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sunking101

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This thread is iPhone vs samsung galaxy s5 though. And samsung puts their touch wiz over android so it is it's own entity. I would think android users upgrade just as much if not more than iPhone users. There's more options for them, and iPhones IMO get support longer than their android counterparts. Isn't the galaxy s5 the same price as an iPhone? So where does price savvy come in?

There's competition within android but IMO the s5 isn't trailing the iPhone cuz of the m8 or other android handsets. There's always been competition within android. The 5s is outselling cuz people want it more.

Price savvy in that an S4 owner would not see the S5 as being that much better to necessitate making a purchase. Lots of Apple heads will sell their i5 and purchase a 5S despite it not being night and day better. I don't know, but I can't see that iOS has suddenly become more popular to Android owners. If people are unhappy with a plastic Galaxy offering, then premium build Android handsets are available. They don't need to jump ship. The S5, camera aside, isn't a huge leap over the S4. Their Touch ID is pretty crap and the heartrate monitor is garbage. I expect that people are waiting for the S6, or the Note 4.
 

cuzo

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Sep 23, 2012
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I'm not interested in being a spec monger in the electronics gadget race.

IOS works better and easier for me and Apple support is second to none. With mostly iphones and ipads in the family and extended family IOS just seems to integrate very nicely.

same

I'm older, don't care about all that stuff and only use my phone to call, text or talk. I see no need for all the stuff android can do.

I have a s4 that I'm tired of rebooting and having freeze ups.

Honestly, I don't even want to customize.
 

dojoman

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Touch ID experience is a thousand times better than Samsung's. This thread shouldn't even exist. S5 is garbage in every way.
 

bigjnyc

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The Galaxy is an amazing phone, probably even better than the iPhone...But its Android I can't stand. its so messy, after playing with it for a while I hated it and ran back to the neat, organized, beautiful iOS.... This is just my personal opinion of course. I am far from an apple fanboy and acknowledge that there are some amazing phones out there like HTC one, LG G3 but its just the software they run that I can't deal with.
 

Gathomblipoob

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The Galaxy is an amazing phone, probably even better than the iPhone...But its Android I can't stand. its so messy, after playing with it for a while I hated it and ran back to the neat, organized, beautiful iOS.... This is just my personal opinion of course. I am far from an apple fanboy and acknowledge that there are some amazing phones out there like HTC one, LG G3 but its just the software they run that I can't deal with.

That's how I felt about the HTC One. It was a beautiful phone with a beautiful screen and great build quality. However, the Android experience and the general app quality left me wanting.
 

Truefan31

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Price savvy in that an S4 owner would not see the S5 as being that much better to necessitate making a purchase. Lots of Apple heads will sell their i5 and purchase a 5S despite it not being night and day better. I don't know, but I can't see that iOS has suddenly become more popular to Android owners. If people are unhappy with a plastic Galaxy offering, then premium build Android handsets are available. They don't need to jump ship. The S5, camera aside, isn't a huge leap over the S4. Their Touch ID is pretty crap and the heartrate monitor is garbage. I expect that people are waiting for the S6, or the Note 4.


I think if the iPhone 6 has a 4.7 and/or 5.5 screen with iOS 8 and iCloud drive you'll see plenty of android owners switch. Every iPhone has outsold the previous and I'm sure that trend will continue
 

VulchR

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The S5 has a nice screen, but I do not like Samsung's ethics as a company. Also, I prefer not to be in the Google ecosystem - I want to be the customer rather than some anonymous marketing departments that are trying to target me with ads. Besides, I like the Apple ecosystem just fine - it really helps my work and I enjoy using it at home.
 

960design

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With the recent sales results that shows the iPhone 5s is still outselling the newer Galaxy S5, I'm curious as to why you either picked or would pick the iPhone over the GS5. Spec for spec and feature for feature the GS5 is heads and tales above the iPhone in just about every category (1080P - 5.1" screen, 16MP camera, Killer battery life, expandable memory, etc.) and yet it's not outselling the iPhone... what does the iPhone still do better than The Galaxy S5 and Android KitKat 4.4.2?

