Other Why do you prefer ios over android?

[mib1800]

Sure iOS collects some data but Google is 10x worse. Debate over.

Provided you don't use your iPhone at all

When you use your iPhone it sends a surprising two-thirds the amount compared to android phone. Half was sent to Google directly (even when iPhone is not using any Google products)

I think the debate is really over. Conclusion: You don't have any privacy when using iPhone. iPhone cannot escape from Google tentacles. Time for some iPhone fans to take out their ancient Razr or Nokia 3310 and dump their iPhone in the thrash :lol:

 

[m0sher]

Provided you don't use your iPhone at all

When you use your iPhone it sends a surprising two-thirds the amount compared to android phone. Half was sent to Google directly (even when iPhone is not using any Google products)

I think the debate is really over. Conclusion: You don't have any privacy when using iPhone. iPhone cannot escape from Google tentacles. Time for some iPhone fans to take out their ancient Razr or Nokia 3310 and dump their iPhone in the thrash :lol:

Dude show me the proof you’re just spreading FUD.

You’re so biased against Apple, I put you on my ignore list.

The fact you’re debating that Apple gathers more information than Google speaks volumes

 

[mib1800]

Dude show me the proof you’re just spreading FUD.

You’re so biased against Apple, I put you on my ignore list.

The fact you’re debating that Apple gathers more information than Google speaks volumes

Goodness. You are the one who touted this report and yet you are so oblivious

https://digitalcontentnext.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DCN-Google-Data-Collection-Paper.pdf

I never said Apple gathers more info. I am saying if you are using iphone, google permeates there too. So iphone is no better in privacy than android phone.


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V. AMOUNT OF DATA COLLECTED DURING A MINIMAL USE OF GOOGLE
PRODUCTS
58. Google’s data collection through its publisher and advertiser services. ..... entailed a user going through her daily life using a mobile phone ...., while deliberately avoiding the use of any direct Google products (i.e. avoiding Search, Gmail, YouTube, Maps, etc.), except for the Chrome browser.
59. ..... to form a daily usage profile of a typical mobile phone user, thereafter, any direct interactions with Google’s products were omitted from the profile.....
60. The experiment was replicated on both Android and iOS devices....The results are summarized in Figure 12.
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[m0sher]

I do prefer Apple's Privacy policy protecting us from what happens to our data.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/22/...otect-apple-app-store-pulled-privacy-concerns

“ Apple informed Facebook earlier this month that Onavo Protect violated new privacy rules, implemented back in June, that restrict developers’ ability to create databases out of user information and sell it to third parties.”

Edit to add MacRumor link

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/08/22/facebook-removing-onavo-from-ios-app-store/

 

[ipponrg]

I do prefer Apple's Privacy policy protecting us from what happens to our data.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/22/...otect-apple-app-store-pulled-privacy-concerns

“ Apple informed Facebook earlier this month that Onavo Protect violated new privacy rules, implemented back in June, that restrict developers’ ability to create databases out of user information and sell it to third parties.”

Although it's nice that these companies publicly announce actions such as these, I think this is still a false sense of security. As a user, you should still exercise awareness when using any app. There are many indirect forms of violating privacy rules unbeknownst to both Apple and its user.

 

[m0sher]

Although it's nice that these companies publicly announce actions such as these, I think this is still a false sense of security. As a user, you should still exercise awareness when using any app. There are many indirect forms of violating privacy rules unbeknownst to both Apple and its user.

I couldn’t agree more regarding watching out for ourselves with continued scrutiny over our own actions and of those we entrust. It’s when your not paying attention when it happens.

 

[FFR]

He didn't say he had it in High Performance mode. He should have switched that on. But between my S9+ and my iPhone X, the S9 kills it in speed.
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It's okay, not like anyone would produce an 8k video anyways. He did that to make the X win anyways.

iPhone is on iOS 12 and Its beating the note 9, iPhone X with iOS 12 will beat the s9 as well.
But doesn’t really matter iPhone X is last years model, iPhone X plus is incoming.

I thought the note 9 was suppose to be a beast?
That’s what everyone claims, why shouldn’t it be able to process a video. If last years iPhones x can do it, why can’t this years note 9? they both retail for the the same amount.

 

[FFR]

Goodness. You are the one who touted this report and yet you are so oblivious

https://digitalcontentnext.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DCN-Google-Data-Collection-Paper.pdf

I never said Apple gathers more info. I am saying if you are using iphone, google permeates there too. So iphone is no better in privacy than android phone.


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V. AMOUNT OF DATA COLLECTED DURING A MINIMAL USE OF GOOGLE
PRODUCTS
58. Google’s data collection through its publisher and advertiser services. ..... entailed a user going through her daily life using a mobile phone ...., while deliberately avoiding the use of any direct Google products (i.e. avoiding Search, Gmail, YouTube, Maps, etc.), except for the Chrome browser.[
59. ..... to form a daily usage profile of a typical mobile phone user, thereafter, any direct interactions with Google’s products were omitted from the profile.....
60. The experiment was replicated on both Android and iOS devices....The results are summarized in Figure 12.
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It’s 5.7MB vs 11.6MB and that’s only if the iPhone uses chrome.

