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Why make an issue of accidentally unplugging your eGPU and possibly crashing the system, you are the idiot that unplugged it, so the blame lies squarely on the end users proficiency in the use of their said device. ...
If you dont know what an eGPU is or what you would want it for, you dont need it. Im also pretty sure you have already found plenty of other ways to crash your system because you dont know what you are doing as an end user.

Finally, words of wisdom not written by the Apple PR board.

Where oh where did this"must be able to be disconnected at a moments notice with everything running fine" rule come from? Has anyone with a brain thought about it? Is Apple known for hot swappable CPUs or RAM? Do we demand being able to switch Boot disk while machine running?

I'm going to call it the "Tsunami Rule" because I can think of no other circumstance where someone could claim that they don't have the 60 seconds needed to shut down their machine and unplug the eGPU.

INT. SMITH LIVING ROOM - DAY

Dad runs in to find his pimply son Danny playing video games via his laptop. A TB cable connects to an eGPU on their Plasma in living room. Dad is nervous and fidgety.

Dad: Danny, we need to go NOW ! Turn off your laptop and bring it !

Danny: But Dad, I've just hit level 17 in Tomb Raider 12, I'll lose all my Secret Lamps !

Dad: The McMurphries house was just swallowed up by a 50 foot wall of water, if you don't run in the next 10 seconds, you'll never be found.

Danny: OK, I'll disconnect my eGPU on the fly and crash my computer since you say it's an emergency. I'll have to start back at level 12, once we rebuild the house. Darn.

Seriously, why do we need instant disconnect as a prerequisite? When in life do we not have 1 minute to turn a machine off? To remove a disc, you eject it first. And there is no protocol to eject a boot disk without shutdown first.

This insistence on "eGPU must be removable while machine running with no ill effects" is like demanding that a car have a transmission that can be serviced while the car is going 60 MPH on the freeway.

So, two choices are:

1. eGPUs greatly expanding power, speed, and uses of computers but you can't yank the plug without eject protocol or shutting down first.

2. Demand 100% hot plug/unplug capabilities and soldier through with weak kneed D300s and all of the other wimpy Intel chips that shipped in various Macs in last 3 years.

And while you debate that, I'll get to level 18 on my 2014 Mini 1.4 Ghz, using GPU power that nMP users can only dream of. (and keep my secret lamps)

Here is another script :

EXT. PIRATE BOUNTY SALVAGE SHIP - DAY

Captain Blythe clicks along on his peg leg, approaching the compressor that sends air down to their diver. He grasps the air line, preparing to yank it out. Sailor Chuck comes along, concerned with what Blythe is about to do.

SAILOR CHUCK: Captain, are you going to yank his air hose? He is 500 feet down getting doubloons, he'll drown.

BLYTHE: Arr, not if he's a good swimmer he won't, I call this the "Coast Guard Test" I yank the plug and see what happens.

SAILOR CHUCK: How have the past divers done on your test?

BLYTHE: Shiver me timbers, they all drowned like the rats they were.

SAILOR CHUCK: But if you just tugged on the cord 3 times so they knew you saw the coast guard and needed to leave, they'd swim up. You'd get more doubloons and not have to get a new diver every week.

BLYTHE: Damn my bones, they may be as so, but that isn't the test. The test is to yank the cord and see what happens.

SAILOR CHUCK: Well, it's a dumb test.

BLYTHE: Mayhaps yes, and mayhaps no, but you'd better hope he passes, you're next on the diver list. Ahhrr.....

POLLY (parrot): Drowned like a rat, ahhrr. (whistles and shakes feathers)

So, why again is yanking test so crucial? What life shattering event would require this? How often would that event occur in real life?

Why not just have a protocol for ejecting the eGPU, or just live with shutting down? I guess it could be argued that the mDP plug itself is so flimsy and easy to remove that this is more likely then if you used a more robust plug like...a real DisplayPort plug, but poor design should not be the reason to make stupid demands.
 
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Rumors of iMac 21" 4K coming with Broadwell instead of Skylake. Weird at this point.
Resolution is higher than any 4K standard. Didn't do the math but will it fit in the DP1.2 bandwidth requirements? Just curious. It might not be a target display.
I wouldn't think Apple will release a 21" stand alone monitor either. Too small already.
 
