[iamMacPerson]

I’ve got an issue with what I’m seeing. Some people have suggested that Apple themselves have perpetuated rumors in order to flush out leakers. Now, if this was a true, it would be highly disruptive and damaging to a variety of things, including sales. I’m in the market for an iPad as many are, btw. The other possibility, is that things are normal and we will hear an announcement soon based on the supply chain rumors that have already reached critical mass, so to speak. This process many have grown to rely on, in regards to their purchasing habits.

Things were moving along until expected dates came and went, and the developer‘s event in June was announced. Now the rumors have dried up along with my expectations. None of this helps. I need an iPad.

I don’t think they were/are trying to flush leakers out of the company. It would make no sense. Apple has been doing events for years almost exclusively on Tuesdays (keyword: almost) to the point where we expect it. We also know they normally only hold events in Spring (March) Summer (June) and Fall (Sep/Oct). If they were trying to ward out leakers, that leave a very limited window of false dates to give out.

Additionally, this person would have to be told not to tell anyone else, not even in the company, otherwise it could be someone else who leaked it. If they were told that, wouldn’t that make them suspicious that they are being told fake info? Or if they tell an entire group of people that an event is on XX day, are they just going to fire the whole group regardless of 1) who did it and 2) what that group is working on? If there was a mass firing of a group of people it would probably spook investors and you know that’s the last thing Tim wants.

IMO, I think there was never a March event. The reason everyone was hyper focused on March is because that’s when Apple always releases new products. If they are going to release something early in the year, it’s almost always been in March. Prossner even said that one of his sources who is basically 100% accurate said April but he didn’t believe him, instead believing someone else who re-enforced the March preconception.

If you ask me, it’s enough proof that March came and went with no new Watch bands or phone cases, a cash boon for Apple. They’re waiting to either do one massive drop on the store along with the iPads or announce everything at one keynote. I was hoping we’d get invites today but maybe they held off due to Good Friday. I’m thinking we’ll see invites on the 6th and Keynote on the 13th. Even the leak with the new iPhone case colors said something was happening the week of the 11th.

 

[Jimpilot]

I don’t think they were/are trying to flush leakers out of the company. It would make no sense. Apple has been doing events for years almost exclusively on Tuesdays (keyword: almost) to the point where we expect it. We also know they normally only hold events in Spring (March) Summer (June) and Fall (Sep/Oct). If they were trying to ward out leakers, that leave a very limited window of false dates to give out.

Additionally, this person would have to be told not to tell anyone else, not even in the company, otherwise it could be someone else who leaked it. If they were told that, wouldn’t that make them suspicious that they are being told fake info? Or if they tell an entire group of people that an event is on XX day, are they just going to fire the whole group regardless of 1) who did it and 2) what that group is working on? If there was a mass firing of a group of people it would probably spook investors and you know that’s the last thing Tim wants.

IMO, I think there was never a March event. The reason everyone was hyper focused on March is because that’s when Apple always releases new products. If they are going to release something early in the year, it’s almost always been in March. Prossner even said that one of his sources who is basically 100% accurate said April but he didn’t believe him, instead believing someone else who re-enforced the March preconception.

If you ask me, it’s enough proof that March came and went with no new Watch bands or phone cases, a cash boon for Apple. They’re waiting to either do one massive drop on the store along with the iPads or announce everything at one keynote. I was hoping we’d get invites today but maybe they held off due to Good Friday. I’m thinking we’ll see invites on the 6th and Keynote on the 13th. Even the leak with the new iPhone case colors said something was happening the week of the 11th.

I think we were more talking about hardware leaks than just release dates. But I guess it could be both.

 

[James Godfrey]

I don’t think they were/are trying to flush leakers out of the company. It would make no sense. Apple has been doing events for years almost exclusively on Tuesdays (keyword: almost) to the point where we expect it. We also know they normally only hold events in Spring (March) Summer (June) and Fall (Sep/Oct). If they were trying to ward out leakers, that leave a very limited window of false dates to give out.

Additionally, this person would have to be told not to tell anyone else, not even in the company, otherwise it could be someone else who leaked it. If they were told that, wouldn’t that make them suspicious that they are being told fake info? Or if they tell an entire group of people that an event is on XX day, are they just going to fire the whole group regardless of 1) who did it and 2) what that group is working on? If there was a mass firing of a group of people it would probably spook investors and you know that’s the last thing Tim wants.

