Other Why do you prefer ios over android?

[archer75]

there are great things about ios but the restrictiveness is a deal breaker.

if i want to use google maps as the default program to open addresses i cant. apple literally forces you to use apple maps. if i'm browsing safari or get sent an address through text, i cant just click the link and have it open in google maps. apple is forcing it to open on their program. like c'mon....

or even simple things like i cant set how long i want the alarm to snooze for. something so simple that apple could add in 10 minutes to their software but they already decided they know you better then you know yourself and 11 minutes it is.

Apps can link to other apps. For example I can get texts for google locations and the link opens google maps by default. If i'm on website in safari and that website has a google maps link then google maps is what opens.
Various mail apps, news apps, and others will ask you to pick what web browser you want to open for external links and you can set defaults on an app by app basis.

Does apple collect data on users? Of course. All companies do. With google you are the product. The difference is they collect even more data and they sell it off. That's their business. Apple doesn't sell off your data. They use it to analyze how people use their products and services. And you stay anonymous.

 

[IowaLynn]

iOS to limit what data Google harvests.

Also I prefer now internal storage like Essential with 128GB I don’t need to rely on slower sdxc and it’s vulnerabilities.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/man-in-the-disk-attacks-take-advantage-of-android-storage-systems/

 

[Lankyman]

Apps can link to other apps. For example I can get texts for google locations and the link opens google maps by default. If i'm on website in safari and that website has a google maps link then google maps is what opens.
Various mail apps, news apps, and others will ask you to pick what web browser you want to open for external links and you can set defaults on an app by app basis.

Does apple collect data on users? Of course. All companies do. With google you are the product. The difference is they collect even more data and they sell it off. That's their business. Apple doesn't sell off your data. They use it to analyze how people use their products and services. And you stay anonymous.

I just don't understand why this would bother you. I've used Android for years as well as iOS. I don't think I've ever been bombarded with ads nor do I get lots of spam. I go to the trouble of switching off all options for targeted ads in my Google account.

Given that the majority of iPhone users use a fair amount of Google apps they are getting your data anyway.

 

[archer75]

I just don't understand why this would bother you. I've used Android for years as well as iOS. I don't think I've ever been bombarded with ads nor do I get lots of spam. I go to the trouble of switching off all options for targeted ads in my Google account.

Given that the majority of iPhone users use a fair amount of Google apps they are getting your data anyway.

It's all about how much you care about your privacy. It goes well beyond ads and spam.

And using google apps on ios doesn't give google the same data. They must follow apple guidelines in regards to what data they collect. The only google app on my phone is google maps but i've been using apple maps more and more as it gives the same results. Sometimes with more options. Waze we'll use on longer road trips.

 

[Breezygirl]

Notifications, CarPlay and apps are usually better on IOS.

 

[boomer11]

Notifications, CarPlay and apps are usually better on IOS.

hahah you've never used an android phone if you think this.

notifications and android auto blow their ios counterparts out of the water. like it's not even close. ios 12 is just now trying to improve the notifications. carplay isn't even updated to use waze. the app selection for android auto is much larger.

 

[Breezygirl]

hahah you've never used an android phone if you think this.

notifications and android auto blow their ios counterparts out of the water. like it's not even close. ios 12 is just now trying to improve the notifications. carplay isn't even updated to use waze. the app selection for android auto is much larger.

Actually I have, several androids (Latest Samsungs, OnePlus6, Pixel 2........) I much prefer IOS for notifications.

 

[Txguy82]

Smooth OS, hardware until recent, 3d Touch, airdrop, facetime, find friends, iMessages, customer service, and most importantly the simplicity of it. I don't care for the extra features that Android stuffs their phones with.

I just wish for dark mode, split screen and a better camera. Camera is good but needs to catch up to Sammy.. yes I said it!! Note 9 takes some damn good photos

 

[archer75]

hahah you've never used an android phone if you think this.

notifications and android auto blow their ios counterparts out of the water. like it's not even close. ios 12 is just now trying to improve the notifications. carplay isn't even updated to use waze. the app selection for android auto is much larger.

I have used both android auto and apple car play as I own both phones. I prefer apple car play. I don't care about a large app selection, I care about having the apps I want, and it does. Waze is available in the beta and in the release next month.