About the display. Apple Thunderbolt Display on refurbished store was 799$, now its 699$. Not that it means something, but that type of discounts are not usual for Apple, unless... something is on its way.
 
Not sure why people are going on about this idea that unplugging an eGPU has to crash the system. That might be the way hobbyist solutions work right now but if Apple decided to ship one that's obviously not the way it would work. OSX handles GPUs going offline in the display services, OpenGL, and even Metal and Apple would build any sort of eGPU support on top of that. That said, an eGPU chassis would likely be way too low volume a product for Apple, but maybe an embedded GPU in a 5K/8K display. The thing is, Apple already has an eGPU for the markets it cares about, it's called the Apple TV.
 
Finally, words of wisdom not written by the Apple PR board.

Where oh where did this"must be able to be disconnected at a moments notice with everything running fine" rule come from? Has anyone with a brain thought about it? Is Apple known for hot swappable CPUs or RAM? Do we demand being able to switch Boot disk while machine running?

I'm going to call it the "Tsunami Rule" because I can think of no other circumstance where someone could claim that they don't have the 60 seconds needed to shut down their machine and unplug the eGPU.

INT. SMITH LIVING ROOM - DAY

Dad runs in to find his pimply son Danny playing video games via his laptop. A TB cable connects to an eGPU on their Plasma in living room. Dad is nervous and fidgety.

Dad: Danny, we need to go NOW ! Turn off your laptop and bring it !

Danny: But Dad, I've just hit level 17 in Tomb Raider 12, I'll lose all my Secret Lamps !

Dad: The McMurphries house was just swallowed up by a 50 foot wall of water, if you don't run in the next 10 seconds, you'll never be found.

Danny: OK, I'll disconnect my eGPU on the fly and crash my computer since you say it's an emergency. I'll have to start back at level 12, once we rebuild the house. Darn.

Seriously, why do we need instant disconnect as a prerequisite? When in life do we not have 1 minute to turn a machine off? To remove a disc, you eject it first. And there is no protocol to eject a boot disk without shutdown first.

This insistence on "eGPU must be removable while machine running with no ill effects" is like demanding that a car have a transmission that can be serviced while the car is going 60 MPH on the freeway.

So, two choices are:

1. eGPUs greatly expanding power, speed, and uses of computers but you can't yank the plug without eject protocol or shutting down first.

2. Demand 100% hot plug/unplug capabilities and soldier through with weak kneed D300s and all of the other wimpy Intel chips that shipped in various Macs in last 3 years.

And while you debate that, I'll get to level 18 on my 2014 Mini 1.4 Ghz, using GPU power that nMP users can only dream of. (and keep my secret lamps)

Here is another script :

EXT. PIRATE BOUNTY SALVAGE SHIP - DAY

Captain Blythe clicks along on his peg leg, approaching the compressor that sends air down to their diver. He grasps the air line, preparing to yank it out. Sailor Chuck comes along, concerned with what Blythe is about to do.

SAILOR CHUCK: Captain, are you going to yank his air hose? He is 500 feet down getting doubloons, he'll drown.

BLYTHE: Arr, not if he's a good swimmer he won't, I call this the "Coast Guard Test" I yank the plug and see what happens.

SAILOR CHUCK: How have the past divers done on your test?

BLYTHE: Shiver me timbers, they all drowned like the rats they were.

SAILOR CHUCK: But if you just tugged on the cord 3 times so they knew you saw the coast guard and needed to leave, they'd swim up. You'd get more doubloons and not have to get a new diver every week.

BLYTHE: Damn my bones, they may be as so, but that isn't the test. The test is to yank the cord and see what happens.

SAILOR CHUCK: Well, it's a dumb test.

BLYTHE: Mayhaps yes, and mayhaps no, but you'd better hope he passes, you're next on the diver list. Ahhrr.....

POLLY (parrot): Drowned like a rat, ahhrr. (whistles and shakes feathers)

So, why again is yanking test so crucial? What life shattering event would require this? How often would that event occur in real life?

Why not just have a protocol for ejecting the eGPU, or just live with shutting down? I guess it could be argued that the mDP plug itself is so flimsy and easy to remove that this is more likely then if you used a more robust plug like...a real DisplayPort plug, but poor design should not be the reason to make stupid demands.
so what happened to danny? did he survive as well?
 
