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i wasn't referring to your smooth as butter post, hadn't even seen it.

3.0 instantly made flicking pages and opening mail and messages slower and more jerky. 3.0.1 instantly undid that effect. that's how it worked for me and others are saying the same thing in that thread.

So, are you saying I should restore my 3G as new? I had been thinking of doing that anyway, when we go to 3.1, but that was due to getting better battery life. However, I've been told that restoring as new only helps with the 3GS battery life. So, I'd be willing to do it for other reasons (i.e., making my 3G run better), if anyone here can convince me it's worth it. With me, restoring from a backup, 3.0.1 is the same as 3.0.
 
So, are you saying I should restore my 3G as new? I had been thinking of doing that anyway, when we go to 3.1, but that was due to getting better battery life. However, I've been told that restoring as new only helps with the 3GS battery life. So, I'd be willing to do it for other reasons (i.e., making my 3G run better), if anyone here can convince me it's worth it. With me, restoring from a backup, 3.0.1 is the same as 3.0.

After upgrading my 3G to 3.0, it was almost unbearably slow. Keyboard would stick, apps would randomly close, app startup time was around 10 to 15 seconds. I wiped it with a clean firmware and set it up as a new phone. Now it feels as snappy as the 3GS phones I've used. Try it out. Just do a backup and then locate the backup and zip it up so that you can restore in the future if you decide it wasn't worth it. One problem with doing that is you'll lose all your app settings if they don't offer some sort of backup with a third party server. Luckily all my important apps offer this (Evernote, WineSnob, Gas Cubby). Unfortunately, I have lost my Myst and Sims saved games. I really wish you could back up and restore specific app settings, but that is another story for another thread.
 
So, are you saying I should restore my 3G as new? I had been thinking of doing that anyway, when we go to 3.1, but that was due to getting better battery life. However, I've been told that restoring as new only helps with the 3GS battery life. So, I'd be willing to do it for other reasons (i.e., making my 3G run better), if anyone here can convince me it's worth it. With me, restoring from a backup, 3.0.1 is the same as 3.0.

After upgrading my 3G to 3.0, it was almost unbearably slow. Keyboard would stick, apps would randomly close, app startup time was around 10 to 15 seconds. I wiped it with a clean firmware and set it up as a new phone. Now it feels as snappy as the 3GS phones I've used. Try it out. Just do a backup and then locate the backup and zip it up so that you can restore in the future if you decide it wasn't worth it. One problem with doing that is you'll lose all your app settings if they don't offer some sort of backup with a third party server. Luckily all my important apps offer this (Evernote, WineSnob, Gas Cubby). Unfortunately, I have lost my Myst and Sims saved games. I really wish you could back up and restore specific app settings, but that is another story for another thread.

You could restore your backup data to get all of your 3rd party data and settings. Once that's all done, go into Settings>General>Reset>Reset All Settings. This will clear all system settings but leave application data and settings in place. This is a pretty safe method and it does the same thing as setting up new.

It does indeed work. It doesn't reset third party apps, but it puts all the system stuff back to defaults (home screen arrangement, settings, network settings). It still keeps all of your data, including text conversations, notes, bookmarks, camera roll, music, videos, podcasts... etc.

If you have any questions about this method, go ahead and ask.

Edit: I don't think this method keeps bookmarks, but I used iPhone Backup Extractor to extract my bookmarks from an iPhone backup. Then I copied the Bookmarks.plist file to Users/spaz/Library/Safari/ on my computer and sync'd the bookmarks from iTunes. Then I put my old desktop Safari bookmarks back and deleted the MobileSafari bookmarks file and turned OFF bookmarks syncing in iTunes. That way it only syncs the MobileSafari bookmarks once, then it won't sync my desktop Safari bookmarks after that.
 
I've got it!!! I've made an animation to show you the lag I'm experiencing that nobody else seems to be experiencing. Maybe if I show you EXACTLY what I'm seeing, you'll see it too. Here's the exact lag I'm looking at when I launch *certain* applications such as: Voice Memos, Notes, Mail, Twitterrific, Sketches and Movies. Look at the 2 animations below.

