I can only conclude you don't see the irony in your post.
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Premium prices doesn't necessarily been you're getting a better product. Take off those Apple goggles.
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I think what’s not to like is that it doesn’t do the same job. Android phones miss all of the iOS features mentioned earlier.
I’d rather pay more for an iOS device and get those features than save money and miss out.
Also, buying iOS means I can avoid using Google products and services, which is also a big plus in my book.
No continuity, handoff, iMessage and calling across all devices. No synchronised photo library/albums in the cloud and on device. No Instant Hotspot or device unlocking.
You own an iMac, iPhone , iPad , Apple TV and you haven’t tried iCloud.
Weird.
Yes, if you haven’t tried Apple services, iMessage, continuity, handoff, airdrop etc. Between your devices, then you don’t get “Apple users”.
But that’s just it. The hardware is not as good.
Ufs instead of nvme, aluminum instead of stainless steel, no Dolby vision support, no 3D facial recognition, bezels and/or chins etc. , it adds up.
Could care less what you like or not.
Doesn’t really affect me or what I purchase?
But you are in this thread trying to validate your decisions.
I no longer use any google services either.
After the last scandal, I closed all my gmail accounts and switched to duck duck go for search.
And my iPhones battery life has improved quite a bit. Turns out gmail doesn’t offer push email on the iOS mail app, it’s fetch....unless you download their app.
Total twaddle. I think you need to look at YouTube, plenty Android hardware reviews on there. These posts are getting increasingly desperate.
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And yet my gmail is constantly updating whenever I get a new email. I do use the gmail app however as Apple Mail is as poor now as it was a decade ago.
Your self-righteous indignation re: Google services did make me laugh if nothing else though.
Well said.You have to pay premium price to get a Mac, iPhone, apple tv, watch and iPad in order to have these functionalities.
You get what you pay for.
Cool.
But You get what you pay for.
Take for example your note 9.
You got for what 300 dollars, it doesn’t support Dolby vision on Netflix, or record 4K at 60fps....well without the 5 min cap.
You think you got a deal, But it wasn’t worth much to begin with.
Again you get what you pay for.
Why.
I’m not the one complaining about Apple pricing. If I were I wouldn’t have bought an iPhone, an iMac, and an iPad. And if I did I would use all the features it offered, maybe they belong to your roommate/partner, who knows?
Google fanboys love to down play privacy.
It makes me laugh.
You don't always get what you pay for though, far from it. You come across as salesmans dream.
4K on a mobile, why do you even need it, the human eye can't even see detail so small. Give me a moment to get some popcorn before your next response.
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I'm retired not some teen in their bedroom.
Maybe you don’t get what you pay for.
Perhaps if I bought a lenevo I would feel the same.
Hahahaha
It’s a 4K camera not a 4k display.
Your hilarious.
Thought android offered the same features as the iPhone, guess if they don’t your position is “who needs it?”
Like you get for your IPX a lower ppi screen, worse lte, worse BT, lower RAM, lower than 512gb storage, worse water proofing, no stereo audio recording, no stylus, no headphone jack, worse front and back camera, ...I'm just too lazy list the many more....
....at 1/2 the price of IPX....so you definitely don't get what you paid for getting a IPX
These posts are becoming a little much (I am guilty too). Ultimately, it all comes down to personal preference and what that individual values. There is no right or wrong choice. Arguing back and forth about a completely subjective topic makes little sense. There are positives and negatives of each platform, which are pretty clear, but it ultimately just comes to what the individual values. Specs and features don't mean a whole lot in the end.
It’s been a while since I had an android phone. But I was turned off because you couldn’t get the new releases without buying a new phone ( same with Windows phones). The releases were manufacturer modified and had limited software support once new versions came out. You could do your own install from open source but I didn’t want to spend my time figuring that out and managing subsequent updates.
Is this still true?
Apple gets criticized for performance, but at least they try to maintain support for older hardware.
Is this still true?
Apple gets criticized for performance, but at least they try to maintain support for older hardware.