Don't give me the tired old "android is a mess" argument, we aren't dealing with ginger bread or jelly bean here anymore. KitKat does almost everything well.
A racing lawn mower beats my car's specs in just about everything as well. I prefer my car as a daily driver.
 

winston1236

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Dec 13, 2010
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I think if the iPhone 6 has a 4.7 and/or 5.5 screen with iOS 8 and iCloud drive you'll see plenty of android owners switch. Every iPhone has outsold the previous and I'm sure that trend will continue

Except that Google has KitKat and Drive so they probably won't because there isnt anything to gain. I can't speak for Touchwiz but the pure KitKat I have on my Nexus 7 is beautiful.

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For me, it's hardware

I can't stand the cheap plastic/rubber of Samsung phones. The Note 3 is okay... but when you hold an iPhone or even the HTC One, you realize you're holding a quality product.

That and the ecosystem for Apple is nice if you're a mac user, ipad, apple tv, all your friends have iphones, etc...

Yea its a shame HTC is circling the toilet right now even after coming out with a great phone.
 

sunking101

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Except that Google has KitKat and Drive so they probably won't because there isnt anything to gain. I can't speak for Touchwiz but the pure KitKat I have on my Nexus 7 is beautiful.

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Yea its a shame HTC is circling the toilet right now even after coming out with a great phone.

If it had a reasonable camera then HTC would have sold more of the M7 and M8. It's a shame they crippled sales with that 4MP shooter. A fabulous phone otherwise.
 

Truefan31

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Why would you pick iPhone over the Galaxy S5?

Except that Google has KitKat and Drive so they probably won't because there isnt anything to gain. I can't speak for Touchwiz but the pure KitKat I have on my Nexus 7 is beautiful.

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Yea its a shame HTC is circling the toilet right now even after coming out with a great phone.


With iOS 8 and iCloud drive you will see people leave android for iOS. Especially if the 6 has a bigger screen. Just because android has google drive doesn't mean they won't leave. They can have google drive and be on iCloud drive too. And IMO the user experience with a bigger screen will draw people to the iPhone. And it will sell more than any previous iPhone like it always has.
 
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inkligings

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Jul 22, 2014
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Same reason why you should pick an iphone over any ot phone

iPhone 6 – perfection in production

Posted on July 21, 2014


It’s that time of the year again, with the rumour mill teasing us with iPhone 6 leaks there are several key changes to be made with Apples latest instalment in the iPhone franchise, notably; a larger screen, an iOS upgrade and opening up to third party apps. On the surface of it, these may look like the typical incremental changes that we’ve all been accustomed to from Apple, and in essence, they are, however the impact these changes will have will be astronomical in making the iPhone 6 the best phone out. The brief summary below outlines only two key avenues that need to be addressed when comparing the iPhone to phones on other platforms.

As is the case with Apple, we can simply overlook the numbers and the nitpicking when it comes to comparing specs in the race to determine the best smartphone. What that means is Apple has made the ‘GHz’ and ‘mgp’ suffixes redundant. Instead, the words ‘user experience’, and ‘maturity’ should be the sole determining factors when choosing your next phone, and here’s why….

USER EXPERIENCE

Every phone user requires that their phone perform any task, open multiple applications and transit seamlessly between them, work fast and maintain high performance over a course of time, run increasingly powerful games and applications, and make full use of its hardware capabilities. An iPhone does all these better than any other phone, and then some.

What Apple was once ridiculed for has now become its saving grace, while android based phones are churned out at rapid rates with an increasingly impressive spec sheet, Apple continue to make incremental tweaks to its mature OS. Android based phones put emphasis on hardware and performance and in turn end up neglecting the overall user experience by not focusing on making the hardware specifically for its OS, an example of this is the high level of fragmentation on Android devices, where most of the phones do not run the latest Android OS and some devices do not have the capabilities of running the particular OS, also, rolling out the latest upgrade can take so long that by the time the latest Android update reaches the older devices there is another update ready to be rolled out.

