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Right or wrong did it ever dawn on you that it is an over-reaction to the haters on here? Positivity is always best, but when some people constantly go low (you would think they were on androidforums), some don’t react by going high as they should, but meet dumb with dumber in a downwardly spiraling game of limbo
 
Try visiting a <car brand> forum and talk about your <different car brand>. Same thing.

Like the others mentioned about Pro models, even visiting your car brand forum and not owning the highest trim level will give you a similar experience.
The same thing goes with the Android forums. I was a mod on an Android forum for a few months several years ago and the hate for everything Apple was just as bad.
 
I truly do not understand the overtly classist and over the top comments on this site when the discussion is about the iPhone and Android phones. Some background about me so you can better understand why I have this question.

I have been using Apple products since around 1992. Up until 4 years ago, my wife and I had 2 MacPros, MacBook Pro, iPad, iPhone 5 and 6. I have owned every iPhone through 6 giving my wife my old one when I updated.

About 4 years ago I personally got fed up with the iPhone for many reasons. It is still a great phone, but I had other needs. I decided to give Android a try and purchased a used Samsung S7edge. I liked it, so, after about a year, I bought a new Note 8 which I am using to this day. My wife uses an iPhone 7 (we’ll be updating her soon).

Whenever a discussion about phones comes up, many of the responses are, stupid/cheap/poor/gullible/ any other pejorative, is used to describe anyone who uses an Android phone. I don’t get it. It’s a PHONE. Do people really get there self worth based on the phone they use. And then, to make it into a class issue, “you must be poor” thing really baffles me. I understand this is an Apple site, but the attitude is embarrassing to me as an Apple product user. I have been on this site for over 20 years and have watched the users get more and more like this. Does it really affect you what phone someone else uses?

The Note 8 I have has been fantastic. No slow down, and it works as well now as it did nearly 4 years ago when I bought it. I get monthly security updates (although it’s more like every other month).
It’s really not an iPhone “issue”, it’s a symptom of how increasingly consumerist we all think and teach each other to think: We create our identities around the products and services we buy, and underline how we like to see ourselves through purchases.

We literally have songs on the radio that list brand names in positive and negative connotations, that both directly and indirectly dictate how we view our own and the belongings of others, or how you shouldn’t date someone who drives an old, beat up car, even though that actually could indicate that said individual is more financially responsible than someone who buys a brand new one every couple of years.

The iPhone and Apple products in general are some of the best examples of this, and I feel Apple has been cultivating this idea of the Apple user being a specific person of a certain intellect and sense of style and taste.

Take a look at the old “I’m a Mac, and I’m a PC” ads featuring Justin Long: People might look at them and say it’s just good fun. But I think it’s quite clear that Long’s character was much more about establishing Apple as educated, sensible and stylish and showing that other brands are for overweight, clumsy fools who are stuck in the past.

I also think the “flame wars” that consumers keep fighting and how Android users have eagerly fought to “debunk” all Apple products as over-priced and under-performing has actually made Apple users grow even more defensive and prideful about their purchases as to not entertain the notion that they are shallow and care more about design and pretty UIs than actually having products that can handle demanding tasks.

In the end it’s really all quite arbitrary and the only ones who win anything from these brand loyalty wars are the brands themselves, not us.
*Anyone replying to OP or this comment with an explanation of how their brand is in fact better than the other brand is just proving my point.
 
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I truly do not understand the overtly classist and over the top comments on this site when the discussion is about the iPhone and Android phones. Some background about me so you can better understand why I have this question.

I have been using Apple products since around 1992. Up until 4 years ago, my wife and I had 2 MacPros, MacBook Pro, iPad, iPhone 5 and 6. I have owned every iPhone through 6 giving my wife my old one when I updated.

About 4 years ago I personally got fed up with the iPhone for many reasons. It is still a great phone, but I had other needs. I decided to give Android a try and purchased a used Samsung S7edge. I liked it, so, after about a year, I bought a new Note 8 which I am using to this day. My wife uses an iPhone 7 (we’ll be updating her soon).

