Yes, these features are great. But whereas I see Google as forward-thinking and innovative, none of these features really strike me the same way. I don't know, Siri and Notification Center seem like a poor attempt at Google Now, the new design screams amateur, the UI is now becoming MORE complex when it could become simpler, and I guess I'm just flummoxed by Apple now. This is not at all what I was expecting or hoping for, and in my eyes it's several steps forward, several steps backward. I get a terrible sense of déjà vu when I look at iOS 7. Apple, to me, is supposed to specialize in design and execution, and they've failed. I'm nowhere near able to switch platforms, so I don't have a choice but to wait for the GM and pray for major polishing. But I'm growing less and less optimistic about Apple's future for the time being.
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Why is Apple trying to copy Android?
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Yes, these features are great. But whereas I see Google as forward-thinking and innovative, none of these features really strike me the same way. I don't know, Siri and Notification Center seem like a poor attempt at Google Now, the new design screams amateur, the UI is now becoming MORE complex when it could become simpler, and I guess I'm just flummoxed by Apple now. This is not at all what I was expecting or hoping for, and in my eyes it's several steps forward, several steps backward. I get a terrible sense of déjà vu when I look at iOS 7. Apple, to me, is supposed to specialize in design and execution, and they've failed. I'm nowhere near able to switch platforms, so I don't have a choice but to wait for the GM and pray for major polishing. But I'm growing less and less optimistic about Apple's future for the time being.
What's Google done lately that's forward thinking? Play Games? All-Access? Adding reminders and alarms to Google Now?
And how is the UI more complex? Granted they've added some gestures, but I think thats way forward anyway. Gestures will hopefully replace buttons of any kind.....much like the iPad.
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Hm. Boy this sounds awfully familiar. Oh yes, I said the same thing about Samsung. I wonder, where this level of acceptance was for Samsung when they implemented a plethora of things you didn't find useful?
So, if the competition comes up with things that aren't immediately useful or useful to you, they're not really doing anything special. But if Apple comes up with things that you just admitted isn't useful to you, hey, you're not going to bash them for it -- why would anyone do that?!
I'm certainly not bashing Apple for it. But I don't bash Samsung either.
Ok. Sure. I don't like Samsung and it doesn't have to do with the features they implement.
And I'm not trying to deny there isn't some form of double standard. Though I think the focus here is different. Whereas when we talk about Samsung and the focus is "X number of features, wow Samsung's awesome", for me and iOS, the features really are secondary, hence why I can say "Meh these features aren't necessary but I applaud Apple for implementing them."
I also never said I didn't find them useful. Useful and necessary are not the same. I can get by and do everything I need to do in iOS 6. iOS 7 simply adds other features that add usefulness, but to me aren't exactly necessary. I feel this way because the OS, ecosystem and hardware as a package are what I'm looking at, not a laundry list of features, whereas for Samsung, its all about a long checklist of features that may or may not add to the overall experience.
Two different philosophies at work here leading to two different views. You can call it a double standard if you want, but they don't go about things the same and as such really can't be seen in a direct comparison.
I would say it looks closer to aping Touchwiz than stock. Hell if I had the S4 it would even have the transparent notification bar that the latest Touchwiz released with. Samsung must have planted spies deep within Apple HQ!
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Unnecessary clutter in the status bar? You mean like how the iPhone tells me I'm on Tmobile? As if I need to be reminded of that constantly?
Or how it tells me it's an "ipad" that I'm using when I use my iPad. Very necessary.
To you.
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Unnecessary clutter in the status bar? You mean like how the iPhone tells me I'm on Tmobile? As if I need to be reminded of that constantly?
Or how it tells me it's an "ipad" that I'm using when I use my iPad. Very necessary.
Well, surely you know why contract phones have the carrier name splashed on the status bar.
Yeah, I think that Google would not sue Apple over this even if their notification center patent gets approved today. It is really not their style.
