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On the contrary that's better then what Apple did.

What was happening on iOS-

Phone battery is defective. Battery unable to provide required charge. Owner is unaware of this and doesn't know about coconut battery and these other apps. Phone seems sluggish and is showing stuttering.Owner goes to the store. The store app is set up in such a way that unless battery health gets below 80% it will show up as fine on Apple's diags. Battery checks out fine. Owner is fed up with the slowdown. Goes out and buys a new iPhone using trade-in.


What reportedly happens on Android(no citation of any company as of yet)-

Phone shuts down. Owner goes to the store, issue is recognised as that of the battery. Buys a new battery. Problem solved.

See how easy it is? Unfortunately for Tim Cook, the above results in 1 less sale which is why he didn't do that.

Also I am still not sure if they are cheating in that battery health setting app so that people do not buy that discounted battery. My iPhone 6 battery health is 82% on coconut battery. On iOS 12 the inbuilt settings app shows health at 91%. Judging by the battery life, coconut battery seems to be more accurate to me.
On the contrary.

Here's what was happening on IOS:

Power management kicks in to keep the phone running if the battery can't supply the proper voltage. User notices it or not. User cares or not. Some users may persue this further and get conflicting information. Maybe user gets battery replace and perhaps user notices a difference or not. (This is first hand anecdotal information)

Here's what was happening on Android:

Phone shuts down pisses user off because user does not know what is going on. (Sample citation given above)
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I glanced over the whole manual and I did not find a single page where it states that trying to insert the CPU wrong will damage it beyond repair. If it's stated in small fine print it might as well not be there. And this is only for the Intel CPUs where the pins are on the motherboard. With AMD the pins are on the CPU so it's even easier to bend one.

I bet you guys did not even bother to download the Note 5 manual and check out what was written in it. For your reference, this is the warning I am talking about


http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...N920V_Galaxy-Note5_EN_UM_LL_5.1_OGE_FINAL.pdf


Warning: Be sure to insert your S Pen with the nib pointed inward. Inserting the S Pen the wrong way can cause it to become stuck and can damage the pen and your phone.
Guess you missed the sentence in the manual about "professional installation". That eliminates all of this folderol in trying to compare a cpu installation with the insertion of the s-pen that can break the phone. Gee, I wonder if professional installation should have been noted in the Galaxy manual.

And just like how Apple can't find a way to fix people's stupidity, Samsung can't either. Samsung showed the users how the Spen is to be inserted in the illustration. You use a device how it is meant to be used in the manual. If you experiment with it, it's on you not Samsung.

The MacBook keyboard stops working if dust gets under it. Is there anything given in the manual?
What pray-tell does a keyboard have to do with anything. You can't legislate stupidity, but you can help mitigate the consequences of bad design decisions. Samsung did not do this. Fail.

No,it's a very good example as turning it off doesn't turn it off. The first switch on the planet which behaves like this.
Sure, I can ruin my phone by toggling the toggle the wrong way.o_O

Also don’t forget the auto brightness toggle. It isn’t located in display and brightness like it’s supposed to be. You have to dig inside a convoluted series of menus to find a simple toggle. An amateur will need a google search to find out where it is.
Yep, the lines at the apple store must be out the door as apple is fixing broken phones for this one.

Benchmarks can only be manipulated upwards, not downwards. No company wants to make their product look bad. Geekbench showed the score being halved and it was not a manipulation on the part of Geekbench because Apple confirmed later that what Geekbench was showing was genuine.

Apple only gave a way to solve it after 30 lawsuits were filed against it.
Now you are putting parameters about how benchmarks can be manipulated. What can be manipulated up, can be manipulated down.

You can't prove the correlation between a lawsuit and ios update, as you can't prove what was in the works in apple software development.
 
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Kids are back to school tomorrow (at least in the UK) so hopefully this thread will simply die then - RIP. :rolleyes:
 
These Android versus iOS threads are pointless. At the end of the day everyone thinks their OS and device is best. Even when people like myself state they are both good with little to choose between them people then argue with that postilion too.

It's far better to just stick with what suits you and forget anything else.


