Other Why do you prefer ios over android?

[boomer11]

Because there's nothing I can say that would satisfy you. You don't care. What google is sending back from their assistants is all the audio it records. Whether you are asking a question or not. Everything that takes place in that room is going to google. Every private conversation you have. Everything.

you have a source on this?

 

[ANTAWNM26]

And can you tell me specifically how this outflow of data is affecting your daily life?

Your joking right?

 

[ANTAWNM26]

But that wasn't the question I was asking. I asked you a specific question and I'm assuming you don't really have an answer.

There are far to many sensationalist headlines about this subject which many people love to seize on. However, when these people are asked the question I asked you they can't provide an answer but simply try to deflect.

He answered your question. PRIVACY!!!! It’s being intruded upon every day in many aspects. As far as physically affecting none. Smh

 

[eltoslightfoot]

I prefer iOS to Android for a few reasons. I used to be pretty hardcore anti Apple and pro Android up until about 2012. It was all over from there. I'm not saying that Android is bad, necessarily. However out of personal experience, iOS has given me a BETTER experience than Android ever has. Here are some of the things that do it for me.

• The Ecosystem: For me, personally, there is no other suite of mobile electronics that work together nearly as well as what my Apple products do. I mean, from my Apple Watch, to my Airpods, my 3x Apple TVs (Soon to be 4), my Macbook, iPad etc etc, the ability to have them speak together the way they do with very little setup needed is a huge plus. I don't want to have to worry about having to get this app, or that app and set it up just to get two devices to speak to each other. The fact that iOS has a lot of my personal needs for content and capability syncing built in, it's a HUGE plus.

• App Store: Ever since I've switched to iOS, the quality of applications has been very clear to me in comparison to their Android counterparts. I'm not saying that there aren't bad apps on iOS, but Apple does a much better job at weeding out the crap compared to Google. I've yet to see a random advertisement pop ups on my phone's home screen or notification tray advertisements, yet I see Android users almost daily with them on their phones. It's all down to what they're downloading, and sure, the Android savvy know how to avoid this, but it shouldn't be something I have to worry about.

• Updates: It goes without saying, Apple wins this battle hands down, and always has. Something goes wrong? Apple has a fix. Yearly major updates for 3-5 years depending on the phone, and more than that sometimes for Macbooks. It's amazing. I've seen my wife wait 8-9 months to get the latest version of Android.

• Done Right: It doesn't bother me all THAT much if Apple isn't the first to the game with certain features, but when they do get them, they do it right. They generally have a much better success rate in my personal experience with features when they add them to their phones over the Android counterparts. For example, fingerprint sensors in the phones I had used up until the iPhone got touch ID were hit and miss, and I had used quite a few starting with the Motorola Atrix.

• Random Features: 3D Touch, iMessage, Facetime, and iCloud (Especially iCloud) to name a few are features that just work so well within the iOS ecosystem that it would really take a lot for me to switch back to Android. I mean, let's face it, the compressed images and videos that happens between Android phones is still pretty bad, even with the enhanced messaging services on LTE. iCloud backup is probably my biggest though. As someone who has two phones upgraded every year (Work/Personal), being able to backup and restore with iCloud is HUGE. Not to mention the peace of mind it provides.

• Too Old To Tinker: I'm 32 and I love tech. However, even though I realize 32 isn't that old, at 32 with wife and kid, I realize I personally am growing less in love with the tinkering side to get things to do what I want them to do. I used to root and rom and jailbreak and this and that and the other. I simply no longer have the time and desire to do so just to get a few more features or to change the way my phone looks every other day. I personally would like my devices to just work when I need to used it to be productive in my family's life, or take a picture of my daughter at her dance recital. I don't want my camera app to just fail because the ROM wasn't stable for whatever reason. I've done it, I had fun doing it, however it's something to reflect on in the past, as I move the tech side of my life to be based around overall productivity. I no longer need my tech to be outwardly different, just efficient. iOS does this for me.

These are just a few things that make iOS important to me, and a far better operating system for myself than Android. I don't care who's first, or if the Note 8 has 6+ gigs of ram. It doesn't change the fact that I believe Android is extremely fragmented, and it's performance and overall efficiency and productivity suffers from it for my needs.

