It's hard to tell if you're being sarcastic or not. But either way, every word of that is objectively true.
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Why is Big Sur so ugly?
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URL window at the bottom of Safari in iOS 15 is going to be a game changer!
Wait.... url.... bottom.......
WOW I may have to reconsider everything! What a stunning innovation.
And this is really included in their list of bragging highlights?
We use Big Sur and Apple hardware in a production environment where stability is crucial. No downtime due to OS updates or incompatibilities. the Macs are also, on average, twice as old as the PCs in the office. A number of them date back to 2013!
The same cannot be said for the horror show that is Windows and “enterprise grade” PCs. Bad batteries, cracked plastic top cases, Windows updates which frequently fail - these are just some of the issues we encounter.
Not sure what issues you’re having, but using non standard software using deprecated APIs hand then having issues is not Apple’s issue. Not saying that’s what you’re doing necessarily, but I’ve seen this complaint often from people using software (eg. 32 bit apps) which Apple has given ample notice of being deprecated in future releases…
"Professional OS" is rather a curious term. What items do you have issues with respect to OS upgrades? What do you consider a "professional OS?" I'm not being critical of your comment but rather, simply interested.
Since I use Linux, I am neither affected by loss of 32-bit support (would it have killed Apple to have both 32-bit and 64-bit?!) nor am I affected by updates, since I don't believe in them and Linux can be set to never bother me about them. I have control.
Now, I do take pity on the boss, who's CCTV system relies heavily on Internet Explorer (doesn't support Edge or Chrome, some plugin that doesn't support them is neccessary) and died when the last Windows Update removed IE entirely. But that's what you get for playing with Windows, and I'm sure Macs also nag you endlessly about updates. Mine certainly did.
Now, I do take pity on the boss, who's CCTV system relies heavily on Internet Explorer (doesn't support Edge or Chrome, some plugin that doesn't support them is neccessary) and died when the last Windows Update removed IE entirely. But that's what you get for playing with Windows, and I'm sure Macs also nag you endlessly about updates. Mine certainly did.
hmm.. a professional os to me is Ubuntu one that can be use for practical use in real world computations. The icons don't look like toy icons, but they look like real to life icons. I guess the fact, that Linux and BSD are open and one can use it in a professional setting. Mac OS X is more professional looking than anything after Mavericks.
I use a variety of macs for servers, such as file servers and workstations ranging from(dont laugh) G4,G5 to 2012, 2015 MacBook Pros and my 2010-2012 Mac Pro.
All the time brother ! All the time -> I'm sure Macs also nag you endlessly about updates. Mine certainly did.
Perhaps a professional OS would not have a GUI but remain with just a terminal prompt. One should be able to remain with a particular version of an OS with proper care and continue to work for months on end before considering an update. As for Linux, big fan but GNOME vs KDE and all the variants are now flavour of the month club depending on which distro you install.
I find a great deal to be less than to my liking with MacOS but it is nothing compared to the bloated Windows system and then again Linux still remains with archaic commands and switches. I'll simply say pick what works best for your needs and I do respect the comment about an OS being suspect if upgrades impact pro work.
Without getting into the definition of a "pro" OS, I will agree that Apple has drifted in a direction that seems less concerned with the excellence of their products. With each new release I see a narrowing of quality - in every way - between Mac Book Pro's and all other laptops.
It looks more like windows, updates as often as windows, has more bugs than I expect from MBP's. Apple isn't forcing updates yet, but they have made it more difficult to dismiss nagging update badges.
And it's finally getting to that breaking point for me. My next laptop will be from System76, not Apple.
It looks more like windows, updates as often as windows, has more bugs than I expect from MBP's. Apple isn't forcing updates yet, but they have made it more difficult to dismiss nagging update badges.
And it's finally getting to that breaking point for me. My next laptop will be from System76, not Apple.
It started for me once they released iOS 7 and Yosemite. I tried, I really did, try to 'just get used to it' but couldn't. I just couldn't. I can't enjoy bland UI and it isn't the Apple I was fond of when I was handed a 3GS and later got a MBP in 2012. I complained, gave feedback, even posted to the Apple discussion forum (wow what a ugly UI they got!) but was just told by Apple employees and others 'this is the new future, get used to it or get left behind'
Well, if the future is looking like Tandy DeskMate or Amiga WorkBench 1.5, it's not only NOT modern, but it's going backwards. I'll happily stick to my skeuomorphic Android 2.3 UI from now on, thank you!
I suppose they can lose a customer and they seem successful catering to the young kids today, but I see Samsung keeps killing it in sales.
I thought something was off about that number. Being an old Amiga-user myself I couldn't place that Amiga Workbench version anywhere. 1.4 maybe, but that eventually rolled out as Amiga Workbench 2.0 if I remember correctly.
Both appear to belong in the 1980s where they should be. Both harsh looking on the eyes, with garish colours, and flat UI. If anyone really believes flat UI design is 'modern' I assume either that they were too young to have gone through it the first time or they simply don't recall. I'd rather go back to the Windows 3.1 Program Manager over any of the 'modern' trash that's UI today. Thankfully in Linux and Android I can keep old apps, old UI and sideload stuff.