I bolded it for you

Where are you getting the 80-90%?

 

[FFR]

Provided you don't use your iPhone at all

When you use your iPhone it sends a surprising two-thirds the amount compared to android phone. Half was sent to Google directly (even when iPhone is not using any Google products)

I think the debate is really over. Conclusion: You don't have any privacy when using iPhone. iPhone cannot escape from Google tentacles. Time for some iPhone fans to take out their ancient Razr or Nokia 3310 and dump their iPhone in the thrash :lol:

Provided you don’t use chrome.

Yeah your right the debate is over.

And the conclusion is you only have privacy on an iPhone, if you want it.

Guess that’s one option not available to android.

 

[mib1800]

It’s 5.7MB vs 11.6MB and that’s only if the iPhone uses chrome.

I bolded it for you

Where are you getting the 80-90%?

Think they made exception for Chrome on Android phone only as it is default built-in browser. There is no evident they purposely force the test to run on chrome in iPhone. And the browser is just the container for webpages. The websites are the one that are gathering info most of the time through cookies and such. Don't forget they also mentioned the following which would omit those requests that come directly from chrome:-

"thereafter, any direct interactions with Google’s products were omitted from the profile."

BTW: doesn't chrome on iOS uses the underlying safari webkit. So chrome in iPhone is just safari with a skin

I said 70-80% (not 80-90% ) if you include the data send to apple servers.

If you want to self-console yourself and stick your head in the sand that iPhone can safeguard your privacy much better than Android, go ahead be my guest

P.s. in reality, most iPhone users are very likely to use Google products such as Search or YouTube. So the actual typical data sent is much more than what is shown in the table for iPhone

 

[DNichter]

Best overall platform when it comes to performance, security, privacy, ecosystem, apps, and customer support. Everything else is kind of irrelevant to me.

 

[Bruce_Richwine]

Lets be honest the older we get the less likely we like change. We are creatures of habit and most iPhone users are afraid to change or have no real technical ability to understand another platform. Most iPhone users don’t even understand how their iPhone works. I deployed 250 iPhones to my organization and we can’t even get people to understand how to update IOS until its to late. But from polls that have been observed iPhone is more of a status symbol and when you tell men that woman are more likely to judge men who are not iPhone users that in itself is why many use one.

 

[DNichter]

Lets be honest the older we get the less likely we like change. We are creatures of habit and most iPhone users are afraid to change or have no real technical ability to understand another platform. Most iPhone users don’t even understand how their iPhone works. I deployed 250 iPhones to my organization and we can’t even get people to understand how to update IOS until its to late. But from polls that have been observed iPhone is more of a status symbol and when you tell men that woman are more likely to judge men who are not iPhone users that in itself is why many use one.

Or maybe people just prefer one platform over the other? Everyone values different things. To assume iOS users have no technical ability, can't understand another platform, don't understand how their iPhone works, don't understand how to update iOS, and only think of the iPhone as a status symbol is as ignorant as it comes.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Or maybe people just prefer one platform over the other? Everyone values different things. To assume iOS users have no technical ability, can't understand another platform, don't understand how their iPhone works, don't understand how to update iOS, and only think of the iPhone as a status symbol is as ignorant as it comes.

That pretty much explains my situation and most of my friends and family with iPhones. It’s just easy to upgrade to another iPhone at each upgrade and because the continuity across to Mac and iPad is so seamless, it’s an attractive package. I also have an Apple Watch and the change all this to Android now would be horrendously expensive, a complete pain in the backside and pointless for me.

Most people I know don’t even look at anything else and get an iPhone each upgrade, often now the last years model. Those that have tried android like my brother have returned to the iPhone after one cycle. Both platforms have their pros and cons and others may not like this viewpoint but it’s all personal preference.

 

[kargurin]

Lets be honest the older we get the less likely we like change. We are creatures of habit and most iPhone users are afraid to change or have no real technical ability to understand another platform. Most iPhone users don’t even understand how their iPhone works. I deployed 250 iPhones to my organization and we can’t even get people to understand how to update IOS until its to late. But from polls that have been observed iPhone is more of a status symbol and when you tell men that woman are more likely to judge men who are not iPhone users that in itself is why many use one.