The way I see it is this - Android and Apple have been copying each other for years now, to the point where there's so little difference for it not to matter.
Now I realise a certain percentage of Apple and Android fans will cry 'no, never!' but they are denying the obvious. Again like it or not the hardware on both platforms is incredibly similar with many of the parts coming from the same source.
That leaves Apple fans in something of a quandary as Apple charges so much more for similar hardware. They are then left with little to decry Android over except some notional non-argument about privacy.
Android fans will point to greater customisation, less restrictions and greater innovation.
At the end of the day however, there's no getting away from the fact that Apple does make huge profits on it's hardware.
No one knows better than Apple that this situation is unlikely to carry on in the longer term, which is why they are now scrambling to diversify into other sectors e.g. transport, TV etc.
As said before, I have quite a few Apple products. However, now that the opposition has undeniably caught up (most non-partisan industry insiders will agree with this) I don't see any justification to carry on paying a huge premium for a device that someone else can provide for less, which is just as good and provides very similar features.
That's it in a nutshell.
Now I realise a certain percentage of Apple and Android fans will cry 'no, never!' but they are denying the obvious. Again like it or not the hardware on both platforms is incredibly similar with many of the parts coming from the same source.
That leaves Apple fans in something of a quandary as Apple charges so much more for similar hardware. They are then left with little to decry Android over except some notional non-argument about privacy.
Android fans will point to greater customisation, less restrictions and greater innovation.
At the end of the day however, there's no getting away from the fact that Apple does make huge profits on it's hardware.
No one knows better than Apple that this situation is unlikely to carry on in the longer term, which is why they are now scrambling to diversify into other sectors e.g. transport, TV etc.
As said before, I have quite a few Apple products. However, now that the opposition has undeniably caught up (most non-partisan industry insiders will agree with this) I don't see any justification to carry on paying a huge premium for a device that someone else can provide for less, which is just as good and provides very similar features.
That's it in a nutshell.
Like you get for your IPX a lower ppi screen, worse lte, worse BT, lower RAM, lower than 512gb storage, worse water proofing, no stereo audio recording, no stylus, no headphone jack, worse front and back camera, ...I'm just too lazy list the many more....
....at 1/2 the price of IPX....so you definitely don't get what you paid for getting a IPX
Is note9 using nvme? Nope Ufs.
Does the note9 have Dolby vision? nope hdr10+
Can the the note 9 record in 4K 60fps? Yeah for 5 min
. 3D facial recognition? Maybe next year.
Dated design? Hell yeah.
Samsung cheaped out on the galaxy note 9.
That’s why you keep comparing it to the 2017 iPhone X.
New ones are coming out in a couple of weeks
.....but don’t think you will want to make any comparisons then.
The last time I was on Android it was 2012 and backing up was an absolute nightmare. You couldn’t do it with one click and needed to back up various things on the device to various different apps etc. If you were using a Samsung you couldn’t restore to a HTC etc. Now I’ve moved away from that and regardless of whether Android has caught up or not, I’m settled into using iOS on my fourth iPhone in a row.
I use photo stream, FaceTime, with my family as we all have iPhones too and love that I can answer calls from my Apple Watch and iPad as well as answer text messages etc. It’s a hell of a change for me if I went back to Android and I don’t doubt it’s also a fabulous OS. I don’t buy the latest iPhone as of my last upgrade as prices have bordered on taking the piss, so I buy last years model which is rich on features and considerably cheaper. I end up paying less than current top Android flagships too no doubt lol.
It’s great to have two very good options in the market to suit different needs and tastes. I’ve never felt restricted or frustrated by iOS really. My only issue is how expensive it’s suddenly got but I can get around that.
I may be wrong, but I think that the Pixel and Essential phone are the only one's that get updates at the time they are released. Samsung usually follows up fairly quickly and has committed to supporting phones for a couple years, although the updates take longer since Samsung needs to add their specific stuff to the build. Apple has done great with supporting older hardware, big advantage if that is important to you.