It’s like you can read directly into my brain. Although I am a bit older, I agree, with every sentence. Reformed tech tinkerer here too.

 

[DNichter]

I prefer iOS to Android for a few reasons. I used to be pretty hardcore anti Apple and pro Android up until about 2012. It was all over from there. I'm not saying that Android is bad, necessarily. However out of personal experience, iOS has given me a BETTER experience than Android ever has. Here are some of the things that do it for me.

• The Ecosystem: For me, personally, there is no other suite of mobile electronics that work together nearly as well as what my Apple products do. I mean, from my Apple Watch, to my Airpods, my 3x Apple TVs (Soon to be 4), my Macbook, iPad etc etc, the ability to have them speak together the way they do with very little setup needed is a huge plus. I don't want to have to worry about having to get this app, or that app and set it up just to get two devices to speak to each other. The fact that iOS has a lot of my personal needs for content and capability syncing built in, it's a HUGE plus.

• App Store: Ever since I've switched to iOS, the quality of applications has been very clear to me in comparison to their Android counterparts. I'm not saying that there aren't bad apps on iOS, but Apple does a much better job at weeding out the crap compared to Google. I've yet to see a random advertisement pop ups on my phone's home screen or notification tray advertisements, yet I see Android users almost daily with them on their phones. It's all down to what they're downloading, and sure, the Android savvy know how to avoid this, but it shouldn't be something I have to worry about.

• Updates: It goes without saying, Apple wins this battle hands down, and always has. Something goes wrong? Apple has a fix. Yearly major updates for 3-5 years depending on the phone, and more than that sometimes for Macbooks. It's amazing. I've seen my wife wait 8-9 months to get the latest version of Android.

• Done Right: It doesn't bother me all THAT much if Apple isn't the first to the game with certain features, but when they do get them, they do it right. They generally have a much better success rate in my personal experience with features when they add them to their phones over the Android counterparts. For example, fingerprint sensors in the phones I had used up until the iPhone got touch ID were hit and miss, and I had used quite a few starting with the Motorola Atrix.

• Random Features: 3D Touch, iMessage, Facetime, and iCloud (Especially iCloud) to name a few are features that just work so well within the iOS ecosystem that it would really take a lot for me to switch back to Android. I mean, let's face it, the compressed images and videos that happens between Android phones is still pretty bad, even with the enhanced messaging services on LTE. iCloud backup is probably my biggest though. As someone who has two phones upgraded every year (Work/Personal), being able to backup and restore with iCloud is HUGE. Not to mention the peace of mind it provides.

• Too Old To Tinker: I'm 32 and I love tech. However, even though I realize 32 isn't that old, at 32 with wife and kid, I realize I personally am growing less in love with the tinkering side to get things to do what I want them to do. I used to root and rom and jailbreak and this and that and the other. I simply no longer have the time and desire to do so just to get a few more features or to change the way my phone looks every other day. I personally would like my devices to just work when I need to used it to be productive in my family's life, or take a picture of my daughter at her dance recital. I don't want my camera app to just fail because the ROM wasn't stable for whatever reason. I've done it, I had fun doing it, however it's something to reflect on in the past, as I move the tech side of my life to be based around overall productivity. I no longer need my tech to be outwardly different, just efficient. iOS does this for me.

These are just a few things that make iOS important to me, and a far better operating system for myself than Android. I don't care who's first, or if the Note 8 has 6+ gigs of ram. It doesn't change the fact that I believe Android is extremely fragmented, and it's performance and overall efficiency and productivity suffers from it for my needs.

Completely agree with all of this, especially the tinkering part. As I have said before, features are fleeting and a spec here or feature there certainly isn't enough to make me leave the iOS platform. I feel like this is true for most iOS users and something Android users don't think about or realize.

 

[archer75]

you have a source on this?

Just do a search. There are articles out there as well and discussions from owners on reddit. I could also a post a screen shot of data usage. If I use my echo you'll see about 20mb uploading in a 24 hour period. Not using my google home at all, which sits in my bedroom, uploads about 500mb in the same period. That's a pretty significant difference seeing as i'm not using it. The echo is in our family room where people are most of the day and where the tv is located. So a lot more audio to record there yet hardly any data uploaded.