Here's what I expect to see (this is how it is on the iPhone 3GS)
Notice how the icons fly away as the Voice Memos app launches.
Please note: I slowed it down so you can see it easier (for the naysayers)
HomeScreenAni.gif


Here's what I'm ACTUALLY seeing on my iPhone 3G:
HomeScreenAni2.gif


Notice how in the second animation, the icons don't fly away, they just disappear and the Voice Memos screen starts zooming.
*Sometimes I see just a sliver of the last part of the icons just before the app opens*
*The worst apps are Mail, Twitterrific, and Sketches* Try some of those too.

Does anyone else see this on their iPhone or iPhone 3G now? I'd rather see it like the first animation (like it has always been in 1.0-2.2.1).

Thank you for your time. Please respond back and let me know.

Edit: Touchgrind never shows the icon animation either... just the zooming animation. I think for a split second before the app launches, there's a slight stutter that makes it skip a few frames of the animation.

Spaz,
How did you make those animations? Also, how did you make it say carrier instead of AT&T? I'm on Windows XP and would love to do these cool animatons too. ;)
 
You could restore your backup data to get all of your 3rd party data and settings. Once that's all done, go into Settings>General>Reset>Reset All Settings. This will clear all system settings but leave application data and settings in place. This is a pretty safe method and it does the same thing as setting up new.

It does indeed work. It doesn't reset third party apps, but it puts all the system stuff back to defaults (home screen arrangement, settings, network settings). It still keeps all of your data, including text conversations, notes, bookmarks, camera roll, music, videos, podcasts... etc.

If you have any questions about this method, go ahead and ask.

Edit: I don't think this method keeps bookmarks, but I used iPhone Backup Extractor to extract my bookmarks from an iPhone backup. Then I copied the Bookmarks.plist file to Users/spaz/Library/Safari/ on my computer and sync'd the bookmarks from iTunes. Then I put my old desktop Safari bookmarks back and deleted the MobileSafari bookmarks file and turned OFF bookmarks syncing in iTunes. That way it only syncs the MobileSafari bookmarks once, then it won't sync my desktop Safari bookmarks after that.

What you're saying is that it's only the settings that matter though. I thought there was more to it than that. Also, have you really tried this to see if it acts just like a restore as new?
 
What you're saying is that it's only the settings that matter though. I thought there was more to it than that. Also, have you really tried this to see if it acts just like a restore as new?

Yes, I tried it. It works really well. You can trust me! Go ahead and do it, and you'll see. All your third party settings will be intact. It just puts the system values back to default.
 
Yes, I tried it. It works really well. You can trust me! Go ahead and do it, and you'll see. All your third party settings will be intact. It just puts the system values back to default.

He says that while laughing maniacally behind his monitor! :)

So, is there any way to get my bookmarks over to the iPhone other than what you suggested? It's not a big deal, since I could just add them back, but it would take time.
 
My iPhone 3G is snappier on 3.0.1 then 3.0 don't know why but it is, was planning on doing a restore before that but now not so much.
 
So, are you saying I should restore my 3G as new? I had been thinking of doing that anyway, when we go to 3.1, but that was due to getting better battery life. However, I've been told that restoring as new only helps with the 3GS battery life. So, I'd be willing to do it for other reasons (i.e., making my 3G run better), if anyone here can convince me it's worth it. With me, restoring from a backup, 3.0.1 is the same as 3.0.

I'm not really sure to be honest. I've never erased my iPhone or restore as new phone or what ever the option is as far as I'm aware. Every update I've installed since getting the phone I have just done as a "download and install" when prompted. I've not done anything differently with 3.0.1, but it's running really nice for me compared to 3.0
 
To be fair... it didn't happen after the 3.0 update.

Yeah when I updated to 3.0, the first thing that came to my mind was wow it's really slow.