You obviously didn't think they were pointless in your countless replies defending Android and knocking people's opinions about iOS (including mine). I mean, you did offer up at least 38 replies to this thread yourself. Hard to believe you think it's pointless if you're actively engaged in the post.

Kids are back to school tomorrow (at least in the UK) so hopefully this thread will simply die then - RIP. :rolleyes:

But you'll still be here, right?
 
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On the contrary.

Here's what was happening on IOS:

Power management kicks in to keep the phone running if the battery can't supply the proper voltage. User notices it or not. User cares or not. Some users may persue this further and get conflicting information. Maybe user gets battery replace and perhaps user notices a difference or not. (This is first hand anecdotal information)

Here's what was happening on Android:

Phone shuts down pisses user off because user does not know what is going on. (Sample citation given above)
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Guess you missed the sentence in the manual about "professional installation". That eliminates all of this folderol in trying to compare a cpu installation with the insertion of the s-pen that can break the phone. Gee, I wonder if professional installation should have been noted in the Galaxy manual.


What pray-tell does a keyboard have to do with anything. You can't legislate stupidity, but you can help mitigate the consequences of bad design decisions. Samsung did not do this. Fail.


Sure, I can ruin my phone by toggling the toggle the wrong way.o_O


Yep, the lines at the apple store must be out the door as apple is fixing broken phones for this one.


Now you are putting parameters about how benchmarks can be manipulated. What can be manipulated up, can be manipulated down.

You can't prove the correlation between a lawsuit and ios update, as you can't prove what was in the works in apple software development.

I admire your Apple enthusiasm. Seems like a wash to me. Both have issues.
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The OP has 4 total posts. Troll thread that mods should lock.

Why? It's not the OP fault, it's closed minded fanboys and fangirls arguing about their preferred OS. Nothing new.

I found the title interesting thought i would learn a few things... Nope.

Some people are closed minded and can't get past their admiration for a particular device or the company that makes them.
 
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I admire your Apple enthusiasm. Seems like a wash to me. Both have issues.
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Why? It's not the OP fault, it's closed minded fanboys and fangirls arguing about their preferred OS. Nothing new.

I found the title interesting thought i would learn a few things... Nope.

Some people are closed minded and can't get past their admiration for a particular device or the company that makes them.
There are all different ways to discuss things, said in the vernacular of online Internet forums, there are all ways to spin these discussions on all sides.
 
The OP has 4 total posts. Troll thread that mods should lock.
If the thread has been reported the mods may take a suitable action such as moving to the alternatives forums.

There are many other threads comparing iOS and android and invariably the same types of themes emerge, this thread should be merged with one of the others.
 
The one thing I’ve learned from this thread is many iPhone users have given their reasons for choosing iOS, but none of the reasons have been good enough for two or three members who prefer Android.

I mean, as long as someone on the internet approves of your purchase then it’s good to go, right?
 
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Phone shuts down pisses user off because user does not know what is going on. (Sample citation given above)

Whenever a phone randomly shuts down,user realises a problem and its taken to the manufacturer for repair. Samsung/Android have to solve the problem for the user. They could have issued a throttle update, not caused the phone to shut down but make it extremely slow causing the user to upgrade but they didn't. That's a hard thing to do.

Guess you missed the sentence in the manual about "professional installation". That eliminates all of this folderol in trying to compare a cpu installation with the insertion of the s-pen that can break the phone.

Ah I thought so. Small fine print. Even if Samsung had put that in the manual, no user would read it making it redundant. All that would serve is free the company of the liability of compensation but it doesn't excuse bad design.


wonder if professional installation should have been noted in the Galaxy manual.

There is a warning in the manual and unlike the Intel manual, its visible.


ay-tell does a keyboard have to do with anything.

Its the same concept. Nothing stated in the manual but your laptop is destroyed if a speck of dust gets underneath the keyboard. Why hasn't Apple stated in the manual to put in a keyboard cover?

Sure, I can ruin my phone by toggling the toggle the wrong way.o_O


Yep, the lines at the apple store must be out the door as apple is fixing broken phones for this one.
That was in response to your assertion that iOS is unconditionally easier to use than Android. I can make a list explaining how Android is more user friendly in certain areas than iOS. I can also make a case for iOS too. Both OS don't need user manuals and are equally user friendly.