Unfortunately Apple trying to make things idiot proof has made exponentially more idiots using computers who have no right getting their hands on one.
Why make an issue of accidentally unplugging your eGPU and possibly crashing the system, you are the idiot that unplugged it, so the blame lies squarely on the end users proficiency in the use of their said device.
I really don't think you really have any idea how behind the times and backwards this sounds. You're entitled to that opinion of course, but with an attitude like that, it doesn't make much sense why you would even want a Mac or even care about it. The vast majority of users seek out the Mac to get away from what you're talking about.
 
Rumors of iMac 21" 4K coming with Broadwell instead of Skylake. Weird at this point.
Resolution is higher than any 4K standard. Didn't do the math but will it fit in the DP1.2 bandwidth requirements? Just curious. It might not be a target display.
I wouldn't think Apple will release a 21" stand alone monitor either. Too small already.

My guess is that Apple wants to drop the discrete GPU in the 21" iMac. Apple wouldn't use the standard integrated graphics if they don't have to, so they will want to opt for the Iris Pro graphics, which is only available in Broadwell right now. A good question is when will the 27" iMac be updated? Within the next two months with skylake, or will Apple hold off until next year?

I really don't think you really have any idea how behind the times and backwards this sounds. You're entitled to that opinion of course, but with an attitude like that, it doesn't make much sense why you would even want a Mac or even care about it. The vast majority of users seek out the Mac to get away from what you're talking about.

I don't believe there are any peripherals (besides the power cord on desktops) that have the capability of crashing the machine. Let me ask a question for those more knowledgeable than me. Could an external GPU work in a manner similar to how GPU switching works in current MBPs? I know in this case the OS requests the switch, but it is relatively instantaneous without any sort of transfer of the memory contents.

Another note when it comes to external GPUs, I think its unlikely we will see anything like this from Apple. But if we did, it won't be a "box with slot" that can use any off the shelf graphics card. Apple would want thunderbolt output and drivers that are included in OS X.
 
My guess is that Apple wants to drop the discrete GPU in the 21" iMac. Apple wouldn't use the standard integrated graphics if they don't have to, so they will want to opt for the Iris Pro graphics, which is only available in Broadwell right now. A good question is when will the 27" iMac be updated? Within the next two months with skylake, or will Apple hold off until next year?
Great point on Broadwell.

I could also see Apple switching to mobile CPUs for the entire 21" lineup when it does move to Skylake.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them updating the 5K 27" to Skylake while leaving alone (or discontinuing) the non-5K 27". The 5K 27" will continue to use dGPU for the foreseeable future, so Broadwell isn't of any help there.

I don't believe there are any peripherals (besides the power cord on desktops) that have the capability of crashing the machine. Let me ask a question for those more knowledgeable than me. Could an external GPU work in a manner similar to how GPU switching works in current MBPs? I know in this case the OS requests the switch, but it is relatively instantaneous without any sort of transfer of the memory contents.

Another note when it comes to external GPUs, I think its unlikely we will see anything like this from Apple. But if we did, it won't be a "box with slot" that can use any off the shelf graphics card. Apple would want thunderbolt output and drivers that are included in OS X.
Not sure if you quoted me in agreement or what, but regarding your questions, you're not going to get a definitive answer since obviously no one here knows.

Theoretically, it's possible of course in the future, but it's pretty obvious why it would be a technical challenge. The "easy" part is plugging in an eGPU. The challenging part is unplugging it while it's in use (without clicking some sort of eject button). At least for the next few years, seamless switching (like on a laptop) isn't likely to happen.

I think the best we can hope for is that some software mechanism would be able to prevent a system/app crash, and the end result to the user would be equivalent to turning on and off the display as things momentarily freeze up before returning to normal. How much of a disruption would be tolerably to Apple for them to officially support eGPU (i.e. build what's necessary into OS X), again, no one here really knows, and even if Apple could get there, what's in it for them to spend the resources to develop that? We can speculate all we want.

I agree that there's no way that Apple would market a BYOGPU to an eGPU box. It's very unlikely in the short term that they would have any such product, but as the market develops over the next decade, it wouldn't be crazy to think they might have some sort of eGPU product with everything sealed in using proprietary form-factor GPUs - something that looks like the current AirPort Extreme.

Just my speculations.
 
Where oh where did this"must be able to be disconnected at a moments notice with everything running fine" rule come from?

I'm just telling you how it is. You don't have to like it. Them's the rule Apple has.