Notifications on android are better, i'll give you that. And that's the ONLY thing I give android over IOS. Though I wouldn't say it's by a huge margin, not anymore. And I was an android fanboy for many years starting with the motorola atrix. I've rooted and rom'd. Android was vastly superior to ios once upon a time. Now I feel ios is better. Maybe that will change in the future and i'll go back to android. Who knows. But for now, for me, ios is king.
Same goes for media streamers, I have a ton of them. Including an Nvidia Shield and a Apple TV 4k. The shield used to be better but now I greatly prefer the ATV4k.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I have used both android auto and apple car play as I own both phones. I prefer apple car play. I don't care about a large app selection, I care about having the apps I want, and it does. Waze is available in the beta and in the release next month.

Notifications on android are better, i'll give you that. And that's the ONLY thing I give android over IOS. Though I wouldn't say it's by a huge margin, not anymore. And I was an android fanboy for many years starting with the motorola atrix. I've rooted and rom'd. Android was vastly superior to ios once upon a time. Now I feel ios is better. Maybe that will change in the future and i'll go back to android. Who knows. But for now, for me, ios is king.
Same goes for media streamers, I have a ton of them. Including an Nvidia Shield and a Apple TV 4k. The shield used to be better but now I greatly prefer the ATV4k.

I’ve got a fire stick, chromecast and Apple TV. The fire stick and chromecast were given to me as gifts. I have them connected up to my TV but I don’t use them. I prefer my Apple TV. I’ve been using one since 2010 even when I had a android phone I carried on using my Apple TV. I just prefer it.

I also feel that android doesn’t seem to hold as many advantages over iOS as it used to. There are still some advantages but not ones that are all that important to me.

There were a few things that Apple did in 2014 that killed android for me.

Released a phablet sized phone

Increased the resolution of the plus to 1080p

Allowed 128GB of onboard storage - no need to have an android phone for storage

The 6 plus had an amazing battery life negating the need for removable batteries.

Apple Watch- I really wanted one after the demo. I know Samsung had their watches our first but Apple really sold me on the Apple Watch.

That’s what got me back in 2014. I’m too invested in the Apple ecosystem to switch now.

 

[Lankyman]

It's all about how much you care about your privacy. It goes well beyond ads and spam.

And using google apps on ios doesn't give google the same data. They must follow apple guidelines in regards to what data they collect. The only google app on my phone is google maps but i've been using apple maps more and more as it gives the same results. Sometimes with more options. Waze we'll use on longer road trips.

I would suggest you are swimming against the tide - the future's coming and it's called Google, see link and enjoy.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/29/...-assistant-smart-home-amazon-alexa-smartphone

 

[archer75]

I would suggest you are swimming against the tide - the future's coming and it's called Google, see link and enjoy.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/29/...-assistant-smart-home-amazon-alexa-smartphone

I don't understand what you are trying to say? That google is working to steal more of your data and profit from it? I have a google home and a google home mini and an echo. I can tell you this: the amount of data that google sends out of the house is staggering. On my daily router statistics it sends out more data than any other device or computer on my network by a large amount. What alexa sends out is minuscule compared to google. And this is with NOT even speaking to the damn thing. At least I can unplug it.
Just because google is a large company doesn't mean you should rush to it and give up your privacy. Remember with google YOU are the product, not the customer. I suggest you read up on what companies are doing with your data and as I said before it is so much more than just ads.
But hey, if you're ok with that then that's your business.

 

[decafjava]

I would suggest you are swimming against the tide - the future's coming and it's called Google, see link and enjoy.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/29/...-assistant-smart-home-amazon-alexa-smartphone

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It’s a win for all the companies involved, and it’s a win for those among us who are happy to trade some privacy away for greater convenience.

Pretty sad as far as I'm concerned, I am clearly in the minority though.

 

[Lankyman]

I don't understand what you are trying to say? That google is working to steal more of your data and profit from it? I have a google home and a google home mini and an echo. I can tell you this: the amount of data that google sends out of the house is staggering. On my daily router statistics it sends out more data than any other device or computer on my network by a large amount. What alexa sends out is minuscule compared to google. And this is with NOT even speaking to the damn thing. At least I can unplug it.
Just because google is a large company doesn't mean you should rush to it and give up your privacy. Remember with google YOU are the product, not the customer. I suggest you read up on what companies are doing with your data and as I said before it is so much more than just ads.
But hey, if you're ok with that then that's your business.