I owed several Androids before I tried the iPhone. And now I go back and forth. Both systems have their advantages and disadvantages and explaining those only ends up in a debate into which is better. Which is only, what, the 45678435 thread we've had on this. It's more of a trollish thread than anything instructive. I do think it is interesting that if you go the the Android Central Note forum you will not see a thread like this. People just buy their dam* Note without a need to explain or debate it. I still haven't decided. I like plus phones but I don't like the girth of the iPhone pluses. I like iPhone notifications, android widgets, iOS apps, android customization.....and blah. I'll wait for the Apple announcement extravaganza in a few weeks and then pull the trigger.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I owed several Androids before I tried the iPhone. And now I go back and forth. Both systems have their advantages and disadvantages and explaining those only ends up in a debate into which is better. Which is only, what, the 45678435 thread we've had on this. It's more of a trollish thread than anything instructive. I do think it is interesting that if you go the the Android Central Note forum you will not see a thread like this. People just buy their dam* Note without a need to explain or debate it. I still haven't decided. I like plus phones but I don't like the girth of the iPhone pluses. I like iPhone notifications, android widgets, iOS apps, android customization.....and blah. I'll wait for the Apple announcement extravaganza in a few weeks and then pull the trigger.

The android central forums are dead.

 

[DNichter]

That pretty much explains my situation and most of my friends and family with iPhones. It’s just easy to upgrade to another iPhone at each upgrade and because the continuity across to Mac and iPad is so seamless, it’s an attractive package. I also have an Apple Watch and the change all this to Android now would be horrendously expensive, a complete pain in the backside and pointless for me.

Most people I know don’t even look at anything else and get an iPhone each upgrade, often now the last years model. Those that have tried android like my brother have returned to the iPhone after one cycle. Both platforms have their pros and cons and others may not like this viewpoint but it’s all personal preference.

Although it would definitely be a pain to make the switch to Android, I would first need to have a really good reason to do so. So far, I haven't seen any value in switching to Android. If I had good reason, I'd absolutely do so.

 

[kargurin]

The android central forums are dead.

There are 50K views and over 240 responses on just the Best Buy Note 9 pre-order thread. But you're right I'll borrow some of the posting flavor from here and start a thread there... What enchants you most about your Android.

 

[nia820]

The apps and only the apps. There are better quality apps for ios than android.

I'd rather use android as it doesn't sandbox me and I have more customizable options. But I rather have quality apps

 

[Shanghaichica]

There are 50K views and over 240 responses on just the Best Buy Note 9 pre-order thread. But you're right I'll borrow some of the posting flavor from here and start a thread there... What enchants you most about your Android.

There were a few ‘the iPhone X is so much better’ threads in the note 8 forum last year.

 

[rui no onna]

Although it would definitely be a pain to make the switch to Android, I would first need to have a really good reason to do so. So far, I haven't seen any value in switching to Android. If I had good reason, I'd absolutely do so.

True. Switching platforms is a pain. You need to learn to get used to a new interface, find (and maybe purchase) alternative apps, etc. Unless there's something horribly wrong with what I currently have, easier to just stay than to switch.

For example, on the desktop, I used Windows for decades. It isn't until now with Windows 7 unsupported by new hardware and EOL coming up, and the Windows 10 forced updates and telemetrics that I started seriously considering (and previewing) alternatives.

 

[kargurin]

There were a few ‘the iPhone X is so much better’ threads in the note 8 forum last year.

I really don't know why those phones are still being bought. The androiders must have a screw loose. And the franchise barely gets by. No one reads the forums and no one buys the Notes. Hocus Pocus?

 

[Lankyman]

I don't. iOS v Android - it's a draw and I do have both.

All this obsession with concerns about data collection makes me smile. Boy you U.S. citizens must have a lot of stuff you want to hide. They could use my data as a cure for insomnia.

 

[Grimham]

iPhone is on iOS 12 and Its beating the note 9, iPhone X with iOS 12 will beat the s9 as well.
But doesn’t really matter iPhone X is last years model, iPhone X plus is incoming.

I thought the note 9 was suppose to be a beast?
That’s what everyone claims, why shouldn’t it be able to process a video. If last years iPhones x can do it, why can’t this years note 9? they both retail for the the same amount.

No it's not. If you only use geekbench then sure. But any other test, it is getting beaten by the Note 9 or other 845 processors. Because other bench tests test all the other hardware that is on the device and not just the CPU. So quit ignoring the facts.

BTW, this was just done. The Note 9 beat the OP6 finally on Antutu benchmark.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote9/comments/99r8df/my_note_9_8gb_model_beat_oneplus6_in_antutu/

 

[DNichter]

No it's not. If you only use geekbench then sure. But any other test, it is getting beaten by the Note 9 or other 845 processors. Because other bench tests test all the other hardware that is on the device and not just the CPU. So quit ignoring the facts.

BTW, this was just done. The Note 9 beat the OP6 finally on Antutu benchmark.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote9/comments/99r8df/my_note_9_8gb_model_beat_oneplus6_in_antutu/

How does an eight core processor with 8GB of RAM not have better benchmarks than a year old iPhone X? It makes no sense to me.