You see, in this case the 67 Chevy came wih all that, but the auto maker didn't enable the options or lights at the dashboard.
In ase of the 1st Gen, it is MMS capable, but for some reason it was not allowed to MMS.
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Why no MMS on 1st GEN IPHONE????
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You see, in this case the 67 Chevy came wih all that, but the auto maker didn't enable the options or lights at the dashboard.
In ase of the 1st Gen, it is MMS capable, but for some reason it was not allowed to MMS.
Are you sure?
If so, then I would be perfectly fine with the first gen not having MMS
Did they switch the words for the 3g? My experience is that all text packages include text and mms service (for all phones I have had)
Apple and AT&T are companies looking to make profits. By withholding features, more people are encouraged to upgrade. It might not be fair but it's life.
The people crying and b1tching about this are just being silly.
The people crying and b1tching about this are just being silly.
And it and the 3g are video capable. Just because you don't know Apple's reasoning doesn't mean they don't have one.
Yeah it said , what was it "includes 300 text messages" right along with the cheaper data plan.
They have a reason, you don't know the reason. It's a fact. I never said it was a good reason.
That is NOT the issue I was concerned about
I don't care if apple, att, whomever witholds features as long as they dont have you PAYING for the usage of the features at the same time
Tmar, has enlightened me about the original text plan for the first gen which takes away my concerns of the first gen not havong mms
The reason they gave was the hardware doesn't support it. We all know that is BS because the 1st Gen can MMS fine (by enabling it thru jailbreak) with it's antena. So there is no hardware reason.
It's Apple.
Your confusing the reason "they" gave you with the real reason, you know the one you don't know..
So why not say it instead of making up a fake excuse that no one will buy. At least tell us something more convincing.
Perhaps because they don't feel the need to? Maybe it a stupid reason? They never advertised it as being MMS capable so they never have to add it if they don't want to. And it seems at this time they don't want to.
I found this a while back, i havent read it because its like 50 pages, and i dont have the time. but it looks like they got mms working on a 2G.
Might involve a JB though. i wouldnt mind getting MMS working on my girlfriends 2G. she's so stubborn, i offered to buy her a 3GS a million times.
http://modmyi.com/forums/file-mods/641191-mms-iphone-2g-os-3-0-a-65.html
Might involve a JB though. i wouldnt mind getting MMS working on my girlfriends 2G. she's so stubborn, i offered to buy her a 3GS a million times.
http://modmyi.com/forums/file-mods/641191-mms-iphone-2g-os-3-0-a-65.html
The main reason is money, of course, but I'm sure Apple would spout something about the MMS experience on an EDGE phone being poor.
Tell me, was ABS, a CD changer, Bluetooth stereos and hybrid engines all standard features in their competitors' cars for years before 1967? Because I could do MMS on just about every phone I've had for at least 8 years. MMS is something Apple could have quite easily done in the original iPhone (like lots of other features it still lacks), but they choose this half-assed method (for what is a "premium" phone).
I doubt it is new for AT&T, either.
Agree %100.
My $600 original 8GB iPhone currently used by my wife who cares less about added features as long as simple text & email are working. I think Apple or ATT should offer the MMS to include the shrinking, small group of first generation users and end this fruitless situation. Having said that, we intend to keep and use ours until the last day (especially considering it's great battery life), MMS or not.
yeah
and they won't let 1G 2g & 3g a battery % either corporate bastards! seriously you bought the thing with no MMS they never said it would have it. Business's do this all the time to create the desire to upgrade. my 2004 Ford doesn't have Sync, Maybe Ford wants me to buy a new Car!
and I knew these Damn MMS threads would be worse then ever!
and they won't let 1G 2g & 3g a battery % either corporate bastards! seriously you bought the thing with no MMS they never said it would have it. Business's do this all the time to create the desire to upgrade. my 2004 Ford doesn't have Sync, Maybe Ford wants me to buy a new Car!
and I knew these Damn MMS threads would be worse then ever! 
The original iPhone is close to identical to the iPhone 3G. Also, you can send MMS on an iPhone 3G while being on the EDGE network, so I don't see a valid reason why the original iPhone is left out.
Perhaps they're trying to phase out the original iPhone. That's the only possible reason I can think of.
Perhaps they're trying to phase out the original iPhone. That's the only possible reason I can think of.
I see one valid reason. The original 2G iPhone had a reduced unlimited rate that, I think, also included some SMS's. The $20 data/message plan's equivalent on the 3G is $35. I've read reports (speculation?) that the contract between Apple and ATT disallowed MMS on this phone plan.
So, I suppose, they could enable it for a higher cost. But then someone would have to have a block for the $20 plan.
That's what I was looking for, thank you.
I've found that, when all else fails or you can't find the actual law in question, blame it on the DMCA.
It usually works, too. This time, your plan was just foiled by someone who knew more than you! Yikes...