If my 3G slows down again, maybe I should do a restore and set up as a new phone? Does it help?
 
Yeah when I updated to 3.0, the first thing that came to my mind was wow it's really slow.

If my 3G slows down again, maybe I should do a restore and set up as a new phone? Does it help?

I've been told that it's really only beneficial if you're going to a 3GS. TheSpaz would know better though. He's told me that all you need to do is reset all settings to get the effect of a restore as new phone.
 
If anyone's interested in that launch animation at full speed:

AppLaunch1.mp4 is the way it's supposed to be.

AppLaunch2.mp4 has the skip that I'm seeing on my 3G.
 

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Someone else noticed the animation bug without me telling them about it!!!

https://devforums.apple.com/thread/25196?tstart=0

Check it out! I'm very excited now!

In case you can't view the link, here's what he said:

steveo said:
When I start my app the usual "fly away" effect where the home screen icons fly offscreen and my app zooms in does not happen. Instead my Default.png displays abruptly, and then the app continues to load from there. There is no delay or operational problem. It's just kind of ugly.

My app has 700 small jpg and png resources. When I build without these resources the launch effect works as it should, so I think they're the culprit. None of these images is loaded at launch though -- I lazy load them all at the user's request.

Is there anything I can do about this?
 
Someone else noticed the animation bug without me telling them about it!!!

https://devforums.apple.com/thread/25196?tstart=0

Check it out! I'm very excited now!

In case you can't view the link, here's what he said:

Hey, someone on another thread stated he did a reset all settings and it deleted all the stuff on his iPhone. Not possible, right? I thought he made a mistake and entered erase all content.
 
Hey, someone on another thread stated he did a reset all settings and it deleted all the stuff on his iPhone. Not possible, right? I thought he made a mistake and entered erase all content.

Yes, you're not supposed to tap Erase all Content and Settings! HAH!

You're only supposed to hit Reset all Settings... That's it.

Edit: Tell you what. I've got an extra iPhone right here with bookmarks, apps and photos on it. I'm going to Reset all Settings and tell you what happens. Okay?

Edit 2: I have selected "Reset all Settings". Here are my findings.

1. It reset my home screen icon positions
2. It reset my network settings
3. Did NOT remove my Safari bookmarks (I was wrong about that one)
4. Mail settings stayed
5. iPod settings are back to default
6. Store sign-in settings reset. I am signed out.
7. Backlight is back to 50%
8. All General settings are back to default
9. Wallpaper is still intact
10. Sounds have been set to default.
11. Notes are still intact
12. Photos are still intact
13. SMS message conversations unchanged
14. Phone favorites unchanged
15. Third party app settings remain untouched (I'm still logged into Twitterrific and all my settings are the same)
 
Just an update. I think I figured out how to get the opening animations to look better. I think it has to do with the Snapshot file that the apps save when you quit them. Next time you launch the app, it launches with the saved snapshot instead of the Default.png file.

So what I did was I just LOCKED the Snapshots folder here: mobile/Library/Caches/Snapshots. This way, the apps can't make a separate screenshot, therefore it HAS to load from the Default.png file within the App's resources.

I hope some of that made sense. It helped with Mail and Safari so far. I need to do some more testing.

(Yeah, I know... I'm posting again, but I thought I'd post something helpful since I'm a nice person and all).
 
Just an update. I think I figured out how to get the opening animations to look better. I think it has to do with the Snapshot file that the apps save when you quit them. Next time you launch the app, it launches with the saved snapshot instead of the Default.png file.

So what I did was I just LOCKED the Snapshots folder here: mobile/Library/Caches/Snapshots. This way, the apps can't make a separate screenshot, therefore it HAS to load from the Default.png file within the App's resources.

I hope some of that made sense. It helped with Mail and Safari so far. I need to do some more testing.

(Yeah, I know... I'm posting again, but I thought I'd post something helpful since I'm a nice person and all).

For windows, do you mean make the files read only?
 
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