And can you tell me specifically how this outflow of data is affecting your daily life?

 

[archer75]

And can you tell me specifically how this outflow of data is affecting your daily life?

Again, it's all about how much you care about your privacy. If you don't care than it doesn't matter to YOU and that's fine for you. Other people do care. And if more people educated themselves on the topic i'd bet more would care.

 

[Lankyman]

Again, it's all about how much you care about your privacy. If you don't care than it doesn't matter to YOU and that's fine for you. Other people do care. And if more people educated themselves on the topic i'd bet more would care.

But that wasn't the question I was asking. I asked you a specific question and I'm assuming you don't really have an answer.

There are far to many sensationalist headlines about this subject which many people love to seize on. However, when these people are asked the question I asked you they can't provide an answer but simply try to deflect.

 

[archer75]

But that wasn't the question I was asking. I asked you a specific question and I'm assuming you don't really have an answer.

There are far to many sensationalist headlines about this subject which many people love to seize on. However, when these people are asked the question I asked you they can't provide an answer but simply try to deflect.

Because there's nothing I can say that would satisfy you. You don't care. What google is sending back from their assistants is all the audio it records. Whether you are asking a question or not. Everything that takes place in that room is going to google. Every private conversation you have. Everything. Alexa sends data back based upon the requests you ask as is expected. But not so with google. Alexa has had some bugs were it sent a private conversation to a persons contact, seemingly on it's own.
How does that affect my daily life? Ads targeted to you obviously, news that is fed to you, Social media in an attempt to manipulate you(facebook has done experiments with this) and many other ways. I believe it was the podcast "how stuff works" that covered the facebook part of this.
Could I go through days without being affected? Sure. At least I think so. I could share my private life with everyone on the planet and perhaps it wouldn't affect me. But do I want to? Do I like that? No. And that's enough for me.

 

[eltoslightfoot]

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Pretty sad as far as I'm concerned, I am clearly in the minority though.

I bet you do what I do. Use google as little as possible. Don’t make your home a smart home. Use Apple and Linux as much as possible. Very little to no social media account usage. So much of the IOT is really stupid. It really doesn’t add much value. I can see in my fridge! Or, I could, uh, just open the door. Etc., etc.,

 

[decafjava]

I bet you do what I do. Use google as little as possible. Don’t make your home a smart home. Use Apple and Linux as much as possible. Very little to no social media account usage. So much of the IOT is really stupid. It really doesn’t add much value. I can see in my fridge! Or, I could, uh, just open the door. Etc., etc.,

I am decreasing social media, sadly Facebook is the only way to communicate with many of my family and friends but I recently cleaned up my "like" and friend list. I use duck duck go and even use encrypted Google searches through DDG.

No smart home for me!

 

[IowaLynn]

Google has a repository of all my purchases that were done using my gmail account. All of it. Like a bank transaction list.

Applying facial recognition on Google Photos and grouping them. Amazon too. Can be used to scan live feeds from public places or 60k people in a sports station.

The monolithic structure of Linux has been a subject of discussion too.

Routers can be a target and compromised. No one here but some never change default password or firmware or it’s out of date. WPA3 will be welcomed.

 

[Harthag]

Waze is available in the beta and in the release next month.

Since when? I'm running Public Beta 9. Is it in the developer beta?

 

[archer75]

Since when? I'm running Public Beta 9. Is it in the developer beta?

I believe so. People are posted videos of them running waze in apple car play so it must be the developer beta.
Probably like how you can't get shortcuts in the ios public beta but you can in the developer beta.

 

[Harthag]

I believe so. People are posted videos of them running waze in apple car play so it must be the developer beta.

Interesting. I think you're right. I just watched this video, fast forward to 1:43:

I can't wait for this to become official. I will have almost zero use for Android once this happens.

 

[Oridus]

I prefer iOS to Android for a few reasons. I used to be pretty hardcore anti Apple and pro Android up until about 2012. It was all over from there. I'm not saying that Android is bad, necessarily. However out of personal experience, iOS has given me a better experience than Android ever has. Here are some of the things that do it for me.

• The Ecosystem: For me, personally, there is no other suite of mobile electronics that work together nearly as well as what my Apple products do. I mean, from my Apple Watch, to my Airpods, my 3x Apple TVs (Soon to be 4), my Macbook, iPad etc etc, the ability to have them speak together the way they do with very little setup needed is a huge plus. I don't want to have to worry about having to get this app, or that app and set it up just to get two devices to speak to each other. The fact that iOS has a lot of my personal needs for content and capability syncing built in, it's a HUGE plus.