As a consequence, simply ramping up the processor speed and memory instead of allowing it to organically develop alongside its OS can end up having an adverse affect on the performance of the phone. This is where specific needs of the device have been overlooked and instead the specs have been beefed up without taking into account how best to utilise these extra ‘Hertz’. The strategy at Apple is different, in the release of the 5S the chip was improved, introducing the A7 64 bit chipset, with increased registers, allowed for processing more bits during each clock cycle, thereby making it more efficient and more powerful while maintaining a slower clock speed, which is why the iPhone is so fast because its processor speed (which is lower than other flagships) is optimised with its chip. With Apple having future proofed its phones, the full extent of the iPhones ability to harmonise the architecture of its chips with its overall hardware and OS will only be fully appreciated when more power hungry functions will need to be performed, and this is where other devices will struggle. So, you can expect Apples next release to be the fastest phone on the market despite seemingly having a lower clock speed than, say, a rival 2.6Ghz quad core for example. As we all know the Apple model so well, we can expect the iPhone 6 to outperform its rivals in all departments and provide an enhanced user experience with its speed in execution of tasks, integration with other technology, and overall set of features.



MATURITY

Over time we have come to realise that much like a fine wine, the iPhone gets better as it matures. To begin with, the first iPhone was painfully difficult to use, didn’t perform many tasks and was somewhat limited in general. However, Apple has gradually improved its OS alongside the slight enhancements in its hardware, without drastically changing either one; this has allowed the development of the phone reach a level where everything seems to work just perfectly due to the harmonisation of the ecosystem. This is what has made the iPhone the frontrunner in an arena of giants, in regards to what the phone is capable of doing and how well it does it.

Owing to its mature OS, the iPhone continues to receive popular support from the biggest developers, this is why the best and most feature packed apps not only come to Apple, but they work so much better and offer more on iOS than on the other platforms. As already stated, the apps will only get more impressive as developers begin to make full use of the power of the iPhone, especially since Apple will be giving developers access to core iPhone features in the next upgrade.

The importance of a mature OS can be seen by studying other models with great potential that have truly stagnated. Using examples of the Windows Phone and Blackberry it is evident that without continuous development, a working and efficient OS with longevity, and support from the developer community the phone ends up failing on multiple fronts. Blackberry was shunned by some major players including Facebook and Instagram, and its once famed BBM feature was woeful and then overtaken by its understudy; Whatsapp. This is by no means an attack on Blackberry, the Blackberry 10 OS was incredibly innovative and smooth to use and the Z10 phone itself was a solid performer with some neat features, what this shows rather is the oft overlooked importance of a mature OS and highlights how heavyweights and market leaders like Microsoft and RIM were unable to catch up to both iOS and Android simply because iOS and Android were trusted platforms that had been doing their stuff over a longer period of time. With that being said, iOS is not only the most mature platform but it is constantly and consistently maturing, so with the next iPhone release imminent you can expect to not only see apps specifically for the iPhone or with iPhone specific features but also greater integration amongst other electrical and lifestyle devices, resulting in a major expansion of the ecosystem with the trademark seamless interactions.

To conclude, these two determining factors of ‘user experience’ and ‘maturity’ encompass all the different features and qualities overall within a phone, as they are a result of how the hardware and software work and are built in conjunction with one another to complement each other, producing an optimum final result. For this reason the iPhone lacks in no department and functions flawlessly. With some added improvements such as a larger screen and ability for more customisations the iPhone 6 is set to become the most complete phone ever made.

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sunking101

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Just because we're heavily entrenched in a particular ecosystem (and extremely familiar with it), it doesn't make the competition inferior.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
I am yes, but you're not. You keep highlighting things that you know I agree with, why?

We reach different personal conclusions on our own opinions based on the information available and our personal experience. This thread is entirely subjective there is no right answer. It's like asking which is better: vanilla or chocolate?
 

sunking101

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Sep 19, 2013
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We reach different personal conclusions on our own opinions based on the information available and our personal experience. This thread is entirely subjective there is no right answer. It's like asking which is better: vanilla or chocolate?

Chocolate. Definitely.
;-)
 

Winona Northdakota

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Dec 27, 2010
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Speaking camera, software is where I feel this is where the iPhone is lacking. There are just no settings for things like WB, ISO, etc. Where the S5 does better there is no adjustments to have the 5S compensate.

This leads me to the reviews of the S5 vs the 5S. They are all set to automatic modes on the S5. So the reviews give the S5 a handicap. So may say that's more of a fair comparison but I don't feel that way. Show what each is possible.

Before anyone says the iPhone doesn't need those settings keep in mind iOS 8 will introduce them. So Apple feels it does.


Those settings are available on iOS with 3rd party apps, right now. Not lacking at all.
 
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