Some info on google still collecting data even when services are turned off, articles like this in regards to google are common:
https://9to5google.com/2017/11/21/android-location-data-triangulation/

 

[IowaLynn]

I found that I can’t purchase Amazon Prime Video on my iPhone X or iPad Pro but I can on my Android phone and tablet.

May not be a boggy but handy.

 

[Lankyman]

Because there's nothing I can say that would satisfy you. You don't care. What google is sending back from their assistants is all the audio it records. Whether you are asking a question or not. Everything that takes place in that room is going to google. Every private conversation you have. Everything. Alexa sends data back based upon the requests you ask as is expected. But not so with google. Alexa has had some bugs were it sent a private conversation to a persons contact, seemingly on it's own.
How does that affect my daily life? Ads targeted to you obviously, news that is fed to you, Social media in an attempt to manipulate you(facebook has done experiments with this) and many other ways. I believe it was the podcast "how stuff works" that covered the facebook part of this.
Could I go through days without being affected? Sure. At least I think so. I could share my private life with everyone on the planet and perhaps it wouldn't affect me. But do I want to? Do I like that? No. And that's enough for me.

Well personally I have all targeted advertising options switched off. I do see ads but they could be anything from a kitchen sink to a bag of jellybeans, totally indiscriminate. I don't have any microphone connected devices so no chance of any of my conversations being used for some notional purpose. I don't even have a webcam on my PC. I don't go anywhere near social media, it's the spawn of the devil.

So although I do make extensive use of Google apps I use them sensibly. They are a great suite of apps and whilst Google will collect information about me it's all pretty innocuous stuff which I'm pretty relaxed about.
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I prefer iOS to Android for a few reasons. I used to be pretty hardcore anti Apple and pro Android up until about 2012. It was all over from there. I'm not saying that Android is bad, necessarily. However out of personal experience, iOS has given me a BETTER experience than Android ever has. Here are some of the things that do it for me.

• The Ecosystem: For me, personally, there is no other suite of mobile electronics that work together nearly as well as what my Apple products do. I mean, from my Apple Watch, to my Airpods, my 3x Apple TVs (Soon to be 4), my Macbook, iPad etc etc, the ability to have them speak together the way they do with very little setup needed is a huge plus. I don't want to have to worry about having to get this app, or that app and set it up just to get two devices to speak to each other. The fact that iOS has a lot of my personal needs for content and capability syncing built in, it's a HUGE plus.

• App Store: Ever since I've switched to iOS, the quality of applications has been very clear to me in comparison to their Android counterparts. I'm not saying that there aren't bad apps on iOS, but Apple does a much better job at weeding out the crap compared to Google. I've yet to see a random advertisement pop ups on my phone's home screen or notification tray advertisements, yet I see Android users almost daily with them on their phones. It's all down to what they're downloading, and sure, the Android savvy know how to avoid this, but it shouldn't be something I have to worry about.

• Updates: It goes without saying, Apple wins this battle hands down, and always has. Something goes wrong? Apple has a fix. Yearly major updates for 3-5 years depending on the phone, and more than that sometimes for Macbooks. It's amazing. I've seen my wife wait 8-9 months to get the latest version of Android.

• Done Right: It doesn't bother me all THAT much if Apple isn't the first to the game with certain features, but when they do get them, they do it right. They generally have a much better success rate in my personal experience with features when they add them to their phones over the Android counterparts. For example, fingerprint sensors in the phones I had used up until the iPhone got touch ID were hit and miss, and I had used quite a few starting with the Motorola Atrix.

• Random Features: 3D Touch, iMessage, Facetime, and iCloud (Especially iCloud) to name a few are features that just work so well within the iOS ecosystem that it would really take a lot for me to switch back to Android. I mean, let's face it, the compressed images and videos that happens between Android phones is still pretty bad, even with the enhanced messaging services on LTE. iCloud backup is probably my biggest though. As someone who has two phones upgraded every year (Work/Personal), being able to backup and restore with iCloud is HUGE. Not to mention the peace of mind it provides.