Do you tell people to ignore (and let it be) companies that dump toxic waste because it doesnt affect them? Apple is just a pesky company that make use of the flawed patent system to stifle its competitions (thru lawsuits) while at the same time steal from others. Are you telling people to condone this kind of despicable acts just because they dont affect them directly?
When others don't freely sue Apple doesnt mean that Apple is in the right (or they dont have a case against Apple). Not many companies have the money/resources to be bogged down in legal system. They rather spend those money in something more productive like R&D. Apple spend very little on R&D and they most probably think it is cheaper and easier to steal ideas from others than to invent them. Instead Apple has its multi-billion legal teams sniffing out legal loopholes in justice/patent system to be used against the competitions.
Apple has INITIATED more legal lawsuits than any other companies in the world. So yeah, everyone should stand up and denounce such underhand tactics of Apple.
I'm pretty sure every single possible variant of locking and unlocking with a touchscreen has already been done on Android. It's one of those hot topics that people are always trying to 1-up on. Lol I'm not defending apple here, just telling it like it is.
Now then, if they keep suing other companies for copying them, they're just being moronic hypocrites.
Mine automatically disappears each time I unlock my phone. Frees up room for notification icons.
Two different philosophies because you view them as different because your double standard
Although there is truth in this, it worries me that someone spent valuable minutes of their life making this collage to prove a point on a forum.
And did Apple describe any of these features as "innovative"? I don't remember them doing that.
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Unnecessary clutter in the status bar? You mean like how the iPhone tells me I'm on Tmobile? As if I need to be reminded of that constantly?
Or how it tells me it's an "ipad" that I'm using when I use my iPad. Very necessary.
Indeed! Although I guess it's a little branding touch.
It may be region or carrier specific, I cant remember if my SGS3 showed carrier details in the notification bar. My Galaxy S4 doesn't, however if I have powered down, when restarting the phone it does show a large O2 (My carrier) page on startup, this disappears once the lock screen kicks in.
Yes, and Apple did it worse, with all this white it looks like a Kindle Paperwhite.
It may be region or carrier specific, I cant remember if my SGS3 showed carrier details in the notification bar. My Galaxy S4 doesn't, however if I have powered down, when restarting the phone it does show a large O2 (My carrier) page on startup, this disappears once the lock screen kicks in.
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My point was not so much that it's always and only on the menu bar, but that carrier agreements are the reason they get mentioned up front. (whether on the lockscreen that disappears when you swipe it away, or in the menu bar.
It's not Apple that decides you get to see T-Mobile, or whoever your carrier is, plastered on the menu bar or lock screen.
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The only point you made was that you hold a double standard. For Android, excessive information in the status bar is ugly clutter. For Apple... : throw hands in the air : hey, it's just carrier agreements (they don't make these agreements with Android, I guess).
"iPad" -- good thing that's there to remind me that I'm using an iPad.
I don't know with whom you're arguing here, but it's not me. I never said that on Android, whatever's in the menu bar is clutter. That was Drunken Master who said that menu bar clutter was far worse on Android.
I was addressing your comment that suggested that Apple alone controls the placement of "T-Mobile" on your iPhone. It's not. It's due to carrier agreements on ALL carrier phones.
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You're correct. My mistake. I mistook you for having said that because you quoted my original response to Drunken Master. Sorry.
The only thing similar is the wallpaper, I don't get your point here? Any user can choose their own wallpaper. If an Android user chooses a wallpaper similar to mine on my iPhone, I wouldn't say 'Android are copying Apple'.
I'm sure your right. Also keep in mind some Android phones have the carrier printed on the phone itself. Verizon is terrible for this.
I still think "iPad" on an iPad is pretty dumb. Gaudy Apple logo on the back is bad enough. I use cases to cover that.
There is a none jailbreak way to remove carrier logo. I couldn't get it to work though.
No worries. I think the shoe has been on the other foot in the past.
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You haven't SEEN a gaudy Apple log til you've seen the old style rainbow colored logos from right about the time Steve came back!