Given how Thunderbolt plugs have a tendency to accidentally disconnect it's not really even a stupid idea either. But anything that could make the operating system crash and/or cause data loss is just flat out not going to be supported by Apple officially. That's how it works.
 
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I'm just telling you how it is. You don't have to like it. Them's the rule Apple has.

Given how Thunderbolt plugs have a tendency to accidentally disconnect it's not really even a stupid idea either. But anything that could make the operating system crash and/or cause data loss is just flat out not going to be supported by Apple officially. That's how it works.

Well, at least they've improved Facebook and twitter integration. I understand the new keyboards won't have actual keys, just app and emoji buttons.
 
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ladies and gentle...from my thread...i posted a link to a page where they may have black listed mac pro permanently.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...f-the-road-for-mac-pro.1912785/#post-21784856

True or not....i don't know anymore.

I don't know if those rumors are true or not. But there are a lot of ways to read into that, and I doubt the Mac Pro would be cut.

If you think about it, with Intel's release schedule, a dedicated Mac Pro team is getting kind of silly even if Apple wasn't cutting the Mac Pro.

There's a lot that could be read into with Mac Pro sales too. Apple knows they had a machine that sold well, and if it doesn't any more, they might be willing to change more. It's a machine that's used by a lot of people at Apple, so it's not as if they don't know the value of the Mac Pro.

It's just hard to make the jump from the Mac Pro isn't in a picture, or even the Mac Pro team being disbanded, to the Mac Pro being discontinued. Not many machines at Apple have dedicated teams, so I've been surprised the Mac Pro still does.

TLDR: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
I don't know if those rumors are true or not. But there are a lot of ways to read into that, and I doubt the Mac Pro would be cut.

If you think about it, with Intel's release schedule, a dedicated Mac Pro team is getting kind of silly even if Apple wasn't cutting the Mac Pro.

There's a lot that could be read into with Mac Pro sales too. Apple knows they had a machine that sold well, and if it doesn't any more, they might be willing to change more. It's a machine that's used by a lot of people at Apple, so it's not as if they don't know the value of the Mac Pro.

It's just hard to make the jump from the Mac Pro isn't in a picture, or even the Mac Pro team being disbanded, to the Mac Pro being discontinued. Not many machines at Apple have dedicated teams, so I've been surprised the Mac Pro still does.

TLDR: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don't disagree with you..but then i don't think they even use mac pro as much as iMAC (apple staffs). Also, apple will follow where money goes...that could be one factor. Another thing...since apple and IBM partnered up...who knows what could happen. I agree with intel's release schedule...but if you look at the whole thing...something doesn't add up. Even the portrait of products...mac pro was left out...and this MCV guy from other thread told me that he didn't nMP or any products being shown at BMD. I don't know...but it's more likely they did kill it off.
 
I don't disagree with you..but then i don't think they even use mac pro as much as iMAC (apple staffs). Also, apple will follow where money goes...that could be one factor. Another thing...since apple and IBM partnered up...who knows what could happen. I agree with intel's release schedule...but if you look at the whole thing...something doesn't add up. Even the portrait of products...mac pro was left out...and this MCV guy from other thread told me that he didn't nMP or any products being shown at BMD. I don't know...but it's more likely they did kill it off.

I don't think the lack of the nMP at BMD has anything to do with anything internally at Apple. MVC is always proclaiming doom. From the noise he's been making over the past few years you wouldn't even know Apple had a dedicated Mac Pro team.
 
I don't think the lack of the nMP at BMD has anything to do with anything internally at Apple. MVC is always proclaiming doom. From the noise he's been making over the past few years you wouldn't even know Apple had a dedicated Mac Pro team.
lol i guess...man...i need a new mac pro... you predict they will release it according to the schedule? I don't know what Tim is thinking in regards to mac pro itself....
 
Rumors of iMac 21" 4K coming with Broadwell instead of Skylake. Weird at this point.
Resolution is higher than any 4K standard. Didn't do the math but will it fit in the DP1.2 bandwidth requirements? Just curious. It might not be a target display.
I wouldn't think Apple will release a 21" stand alone monitor either. Too small already.