IMO, I think there was never a March event. The reason everyone was hyper focused on March is because that’s when Apple always releases new products. If they are going to release something early in the year, it’s almost always been in March. Prossner even said that one of his sources who is basically 100% accurate said April but he didn’t believe him, instead believing someone else who re-enforced the March preconception.

If you ask me, it’s enough proof that March came and went with no new Watch bands or phone cases, a cash boon for Apple. They’re waiting to either do one massive drop on the store along with the iPads or announce everything at one keynote. I was hoping we’d get invites today but maybe they held off due to Good Friday. I’m thinking we’ll see invites on the 6th and Keynote on the 13th. Even the leak with the new iPhone case colors said something was happening the week of the 11th.

I am expecting invites on 13th and event on 20th (if there is an event), pretty sure apple won’t hold an event on the 13th due to superstition, but who knows.... something is definitely 100% coming this month though.

 

[AutomaticApple]

I am expecting invites on 13th and event on 20th (if there is an event), pretty sure apple won’t hold an event on the 13th due to superstition, but who knows.... something is definitely 100% coming this month though.

I do not think that "superstition" is a reason for them to not hold an event on that day. Regardless, my fingers are crossed for that new 24" iMac! ?

 

[Jimpilot]

I do not think that "superstition" is a reason for them to not hold an event on that day. Regardless, my fingers are crossed for that new 24" iMac! ?

I guess we will see if they do

 

[UltimateSyn]

I do not think that "superstition" is a reason for them to not hold an event on that day. Regardless, my fingers are crossed for that new 24" iMac! ?

I am expecting invites on 13th and event on 20th (if there is an event), pretty sure apple won’t hold an event on the 13th due to superstition, but who knows.... something is definitely 100% coming this month though.

They held the WWDC Keynote on June 13th, 2016 and a Special Event last year on October 13th. I don’t think that will stop them.

 

[LogicalApex]

I am expecting invites on 13th and event on 20th (if there is an event), pretty sure apple won’t hold an event on the 13th due to superstition, but who knows.... something is definitely 100% coming this month though.

The superstition is for Friday the 13th. So that wouldn’t overlap here.

 

[Coolio1234]

Why couldn’t there be an event on the 6th? Post Easter holiday and well positioned to line up with iOS 14.5 final (think back last year when a .x release coincided with new iPads!)

 

[leerichards1]

Why couldn’t there be an event on the 6th? Post Easter holiday and well positioned to line up with iOS 14.5 final (think back last year when a .x release coincided with new iPads!)

I don't think they'd hold an actual event (even virtual) with such little notice. I suspect the best that anyone can hope for tomorrow is either a press release about actual new products or an announcement of a virtual event the following week. If nothing, then the same would be true for the 13th and 20th and then if nothing still, well it's looking like everyone will be waiting until June.

 

[giggles]

I see last year the release news for the 2020 iPad Pro was on a Wednesday at 5:16 AM in Cupertino and 8:16 AM in New York, early afternoon in Europe.
Not a Tuesday.
Not at 10:00 AM Pacific.
Just saying.

 

[ericwn]

I am expecting invites on 13th and event on 20th (if there is an event), pretty sure apple won’t hold an event on the 13th due to superstition, but who knows.... something is definitely 100% coming this month though.

Hoping for an event myself - but I don’t think the number 13 scares them. 6 and 13 were used in major products before, so all should be good.

 

[Adelphos33]

I think we will get a release this week.

 

[AutomaticApple]

I think we will get a release this week.

I think we will get press invites tomorrow.

 

[The Game 161]

I think we will get press invites tomorrow.

it needs to really. got to think end of April it becomes available to buy

 

[Coolio1234]

Yeah, I can’t recall what video I was watching but the old apple magic keyboard video has apparently been pulled from YT.

Would not be surprised if a press release takes place tomorrow.

 

[Seanm87]

Tim Cook said iOS 14.5 will be out in "a few weeks".

Usually they release these things together so I think late April is a good bet for a press release.

 

[Coolio1234]

Tim Cook said iOS 14.5 will be out in "a few weeks".

Usually they release these things together so I think late April is a good bet for a press release.

based off this logic+last years release, iPads could very well be announced tomorrow and then arrive with 14.5 next week!

 

[Jt69yupper]

They also updated trade in values on the web site today…so theirs that