• Too Old To Tinker: I'm 32 and I love tech. However, even though I realize 32 isn't that old, at 32 with wife and kid, I realize I personally am growing less in love with the tinkering side to get things to do what I want them to do. I used to root and rom and jailbreak and this and that and the other. I simply no longer have the time and desire to do so just to get a few more features or to change the way my phone looks every other day. I personally would like my devices to just work when I need to used it to be productive in my family's life, or take a picture of my daughter at her dance recital. I don't want my camera app to just fail because the ROM wasn't stable for whatever reason. I've done it, I had fun doing it, however it's something to reflect on in the past, as I move the tech side of my life to be based around overall productivity. I no longer need my tech to be outwardly different, just efficient. iOS does this for me.

These are just a few things that make iOS important to me, and a far better operating system for myself than Android. I don't care who's first, or if the Note 8 has 6+ gigs of ram. It doesn't change the fact that I believe Android is extremely fragmented, and it's performance and overall efficiency and productivity suffers from it for my needs.

Just about everything you have said in the above you could be describing Android. So many out of date ideas about Android and what it can do. Bearing mind I run both iOS and Android so I speak from current experience. Most of what you post about Android from your own admission is years out of date. The too old to Tinker piece was priceless. I'm retired and I'm doing more now than I've ever done. You sound like you've given up on life geez a lou. Is Android perfect, absolutely not, is iOS perfect, same reply.

I could spend ages pulling apart your arguments line by line but I doubt it would make any difference. Enjoy your slippers and cocoa.

 

[IowaLynn]

Latest Android spyware, mostly on ASUS, active since 2016 but only recently uncovered.

https://threatpost.com/busygasper-malware-packs-a-simple-but-potent-punch/137050/

 

[Gathomblipoob]

I could spend ages pulling apart your arguments line by line but I doubt it would make any difference. Enjoy your slippers and cocoa.

Instead of insulting him and being condescending, why don't you pull apart his argument?

 

[FFR]

Instead of insulting him and being condescending, why don't you pull apart his argument?

Probably because the other poster was right.

 

[archer75]

Just about everything you have said in the above you could be describing Android. So many out of date ideas about Android and what it can do. Bearing mind I run both iOS and Android so I speak from current experience. Most of what you post about Android from your own admission is years out of date. The too old to Tinker piece was priceless. I'm retired and I'm doing more now than I've ever done. You sound like you've given up on life geez a lou. Is Android perfect, absolutely not, is iOS perfect, same reply.

I could spend ages pulling apart your arguments line by line but I doubt it would make any difference. Enjoy your slippers and cocoa.

Then pull it apart. I have my android phone right here so I can compare. What he posted I would say is absolutely spot on.

You're retired. That's it right there. If I were retired and my kids grown and moved out i'd have a ton of time on my hands too. But I don't, I have to work. I get to spend time with my kids and their activities. I have a lot going on. Such is life. You should really know that. You can't even compare. It's not about being too old it's about not having the time or will and this stage in life. Perhaps when i'm retired i'll pick up some old hobbies again. Though I hope I would have moved on to more meaningful pursuits.

 

[mib1800]

Then pull it apart. I have my android phone right here so I can compare. What he posted I would say is absolutely spot on.

You're retired. That's it right there. If I were retired and my kids grown and moved out i'd have a ton of time on my hands too. But I don't. I have to work. I have to take care of my family. I have a lot going on. Such is life. You should really know that. You can't even compare.

I think most of Android users use the android phone out of box without tinker and without problems...and yet they can still get better capabilities at a much lesser cost...go figure

 

[FFR]

I think most of Android users use the android phone out of box without tinker and without problems...and yet they can still get better capabilities at a much lesser cost...go figure

Yeah android is cheaper....go figure.

 

[mib1800]

Yeah android is cheaper....go figure.

Well iPhone is expensive because apple milk its willing customers to the brink...figured it out nicely

 

[FFR]

Well iPhone is expensive because apple milk its willing customers to the brink...figured it out nicely

Don’t think the iPhone is expensive because of apples milk.