That makes sense. The $20 data plan plus 200 free texts are probably why they don't want those cheap skates using the original iPhone to get the luxury of sending MMS just like the people paying $35 for the same exact feature.
Not really.
the 2G iPhone was not classified as a smart phone so unlimit data for that phone prices as other dumb phones.
The price for unlimited data on dumb phones works out to be $15. 200 text messages are $5 a month.
15+5= 20
Do you realize you are comparing thousands of dollars of mechanical upgrades on a 42 year old car with someone typing "true" instead of "false" into an XML file for a 1-2 year old phone? Why is it so hard to understand the difference between the two? The iPhone has been touted as the future of the mobile phone since the day it was announced. Some of us who paid up to $600 for our phones up front are feeling a little bit cheated that Apple is artificially limiting us from MMS, a feature that should have been on such a high end phone to begin with.
Are you even aware that first gen iPhone owners no longer even get the viewmymessage.com links? That's Right! We have gone from terrible workaround to no MMS functionality at all, not even an indication that we received some sort of message that we cannot view. All of this on what was 16 months ago was supposedly the worlds most advanced phone! Imagine if a little over a year after that 67 Chevy was built GM representatives stopped buy and removed the stock radio and left nothing in it's place. Would that be worth "whining" about?
Before someone says it again, we first gen iPhone owners are well aware that we were never promised MMS. That doesn't make it OK for Apple to so obviously lie to us and deliberately limit the feature set on our phones. I personally find it pathetic that my $399 iPhone cannot even receive MMS messages from my friends $99 PRE. I wonder if Apple even cares that my PRE owning friends think that the iPhone is such a piece of junk they laugh at it.
Apple, if you are reading this, you don't need to worry about RIM or Palm stealing your customers. At some point they will simply run from the stench of your B.S.
Here are two interesting statements that sound like they contradict each other. But they don't.
#1. There IS a hardware reason why the original iPhone 2G does not have MMS.
#2. There ISN'T a hardware reason why the original iPhone 2G cannot have MMS.
"DOES NOT" and "CANNOT". It's the difference between something being "impractical" and something being "impossible". Apple has deemed it "impractical" to retrofit newer features in older devices for THREE very compelling reasons:
#1. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED - As a past customer, you've already gotten the value you paid for. Every new feature is simply gratis.
#2. IF IT AIN'T BROKE - If Apple adds a software "fix" simply to give old customers with inferior hardware a functionally poorer experience of the same feature their NEW phone customers get, is it worth the headache? Of course not. More customers would complain than would voice any appreciation. The argument would be that Apple is intentionally making the experience SUCK on the older devices. MMS and Video features would perform very poorly on a 2G iPhone compared to the 3G and 3Gs.
#3. HARDWARE - The hardware in newer devices solves problems that the older hardware simply does not address. While the previous radio is capable of communicating with MMS servers, its clear that the fact that EDGE and Voice cannot happen simultaneously (as MMS messages send in the background) is a serious problem. On 3G phones, it is not addressed at all, but on 2G phones, it would be smarter not to allow users to leave the screen until the message has finished sending. While the same could be said of Email message attachments, creating yet another scenario where 2G users are unaware that they can't receive phone calls seems to flirt with more frequent tech support calls. For those who might further torture the process by sending email attachments and MMS pictures at the same time, sounds like a far more rigous testing regimen than Apple should be wasting on 2-year old hardware.
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Just get a new phone people.
~ CB
#1. There IS a hardware reason why the original iPhone 2G does not have MMS.
#2. There ISN'T a hardware reason why the original iPhone 2G cannot have MMS.
"DOES NOT" and "CANNOT". It's the difference between something being "impractical" and something being "impossible". Apple has deemed it "impractical" to retrofit newer features in older devices for THREE very compelling reasons:
#1. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED - As a past customer, you've already gotten the value you paid for. Every new feature is simply gratis.
#2. IF IT AIN'T BROKE - If Apple adds a software "fix" simply to give old customers with inferior hardware a functionally poorer experience of the same feature their NEW phone customers get, is it worth the headache? Of course not. More customers would complain than would voice any appreciation. The argument would be that Apple is intentionally making the experience SUCK on the older devices. MMS and Video features would perform very poorly on a 2G iPhone compared to the 3G and 3Gs.
#3. HARDWARE - The hardware in newer devices solves problems that the older hardware simply does not address. While the previous radio is capable of communicating with MMS servers, its clear that the fact that EDGE and Voice cannot happen simultaneously (as MMS messages send in the background) is a serious problem. On 3G phones, it is not addressed at all, but on 2G phones, it would be smarter not to allow users to leave the screen until the message has finished sending. While the same could be said of Email message attachments, creating yet another scenario where 2G users are unaware that they can't receive phone calls seems to flirt with more frequent tech support calls. For those who might further torture the process by sending email attachments and MMS pictures at the same time, sounds like a far more rigous testing regimen than Apple should be wasting on 2-year old hardware.
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Just get a new phone people.
~ CB