4K at 21" is what is required to achieve Apples definition of retina on a desktop display... >200PPI. It was predicted immediately after the 5K 27" rumours started. Surprised it's taken this long. It will have the real-estate of a 1080P display but retina sharp. It will work fine with DP1.2 just like other 4K displays but that's probably irrelevant since I agree with you that a stand-alone 21" 4K display has limited appeal.
 
EXT. PIRATE BOUNTY SALVAGE SHIP - DAY

Captain Blythe clicks along on his peg leg, approaching the compressor that sends air down to their diver. He grasps the air line, preparing to yank it out. Sailor Chuck comes along, concerned with what Blythe is about to do.

SAILOR CHUCK: Captain, are you going to yank his air hose? He is 500 feet down getting doubloons, he'll drown.

BLYTHE: Arr, not if he's a good swimmer he won't, I call this the "Coast Guard Test" I yank the plug and see what happens.

SAILOR CHUCK: How have the past divers done on your test?

BLYTHE: Shiver me timbers, they all drowned like the rats they were.

SAILOR CHUCK: But if you just tugged on the cord 3 times so they knew you saw the coast guard and needed to leave, they'd swim up. You'd get more doubloons and not have to get a new diver every week.

BLYTHE: Damn my bones, they may be as so, but that isn't the test. The test is to yank the cord and see what happens.

SAILOR CHUCK: Well, it's a dumb test.

BLYTHE: Mayhaps yes, and mayhaps no, but you'd better hope he passes, you're next on the diver list. Ahhrr.....

POLLY (parrot): Drowned like a rat, ahhrr. (whistles and shakes feathers)

ROFLMAO! Awesome. Best post in recent memory. :D
 
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I don't believe there are any peripherals (besides the power cord on desktops) that have the capability of crashing the machine.

My bluetooth speaker blue-screened the hell out of my lenovo laptop. And it wasn't even connected to the machine with a cord. So what are talking about here?!
 
Why make an issue of accidentally unplugging your eGPU and possibly crashing the system, you are the idiot that unplugged it, so the blame lies squarely on the end users proficiency in the use of their said device.
I don't believe there are any peripherals (besides the power cord on desktops) that have the capability of crashing the machine.
Where oh where did this"must be able to be disconnected at a moments notice with everything running fine" rule come from? Has anyone with a brain thought about it? Is Apple known for hot swappable CPUs or RAM? Do we demand being able to switch Boot disk while machine running?
I'm just telling you how it is. You don't have to like it. Them's the rule Apple has.
Given how Thunderbolt plugs have a tendency to accidentally disconnect it's not really even a stupid idea either. But anything that could make the operating system crash and/or cause data loss is just flat out not going to be supported by Apple officially. That's how it works.

Is it possible for someone to just open the case of a system, while running, and just start to disconnect any part of the internals without a problem?

For the case of an eGPU.
Isn't this solution a direct extension of a system's internal vital components?

i.e. If someone selects and use as a startup drive an external disk, and as everybody knows this is something that Apple officially supports, and during use, suddenly, this person just disconnects from the TB/usb/fw port the startup disk's cable, what will happen? and who is responsible? can you eject without problems a startup drive in any system, without problems? Is this Apple's problem / lack of tech knowledge?
Why should an eGPU be a different thing?
The problems someone has to face and resolve to enable a kind of users to disconnect an eGPU from their system while turned on are a million times more than just simply shut down and do the job. Just 15-20" needed for the whole reboot with the current SSDs.
All devices aren't the same, a GPU is not like an iPhone or a printer or whatever peripheral, it is like the CPUs, RAM and m/b chipsets, it's something that a system has to have it always available to function properly.
You can't just disconnect CPUs, RAM, GPUs or whatever you want anytime you want, there are some rules...
 
Finally, words of wisdom not written by the Apple PR board.

Where oh where did this"must be able to be disconnected at a moments notice with everything running fine" rule come from? Has anyone with a brain thought about it? Is Apple known for hot swappable CPUs or RAM? Do we demand being able to switch Boot disk while machine running?

I'm going to call it the "Tsunami Rule" because I can think of no other circumstance where someone could claim that they don't have the 60 seconds needed to shut down their machine and unplug the eGPU.

INT. SMITH LIVING ROOM - DAY

Dad runs in to find his pimply son Danny playing video games via his laptop. A TB cable connects to an eGPU on their Plasma in living room. Dad is nervous and fidgety.

Dad: Danny, we need to go NOW ! Turn off your laptop and bring it !