Whenever a discussion about phones comes up, many of the responses are, stupid/cheap/poor/gullible/ any other pejorative, is used to describe anyone who uses an Android phone. I don’t get it. It’s a PHONE. Do people really get there self worth based on the phone they use. And then, to make it into a class issue, “you must be poor” thing really baffles me. I understand this is an Apple site, but the attitude is embarrassing to me as an Apple product user. I have been on this site for over 20 years and have watched the users get more and more like this. Does it really affect you what phone someone else uses?

The Note 8 I have has been fantastic. No slow down, and it works as well now as it did nearly 4 years ago when I bought it. I get monthly security updates (although it’s more like every other month).
A lot of it - in my opinion - stems from the old mentality that iPhones were only for “rich people”. There’s been a stigma about it for years. Things have changed since then, but the attitude never left. For context, I see maybe 1 android phone to about 3 iPhones (maybe more) where I live, and I’ve literally watched iPhone users smirk at android phones.
 
We have definitely had different experience with the Note 8. The only problem the you list that I have had is typing mistakes. But, that could be my clumsy thumbs because I had similar problems with my iPhone 6, just not as bad. My battery life is still good. I just have to be careful with battery draining apps like my golf GPS. If I leave that running in the background after a round of golf it will kill the battery.
Definitely different then. Maybe it's also because the scarcity of signal tower of my operator in the area I previously lived. 3300mAh just won't cut it if the phone's constantly trying to maintain a good LTE reception.
 
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That’s a plain example of the insulting nature. Everyone who has internet access is a human who deserves it in their opinion (in the same way that you would suggest that you deserve it). Why is it that “idiots” exist and you don’t see yourself as one ? Can we be civil and not jump straight to insulting accusations of “others”. Why is it the default for some ? It doesn’t have to be.
You need to learn how to recognize sarcasm without the added /s at the end of the post. And still I believe some people deserve to get their internet connection blocked.
 
These people are professionals, but are not nerds like us here. To them, the idea of setting up a new phone is very troublesome, and they don't want to deal with it unless they really have to, thus iPhone offers an excellent value proposition for them compared to buying Android more often. For us who likes tinkering on gadgets, setting up a new phone might be a fun thing to do. For these people, that's a waste of time, time where they can make money doing something else.
Setting up a new non-iPhone, or any phone, from scratch is one of the most annoying mobile tech-things to do. Hence I’m very happy with the super-easy transfer of *all* data from one iPhone to another. It works flawlessly.
 
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I understand the phenomenon, but I don't get why it's become so pervasive in America. Not just with Apple but other things. Whether it's branding or personal views on things like politics, values, etc. Tribalism of ideas and materialism has become way more prevalent. PC vs Apple, Android vs Iphone. I never got into that nonsense. I use whatever works best for me. Right now that happens to be iPhone for my mobile needs. And PC for my computer needs. Even though I own a Intel(R) Mac Mini.

Although I've never run into anyone so flippant about the class thing. There are high end Android devices so the whole class warfare perception seems really stupid. But Android manufacturers of whatever device mostly don't cater to affluent luxury minded customers as Apple seems to do. And you do see that in the materials used and fit and finish. So There is some justification to that idea of upper materialism.
 
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It’s really not an iPhone “issue”, it’s a symptom of how increasingly consumerist we all think and teach each other to think: We create our identities around the products and services we buy, and underline how we like to see ourselves through purchases.

We literally have songs on the radio that list brand names in positive and negative connotations, that both directly and indirectly dictate how we view our own and the belongings of others, or how you shouldn’t date someone who drives an old, beat up car, even though that actually could indicate that said individual is more financially responsible than someone who buys a brand new one every couple of years.

The iPhone and Apple products in general are some of the best examples of this, and I feel Apple has been cultivating this idea of the Apple user being a specific person of a certain intellect and sense of style and taste.