Now you are putting parameters about how benchmarks can be manipulated. What can be manipulated up, can be manipulated down.

You can't prove the correlation between a lawsuit and ios update, as you can't prove what was in the works in apple software development.

Apple agreed with Geekbench so now what?

Apple has been throttling users for well over a year and its only after 30 lawsuits we get thrown a bone. Those law suits may be dismissed but something is better than nothing
 
Whenever a phone randomly shuts down,user realises a problem and its taken to the manufacturer for repair. Samsung/Android have to solve the problem for the user. They could have issued a throttle update, not caused the phone to shut down but make it extremely slow causing the user to upgrade but they didn't. That's a hard thing to do.
You're speaking for the masses? Maybe the user can't bring the phone in for various reasons and is now stuck with a phone that could be shutting off at random important intervals. It may be enough to make this persons' next phone an iphone. A better solution is to release a power management profile that will stop the phone from shutting down. Wait, apple already did that.

Ah I thought so. Small fine print. Even if Samsung had put that in the manual, no user would read it making it redundant. All that would serve is free the company of the liability of compensation but it doesn't excuse bad design.
What fine print? It was the first sentence in the manual linked to you, with a picture showing it's impossible to insert the cpu incorrectly unless one blatantly doesn't know that they are doing. You are comparing a finely designed piece of kit(cpu and assembly) with a poorly designed feature that lead to breaking phones.

There is a warning in the manual and unlike the Intel manual, its visible.
Still caused broken phones. Bad design is not cast aside for that fact it's in a user manual.

Its the same concept. Nothing stated in the manual but your laptop is destroyed if a speck of dust gets underneath the keyboard. Why hasn't Apple stated in the manual to put in a keyboard cover?
Not even in the same small county, let alone the same univers.

That was in response to your assertion that iOS is unconditionally easier to use than Android. I can make a list explaining how Android is more user friendly in certain areas than iOS. I can also make a case for iOS too. Both OS don't need user manuals and are equally user friendly.
No, my assertion is IOS is easier to use than Android. If you call that unconditional, then so be it. The control center toggle has turned out to be a very good innovation. Why allow the same action from multiple places within the UI?

Apple agreed with Geekbench so now what?

Apple has been throttling users for well over a year and its only after 30 lawsuits we get thrown a bone. Those law suits may be dismissed but something is better than nothing
Apple has agreed with the people on android where their phone shutdown prematurely, that power management is better than random shutdowns and has provided ways to monitor and control the shutdowns. The lawsuits will be dismissed, probably, because there is no legal basis for harm. Remember in the US, you can sue anybody for any reason, lawsuits don't mean a valid reason has been filed for the suit and you don't even have to pay for court costs.
 
You obviously didn't think they were pointless in your countless replies defending Android and knocking people's opinions about iOS (including mine). I mean, you did offer up at least 38 replies to this thread yourself. Hard to believe you think it's pointless if you're actively engaged in the post.



But you'll still be here, right?

But I have said very regularly that I don't think there's much to choose between the two systems. It's the stupid rabid fans on either side I can't be doing with. If people will post tripe then I feel it's my duty to demolish their rants and they make it so easy.

Believe me I do exactly the same on Android forums. It's the lack of maturity that's so annoying. I know iOS, MacOS and Android inside out, so when people make posts that lack any objectivity you have to call them out
 
The problem I have with Android is less with the software than with the hardware.
There just isn't a decent "one size fits all" out there
-Samsung has Touchwiz (or whatever they call it now)
-Samsung also has those stupid curved screens
-Most Android OEMs got rid of the headphone jack and have USB-C adapters that don't work (at least the Apple adapters work)
-good luck getting updates on Android phones that aren't Pixels
-they copied the Apple notch but left the chin
-most Android phones have numerous hardware problems (battery issues, poor screens, etc)
-and most Android phones aren't in the US, and if they are they might not be on your carrier on even on the LTE band (I've legit never seen a Huawei, Xiami, or OnePlus in real life, but they way Android fans talk about them online they should be everywhere)
 
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I could spend ages pulling apart your arguments line by line but I doubt it would make any difference. Enjoy your slippers and cocoa.