It's a shame Commodore is gone, their later AmigaOS was far ahead of its time:
Also, I completely missed WebOS, which also had wireless charging, gesture navigation, complete with proper skeuomorphism. in 2009:
It's a shame Commodore is gone, their later AmigaOS was far ahead of its time:
Also, I completely missed WebOS, which also had wireless charging, gesture navigation, complete with proper skeuomorphism. in 2009:
Its certainly a change but 'game changer'?. Its a minor location change, one I don't like but hope there is a choice so I can move it back to the top if I want. Now if they made it easier to go back or even had a 'home' icon that would be getting to be an improvement.
@nickdalzell1 I'm glad to have a fellow Amiga user / appreciator on MacRumors . we might not agree on the whole CSAM affair and I was probably a little too harsh in that thread. The author of FS-UAE has a new release out on
FS-UAE - builds that is more in line with current WinUAE offerings and I have "threatened" with either installing Windows 10 in a VM(again) and have WinUAE / Amiga Forever on there. Or simply see if FS-UAE will accept my old AmigaOS 3.9 install via means of the Mac.
AmigaOS 4 is something I've wanted to try since it came out, but the latest known FS-UAE didn't handle networking that well on a Mac, if at all . I have not tried with the more up-to-date FS-UAE as linked to above
AmigaOS 2.04 and later AmigaOS 3.9 had so much going for it - SASG website with MagicUserInterface(MUI) , MagicWB, MasterControlProgram(MCP), Scalos(Workbench replacement), XEN buttons, VisualPrefs for theming and Birdie too for window border decorations. Neither apps required any special Terminal or Shell commands to be allowed to inject AmigaOS. It was the best.
Also, MagicMenu, Toolmanager, a launch tool(DragThing like)with animated icons for each program should you want to in a .anim format. Nostalgia... ❤
There's a really good AmigaOS4 screenshot by Girish Nath that envisioned what that version of AmigaOS might look like because it was really far in the future and it was also an uncertain future. This theme has been attempted to be done for Windowblinds, but of course it's still Windowblinds on Windows.
Anyways, that was a thing - making mockups of AmigaOS4 that would not have the appearance that most people thought.
FS-UAE - builds that is more in line with current WinUAE offerings and I have "threatened" with either installing Windows 10 in a VM(again) and have WinUAE / Amiga Forever on there. Or simply see if FS-UAE will accept my old AmigaOS 3.9 install via means of the Mac.
AmigaOS 4 is something I've wanted to try since it came out, but the latest known FS-UAE didn't handle networking that well on a Mac, if at all . I have not tried with the more up-to-date FS-UAE as linked to above
AmigaOS 2.04 and later AmigaOS 3.9 had so much going for it - SASG website with MagicUserInterface(MUI) , MagicWB, MasterControlProgram(MCP), Scalos(Workbench replacement), XEN buttons, VisualPrefs for theming and Birdie too for window border decorations. Neither apps required any special Terminal or Shell commands to be allowed to inject AmigaOS. It was the best.
Also, MagicMenu, Toolmanager, a launch tool(DragThing like)with animated icons for each program should you want to in a .anim format. Nostalgia... ❤
There's a really good AmigaOS4 screenshot by Girish Nath that envisioned what that version of AmigaOS might look like because it was really far in the future and it was also an uncertain future. This theme has been attempted to be done for Windowblinds, but of course it's still Windowblinds on Windows.
Anyways, that was a thing - making mockups of AmigaOS4 that would not have the appearance that most people thought.
On that note, does anyone remember Silicon Graphics workstations? Those were extremely ahead of their time as well (and cost far more than any Mac) and their UI was amazing with what it could pull off. Irix coupled with EarthWatch--well, just watch the first Jurassic Park movie and you'll see bits of it.
I especially like the hacking portion with Samuel Jackson--he couldn't get root!
I especially like the hacking portion with Samuel Jackson--he couldn't get root!
Code:
>access security
access:PERMISSION DENIED
>access security grid
access:PERMISSION DENIED
>access main security grid
access:PERMISSION DENIED AND...
YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD!
YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD!
YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD!t's a shame Commodore is gone - Actually, TI99 was far better than the Commodore.. and no, Commodore lives in under Amiga which they are working with the PowerPC community by keeping their platforms alive with some OS called MorphOS.
ah the good old days !!
Also, Hello AmigaOS 4.1
Big SUr on Mac reminds me of a cross between Exchange's 2013 simple design and Windows XP over-the-top colors/kiddy merged into one.. Its still ok, but there are bugs...
Everyone posting Amiga Workbench stuff, i feel the need to get my emulator on.
I don't think Big Sur is ugly, but things such as window effects are inconsistent throughout (no Windows 10-like fadeouts when opening/closing Finder and Safari windows while some drop-down menus fade in/out). That's what I'd like to see, anyway.
Except the TI99/4-A Home Computer (my very first before the 'some assembly required HeadStart Plus XT I later got) was horrible in the graphics dept. All software ran via BASIC and had limited graphics. Although it did have a very neat voice synthesizer. Just check out this clip of Alpiner from way back then. It did trolling insults before it were a thing!
Amiga made it to 1992 before becoming irrelevant, just as AmigaOS became usable. The TI computer died in the mid-late 1980s. The TI was nothing more than a glorified Atari clone. Flat UI was its namesake, complete with flickering animation sprites.