• App Store: Ever since I've switched to iOS, the quality of applications has been very clear to me in comparison to their Android counterparts. I'm not saying that there aren't bad apps on iOS, but Apple does a much better job at weeding out the crap compared to Google. I've yet to see a random advertisement pop ups on my phone's home screen or notification tray advertisements, yet I see Android users almost daily with them on their phones. It's all down to what they're downloading, and sure, the Android savvy know how to avoid this, but it shouldn't be something I have to worry about.

• Updates: It goes without saying, Apple wins this battle hands down, and always has. Something goes wrong? Apple has a fix. Yearly major updates for 3-5 years depending on the phone, and more than that sometimes for Macbooks. It's amazing. I've seen my wife wait 8-9 months to get the latest version of Android.

• Done Right: It doesn't bother me all THAT much if Apple isn't the first to the game with certain features, but when they do get them, they do it right. They generally have a much better success rate in my personal experience with features when they add them to their phones over the Android counterparts. For example, fingerprint sensors in the phones I had used up until the iPhone got touch ID were hit and miss, and I had used quite a few starting with the Motorola Atrix.

• Random Features: 3D Touch, iMessage, Facetime, and iCloud (Especially iCloud) to name a few are features that just work so well within the iOS ecosystem that it would really take a lot for me to switch back to Android. I mean, let's face it, the compressed images and videos that happens between Android phones is still pretty bad, even with the enhanced messaging services on LTE. iCloud backup is probably my biggest though. As someone who has two phones upgraded every year (Work/Personal), being able to backup and restore with iCloud is HUGE. Not to mention the peace of mind it provides.

• Too Old To Tinker: I'm 32 and I love tech. However, even though I realize 32 isn't that old, at 32 with wife and kid, I realize I personally am growing less in love with the tinkering side to get things to do what I want them to do. I used to root and rom and jailbreak and this and that and the other. I simply no longer have the time and desire to do so just to get a few more features or to change the way my phone looks every other day. I personally would like my devices to just work when I need to used it to be productive in my family's life, or take a picture of my daughter at her dance recital. I don't want my camera app to just fail because the ROM wasn't stable for whatever reason. I've done it, I had fun doing it, however it's something to reflect on in the past, as I move the tech side of my life to be based around overall productivity. I no longer need my tech to be outwardly different, just efficient. iOS does this for me.

These are just a few things that make iOS important to me, and a far better operating system for myself than Android. I don't care who's first, or if the Note 8 has 6+ gigs of ram. It doesn't change the fact that I believe Android is extremely fragmented, and it's performance and overall efficiency and productivity suffers from it for my needs.

 

[archer75]

• Too Old To Tinker: I'm 32 and I love tech. However, even though I realize 32 isn't that old, at 32 with wife and kid, I realize I personally am growing less in love with the tinkering side to get things to do what I want them to do. I used to root and rom and jailbreak and this and that and the other. I simply no longer have the time and desire to do so just to get a few more features or to change the way my phone looks every other day. I personally would like my devices to just work when I need to used it to be productive in my family's life, or take a picture of my daughter at her dance recital. I don't want my camera app to just fail because the ROM wasn't stable for whatever reason. I've done it, I had fun doing it, however it's something to reflect on in the past, as I move the tech side of my life to be based around overall productivity. I no longer need my tech to be outwardly different, just efficient. iOS does this for me.

I absolutely agree. Ecosystem, updates, clearly superior. But I agree with this point to a "T". I'm 42. I've tinkered with computers since I was a kid on a first Tandy from radio shack. We had the original pong console. Atari and so on. I'd spend late lights on the bulletin boards or going to egghead software. Built all sorts of computers over the years, water cooled gaming PC's, HTPC's, servers, etc. Now I just don't have the will anymore to mess with that stuff. Or the time. I just want it to work. I've ditched HTPC's to go with streaming devices. Downsized and simplified my server. I don't often have a need to use my desktop anymore. I also used to mod cars but got away from that awhile back. Now it's taking care of a house and family.
My time is too valuable and there's many other things that are much more worthwhile to be doing.
I do still tinker from time to time for fun and because I love gadgets. But it's no where near what I used to do.