But hey Samsung’s are more affordable.

They cheap out on the small things.
Like ufs instead of nvme and aluminum instead of steel.

Didn’t you get your note 9 for $300 dollars.

 

[Oridus]

Just about everything you have said in the above you could be describing Android. So many out of date ideas about Android and what it can do. Bearing mind I run both iOS and Android so I speak from current experience. Most of what you post about Android from your own admission is years out of date. The too old to Tinker piece was priceless. I'm retired and I'm doing more now than I've ever done. You sound like you've given up on life geez a lou. Is Android perfect, absolutely not, is iOS perfect, same reply.

I could spend ages pulling apart your arguments line by line but I doubt it would make any difference. Enjoy your slippers and cocoa.

And therein lies the problem, in my opinion. People, like yourself, think that everybody should do what you do, and if they don't, then it's wrong. At least that's what I get from this statement, especially the "make any difference" part. Why should you have to make a difference? Opinions are something everyone has.

I'm all for a dialogue about it. I don't think any of what I said is outdated. As someone who works with these devices on a daily basis (iPhone and Android alike), and someone who owns iPhones and has a wife who uses an Android and needs help with it from time to time, I like to believe that I too have a vested knowledge base in order to form such opinions. And in the end, that's exactly what all this is. Subjective based synopsis of the operating systems that we prefer. It naturally will differ from person to person, and that is okay. Nothing wrong with it.

If you'd like to have a decent adult conversation about some of the statements I've made, then please, let me know how my bullet points of why I enjoy iOS over Android differs from your views. Keep in mind, I believe I made it very clear how my statements are my beliefs based on my experiences. I wasn't writing as if it were fact or opinions of everyone else, or anyone else for that matter. I don't think there's a wrong answer to any of this.

p.s. Your little shot at the too old to tinker part is funny. Congratulations on being retired, but you being older than myself doesn't mean that I can't be too old to tinker with cell phones, or want to do it. Again, just because it's your preference, it's not mine. I prefer to focus on productivity at this current age, as when I was in my twenties, single, and without child had no problem spending hours beyond hours tinkering and reading up on the latest roms. Are you sure you're retired? Quips like that are something I usually get from the teens around web forums.

 

[Gathomblipoob]

p.s. Your little shot at the too old to tinker part is funny. Congratulations on being retired, but you being older than myself doesn't mean that I can't be too old to tinker with cell phones, or want to do it.

I'll be 63 in December and I love to tinker with my tech.

I know how you feel, though. It's a personal preference as to whether one wants to tinker with tech or not.

 

[Oridus]

I'll be 63 in December and I love to tinker with my tech.

I know how you feel, though. It's a personal preference as to whether one wants to tinker with tech or not.

Who knows, maybe my choice of words was not the way to go on the too old part. I just feel like I've moved on from that stage in my love for tech, and have outgrown it. To me that makes me in myself, too old to tinker. Not really implying the same for everybody else.

That being said, happy birthday and keep on keeping on. Everybody's gotta have something, it's what keeps us going in this ever changing society.

 

[boomer11]

Just do a search. There are articles out there as well and discussions from owners on reddit. I could also a post a screen shot of data usage. If I use my echo you'll see about 20mb uploading in a 24 hour period. Not using my google home at all, which sits in my bedroom, uploads about 500mb in the same period. That's a pretty significant difference seeing as i'm not using it. The echo is in our family room where people are most of the day and where the tv is located. So a lot more audio to record there yet hardly any data uploaded.

Some info on google still collecting data even when services are turned off, articles like this in regards to google are common:
https://9to5google.com/2017/11/21/android-location-data-triangulation/

you read an article on location collection and somehow ended up with your google assistant listening in on every single convo in your home and sending it to google? lol that pretty funny.

so do you have a source on google listening in 24/7 in your house and sending those convos back to google? fyi, reddit users dont typically count as a "source" lol.....

 

[archer75]

you read an article on location collection and somehow ended up with your google assistant listening in on every single convo in your home and sending it to google? lol that pretty funny.

so do you have a source on google listening in 24/7 in your house and sending those convos back to google? fyi, reddit users dont typically count as a "source" lol.....