Danny: But Dad, I've just hit level 17 in Tomb Raider 12, I'll lose all my Secret Lamps !

Dad: The McMurphries house was just swallowed up by a 50 foot wall of water, if you don't run in the next 10 seconds, you'll never be found.

Danny: OK, I'll disconnect my eGPU on the fly and crash my computer since you say it's an emergency. I'll have to start back at level 12, once we rebuild the house. Darn.

Seriously, why do we need instant disconnect as a prerequisite? When in life do we not have 1 minute to turn a machine off? To remove a disc, you eject it first. And there is no protocol to eject a boot disk without shutdown first.

This insistence on "eGPU must be removable while machine running with no ill effects" is like demanding that a car have a transmission that can be serviced while the car is going 60 MPH on the freeway.

So, two choices are:

1. eGPUs greatly expanding power, speed, and uses of computers but you can't yank the plug without eject protocol or shutting down first.

2. Demand 100% hot plug/unplug capabilities and soldier through with weak kneed D300s and all of the other wimpy Intel chips that shipped in various Macs in last 3 years.

And while you debate that, I'll get to level 18 on my 2014 Mini 1.4 Ghz, using GPU power that nMP users can only dream of. (and keep my secret lamps)

Here is another script :

EXT. PIRATE BOUNTY SALVAGE SHIP - DAY

Captain Blythe clicks along on his peg leg, approaching the compressor that sends air down to their diver. He grasps the air line, preparing to yank it out. Sailor Chuck comes along, concerned with what Blythe is about to do.

SAILOR CHUCK: Captain, are you going to yank his air hose? He is 500 feet down getting doubloons, he'll drown.

BLYTHE: Arr, not if he's a good swimmer he won't, I call this the "Coast Guard Test" I yank the plug and see what happens.

SAILOR CHUCK: How have the past divers done on your test?

BLYTHE: Shiver me timbers, they all drowned like the rats they were.

SAILOR CHUCK: But if you just tugged on the cord 3 times so they knew you saw the coast guard and needed to leave, they'd swim up. You'd get more doubloons and not have to get a new diver every week.

BLYTHE: Damn my bones, they may be as so, but that isn't the test. The test is to yank the cord and see what happens.

SAILOR CHUCK: Well, it's a dumb test.

BLYTHE: Mayhaps yes, and mayhaps no, but you'd better hope he passes, you're next on the diver list. Ahhrr.....

POLLY (parrot): Drowned like a rat, ahhrr. (whistles and shakes feathers)

So, why again is yanking test so crucial? What life shattering event would require this? How often would that event occur in real life?

Why not just have a protocol for ejecting the eGPU, or just live with shutting down? I guess it could be argued that the mDP plug itself is so flimsy and easy to remove that this is more likely then if you used a more robust plug like...a real DisplayPort plug, but poor design should not be the reason to make stupid demands.

:)A very nice post. Thank you, it was really enjoyable...
 
Yeah, Mac Pro will be cut out. Especially when drivers in El Cap Beta provide deviceID and FrameBuffer linked to Mac Pro and Fiji chips.

Yeah, Mac Pro is not selling. And AMD thanks to Mac Pro itself got over 50% of market share of workstation market. And predicts that this is the market where they will see the highest growth.


People here are living in the past believing that things will be like they were before. Technology is moving forward. Why would anyone want the ability to upgrade their machine when with every new generation of Xeon Chips you will get new socket? Why would you want to upgrade the GPU inside your computer when eGPUs are the way to go, to get more compute power?


Believing that workstation market is going to be like it was few years ago is delusional. Whole thing is just reanimating the dead. There is a lot of technology that will come out in near and far future, that will change all of the markets. Apple just adjusted themselves to the future. You better get used to it guys.
 
EXT. PIRATE BOUNTY SALVAGE SHIP - DAY

Captain Blythe clicks along on his peg leg, approaching the compressor that sends air down to their diver. He grasps the air line, preparing to yank it out. Sailor Chuck comes along, concerned with what Blythe is about to do.

SAILOR CHUCK: Captain, are you going to yank his air hose? He is 500 feet down getting doubloons, he'll drown.

Goddammit, you do work in Hollywood!

And you've just leaked the script to Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Macs Tell No Tales.

Bruckheimer will have your scalp for this. He might even send you to Australia, where they will shoot your dog!
 
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