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That's fair. I agree, both are becoming very similar, but with some slight advantages to each. I think Apple has an edge when it comes to security/privacy (mostly out of the box) and ecosystem, while Android has the edge when it comes to customization, flexibility, and bleeding edge features. In the end, I think people are pretty well set in what they prefer. At least more tech savvy customers.
Edit: I wanted to add though, I think Google sees the value in a more closed down ecosystem and may eventually go that route. It will be interesting to see how their current base of customers will respond to that. I'd like to hear from some people on that topic.
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The Apple ecosystem is very tough to break. Whether or not you can do all of these things one way or another through Android, it just doesn't feel worth it when everything works so well through Apple. That's the glue that keeps Apple customers coming back.
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$1000 is way too much for a phone period. That includes the Note 9 and iPhone X. You can try justifying it with a bunch of features, but it won't sway my opinion.
Though, if I had to pay $1000 for a phone? I would go iPhone X 2018 or X+ 2018. I know I can get more mileage out of iOS than Samsung's Android skinned devices.
Apple is the only company willing to update a phone after 5 years. Plus, with the software + hardware coming from one company, it makes it easier for developers to push app updates out or design newer apps.
If I had to go back to Android, I would go something with Pure Android. I might make an exception to that if it were a Sony device, but that's a huge if. Pure Android, especially the Pixel and Android One program, have the fastest updates/cleanest software/less bloatware.
Though, if I had to pay $1000 for a phone? I would go iPhone X 2018 or X+ 2018. I know I can get more mileage out of iOS than Samsung's Android skinned devices.
Apple is the only company willing to update a phone after 5 years. Plus, with the software + hardware coming from one company, it makes it easier for developers to push app updates out or design newer apps.
If I had to go back to Android, I would go something with Pure Android. I might make an exception to that if it were a Sony device, but that's a huge if. Pure Android, especially the Pixel and Android One program, have the fastest updates/cleanest software/less bloatware.
The value of the iPhone is in the software, not the hardware.
Is note9 using nvme? Nope Ufs.
Does the note9 have Dolby vision? nope hdr10+
Can the the note 9 record in 4K 60fps? Yeah for 5 min.
3D facial recognition? Maybe next year.
Dated design? Hell yeah.
Samsung cheaped out on the galaxy note 9.
That’s why you keep comparing it to the 2017 iPhone X.
New ones are coming out in a couple of weeks.....but don’t think you will want to make any comparisons then.
Nvme vs ufs2.1 ... What is the difference?
Who cares? It is just one component of many in the phone.
Overall performance using entire system benchmark, ipx comes out short. E.g. Antutu ipx:200k. Note9:280k
P.s. next iPhone...talk when it comes out. Now it is just air.
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Difference is Samsung is ripping off customers.
Isn’t that what you keep accusing Apple of?
I would care if I was spending the same amount of money but getting less than a year old phone. The iPhone X is a year old phone, and nvme is not the only component that Samsung cheaped out on.
Sure ram helps with the antutu score, but iPhone X slaughters the note 9 in geek bench.
Wonder how the a12 will do?
Again no point in comparing a 2017 model with a 2018 model.
New iPhones in a couple of weeks.
Chin up you got your note 9 for 300 dollars.
You get what you pay for.
The high end android devices are worth the money but the cheap Chinese phones are not. You have to spend money if you want a good experience. Paying £300 and expecting to get the same experience as you would for a £1,000 device just isn’t going to happen.Like you get for your IPX a lower ppi screen, worse lte, worse BT, lower RAM, lower than 512gb storage, worse water proofing, no stereo audio recording, no stylus, no headphone jack, worse front and back camera, ...I'm just too lazy list the many more....
....at 1/2 the price of IPX....so you definitely don't get what you paid for getting a IPX
IPX is good in CPU ONLY geekbench...but even more pathetic given such high CPU score and nvme
, ipx comes out as laggard when overall system is tested. Pay $1000 which us twice the price of note9 further rub salt into the wounds hahaha.Cheaping out is really iPhone with just faceID whereas note 9 got 3 times as many with iris,facial and touchID