Take a look at the old “I’m a Mac, and I’m a PC” ads featuring Justin Long: People might look at them and say it’s just good fun. But I think it’s quite clear that Long’s character was much more about establishing Apple as educated, sensible and stylish and showing that other brands are for overweight, clumsy fools who are stuck in the past.

I also think the “flame wars” that consumers keep fighting and how Android users have eagerly fought to “debunk” all Apple products as over-priced and under-performing has actually made Apple users grow even more defensive and prideful about their purchases as to not entertain the notion that they are shallow and care more about design and pretty UIs than actually having products that can handle demanding tasks.

In the end it’s really all quite arbitrary and the only ones who win anything from these brand loyalty wars are the brands themselves, not us.
*Anyone replying to OP or this comment with an explanation of how their brand is in fact better than the other brand is just proving my point.
To further your point…T-Mobile fanboys (of which I am not one, despite T-Mob being my carrier) and Marcelo Claure (formerly Sprint CEO) referring to T-Mobile customers as 'ghetto'.
 
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Because iPhone is the best. There’s a reason everything under the sun gets compared to the iPhone immediately upon release.

There’s truth in that usually the benchmark is the top dog.
 
Apple needs no protection from fanboys fangirls. They are doing business, performing countless transactions, and any customer is a little more than a data entry in their database and that’s it. Nobody gains any benefit from defending Apple. There’s no loyalty rewards. There’s no VIP customers reward for the best defender or something like that. I just don’t get it.
Errr, some people are Apple shareholders. Some people are also paid to defend Apple(shills).
 
Because iPhone is the best. There’s a reason everything under the sun gets compared to the iPhone immediately upon release.

There’s truth in that usually the benchmark is the top dog.
WRONG. It's competition to others, has ZERO to do with being the best.
 
this thread reads like the reviews of Final Cut Pro on the App Store. the many folks there that dislike fcp are always quick to push adobe premier pro as the superior alternative. yet they feel it necessary to impose their view as gospel.
I use an iPhone XR which MR or 9to5 mentioned in an article recently having just 5% of the market along with the 12 mini. and I just missed out jumping to that one for $480 recently. pass on team/together indoctrination and go solo. the older models work better anyway imho.
 
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I truly do not understand the overtly classist and over the top comments on this site when the discussion is about the iPhone and Android phones. Some background about me so you can better understand why I have this question.

I have been using Apple products since around 1992. Up until 4 years ago, my wife and I had 2 MacPros, MacBook Pro, iPad, iPhone 5 and 6. I have owned every iPhone through 6 giving my wife my old one when I updated.

About 4 years ago I personally got fed up with the iPhone for many reasons. It is still a great phone, but I had other needs. I decided to give Android a try and purchased a used Samsung S7edge. I liked it, so, after about a year, I bought a new Note 8 which I am using to this day. My wife uses an iPhone 7 (we’ll be updating her soon).

Whenever a discussion about phones comes up, many of the responses are, stupid/cheap/poor/gullible/ any other pejorative, is used to describe anyone who uses an Android phone. I don’t get it. It’s a PHONE. Do people really get there self worth based on the phone they use. And then, to make it into a class issue, “you must be poor” thing really baffles me. I understand this is an Apple site, but the attitude is embarrassing to me as an Apple product user. I have been on this site for over 20 years and have watched the users get more and more like this. Does it really affect you what phone someone else uses?

The Note 8 I have has been fantastic. No slow down, and it works as well now as it did nearly 4 years ago when I bought it. I get monthly security updates (although it’s more like every other month).
Totally agree. I'm guessing here, this is mostly because Apple still does absolutely trounce Android in one key respect - marketing and advertising. Apple clearly has an uber loyal fan base that pays where as some android users chose it because they don't like Apple.
 
We’ve had a combo of iPhone and androids, not much of a difference other than build quality really, we have had issues with all of our notes sadly…. Which led us going solely back to apple… which is a little more bording at times LOL
 
I love iPhones but my favorite if I could have any phone is a Pixel running Graphene OS. I have taken some heat here in the past for saying that and pointing out they are more secure in certain situations.
 
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