But I have said very regularly that I don't think there's much to choose between the two systems. It's the stupid rabid fans on either side I can't be doing with. If people will post tripe then I feel it's my duty to demolish their rants and they make it so easy.

Believe me I do exactly the same on Android forums. It's the lack of maturity that's so annoying. I know iOS, MacOS and Android inside out, so when people make posts that lack any objectivity you have to call them out

You commented the first quote to my first post in this thread. You then proceeded to spend days trying to do exactly what you thought wouldn't make a difference, to lots of other people's posts. You then proceed to state you can't handle "stupid rabid fans". You may not be a "stupid rabid fan", but you do seem to be pretty jacked up on trying to shoot down anything positive anybody has to say about iOS. How does that make you any different than the "stupid rabid fans" you are trying to claim you're more mature than? Confusing logic by the looks of it.
 
I prefer it because the Android apps still have the hobbyist, unpolished feel over the iOS counterparts.

Oh my gosh YES!! Every time I try to go back to Android the app experience is horrible for me. I’ve been spoiled by iOS and that is one of the reasons I won’t switch plus not having to go through hoops just to get visual voicemail to work it just WORKS!

Also the carriers can’t keep stuff from iPhones like they can with Android phones.
 
You commented the first quote to my first post in this thread. You then proceeded to spend days trying to do exactly what you thought wouldn't make a difference, to lots of other people's posts. You then proceed to state you can't handle "stupid rabid fans". You may not be a "stupid rabid fan", but you do seem to be pretty jacked up on trying to shoot down anything positive anybody has to say about iOS. How does that make you any different than the "stupid rabid fans" you are trying to claim you're more mature than? Confusing logic by the looks of it.

NO, I reply to posts where the poster has clearly got blinkers on. Some of the comments about Android are so out of date they have whiskers. I have to assume the posters have never owned an Android phone for many years, or have never owned an Android phone at all and simply regurgitate what they have been told or read.

A thread should have balance but that clearly does not appear to be possible - on either side. Instead we have posts such as 'apple is the best because I say so, Android stinks' or 'Android is the best because I say so, Apple stinks'. The level of immaturity is simply embarrassing.

I use both systems all the time and I find they both do pretty much the same things. Both are slick mature systems, but there are some differences which means the user has to go about things in a slightly different way to achieve the same goal.

That doesn't make either system bad, just different.
 
NO, I reply to posts where the poster has clearly got blinkers on. Some of the comments about Android are so out of date they have whiskers. I have to assume the posters have never owned an Android phone for many years, or have never owned an Android phone at all and simply regurgitate what they have been told or read.

A thread should have balance but that clearly does not appear to be possible - on either side. Instead we have posts such as 'apple is the best because I say so, Android stinks' or 'Android is the best because I say so, Apple stinks'. The level of immaturity is simply embarrassing.

I use both systems all the time and I find they both do pretty much the same things. Both are slick mature systems, but there are some differences which means the user has to go about things in a slightly different way to achieve the same goal.

That doesn't make either system bad, just different.
A thread should have balance and each posters view of balance is different, which is why things go around in circles.

As far as each operating system doing the same things, sure:
- check Facebook
- make phone calls
- get emails

The style is different. A 10 year old Hyundai Elantra and an s class both do the same thing. Get people to a destination. The style is different (I dont care which model you believe is iOS or android).

Cost aside people have favorites because not one size fits all. Glad you like android, it’s not my preference.
 
Glad you like android, it’s not my preference.

Slaps head, see, there you go again. I said both are systems of equal value and as such I appreciate 'both'. I'm actually pretty neutral. You did pick up I use 'both' I suppose?

I simply cannot stand the 'school playground' rhetoric of 'mine's better than yours' which is patently untrue on either side. Example, I had an iPad 2 for almost 4 years then switched to an Android tablet for a similar time. I've now switched back to an iPad - why? I got a good deal on the iPad, no other reason. I'm comfortable and feel at home with either OS and see no advantages or disadvantages to swapping and changing. Change is good!

I really don't get this 'brand loyalty' clap trap.
 
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