No, I posted a separate article that I though was interesting.

I didn't say reddit was a source. I just said people were discussing it there. Just search man! I don't know where the article was from, i'd have to search to find it again too. But looking at the enormous amount of data it's sending out what else could it be? All it does is record audio.

 

[Pipper99]

And therein lies the problem, in my opinion. People, like yourself, think that everybody should do what you do, and if they don't, then it's wrong. At least that's what I get from this statement, especially the "make any difference" part. Why should you have to make a difference? Opinions are something everyone has.

I'm all for a dialogue about it. I don't think any of what I said is outdated. As someone who works with these devices on a daily basis (iPhone and Android alike), and someone who owns iPhones and has a wife who uses an Android and needs help with it from time to time, I like to believe that I too have a vested knowledge base in order to form such opinions. And in the end, that's exactly what all this is. Subjective based synopsis of the operating systems that we prefer. It naturally will differ from person to person, and that is okay. Nothing wrong with it.

If you'd like to have a decent adult conversation about some of the statements I've made, then please, let me know how my bullet points of why I enjoy iOS over Android differs from your views. Keep in mind, I believe I made it very clear how my statements are my beliefs based on my experiences. I wasn't writing as if it were fact or opinions of everyone else, or anyone else for that matter. I don't think there's a wrong answer to any of this.

p.s. Your little shot at the too old to tinker part is funny. Congratulations on being retired, but you being older than myself doesn't mean that I can't be too old to tinker with cell phones, or want to do it. Again, just because it's your preference, it's not mine. I prefer to focus on productivity at this current age, as when I was in my twenties, single, and without child had no problem spending hours beyond hours tinkering and reading up on the latest roms. Are you sure you're retired? Quips like that are something I usually get from the teens around web forums.

I, for one, enjoyed your original post and the above response very much: it was thoughtful, well-written, and respectful of others' preferences. I have an iPhone X and a Galaxy Note 8 (prior to the Note, I had a Pixel XL), and I’ve had almost every iPhone model except the original. I’ve dived deep into Android in an attempt to determine which platform works best for me. Current Android is great, but I still prefer iOS for the reasons that you discuss. I, too, would love to see an adult conversation about the merits and deficiencies of each platform, but some inevitably feel the need to descend into snark. Thank you, again.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I found that I can’t purchase Amazon Prime Video on my iPhone X or iPad Pro but I can on my Android phone and tablet.

May not be a boggy but handy.

You can but you need to go to the website. You can’t do an in app purchase.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I think most of Android users use the android phone out of box without tinker and without problems...and yet they can still get better capabilities at a much lesser cost...go figure

Better is subjective and something you seem incapable of understanding or accepting on these threads. Unless someone has your exact mindset or opinion, you mock them.

How about someone just saying they use iOS/Android simply because they prefer the interface and the features it provides? Why can’t you respect that?

 

[Lankyman]

Latest Android spyware, mostly on ASUS, active since 2016 but only recently uncovered.

https://threatpost.com/busygasper-malware-packs-a-simple-but-potent-punch/137050/

And what? are they spying on you in the bedroom, in the bathroom or what. Do you fear there are persons in trench coats watching you from the shadows? Don’t forget iOS hasn’t been immune to malware.

Talk about a succour for a bold headline.
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Then pull it apart. I have my android phone right here so I can compare. What he posted I would say is absolutely spot on.

You're retired. That's it right there. If I were retired and my kids grown and moved out i'd have a ton of time on my hands too. But I don't, I have to work. I get to spend time with my kids and their activities. I have a lot going on. Such is life. You should really know that. You can't even compare. It's not about being too old it's about not having the time or will and this stage in life. Perhaps when i'm retired i'll pick up some old hobbies again. Though I hope I would have moved on to more meaningful pursuits.

Have you ever heard the term about placing all you eggs in one basket? That in a nutshell is the Apple business model.

They get consumers in so deep they feel they cannot afford to get out. That is why I use both systems with minimal investment in either.

But to keep using old cliches about Android fragmentation and how Apple just works is no longer a valid statement.

Also let's be honest about this, iOS is stultifyingly boring and restrictive.