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Will there ever be a new large iMac (Pro)?
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I don't understand German but he is entertaining!!! I can't stand iJustine and her Apple centric reviews.
Spare me iJustine. *stomach churning.*
At least the German guy has character.
Azrael.
Gaming is intense, right? (Like this fellow. He just got on with it! Showed the games. And how quiet it was doing it. ie. He gets us. That's what we want to know. Didn't talk us to death with the machine in a corner doing nothing.)
HD. Lots of it. 100s of fps. Silent running. On a monitor that can 60 hz.
Let the games begin...
Azrael.
The quote of 2020.
Modest fellow, teh Creg.
Intel had to deal with AMD. A cash strapped company.
2 trillion Apple are getting in the ring with its own Apple Silicon.
Azrael.
Sorry but it look terrible... Especially the Witcher.
For me personally, 1080 is unacceptable on this display. Once upon a time I tried to play XCOM 2 on a iMac 27 and I had a choice to set either the average graphics and 1080, or lags at 1440p with the minimal. I had to choose the 2nd option, because on the 1st, due to blurring, I could not even distinguish which flags on the back of the units. And so in many games, the picture is too blurry.
Might be 2021 for the larger AS iMac but if Apple were going to wait until June 2021 before releasing the smaller AS iMac I'd have expected Apple to have given the 21.5" iMac a spec bump along with 27" but they didn't, and for me that supports the rumours of the lower end products shifting to ARM first. October or November along with a couple of laptops seems most likely.
There are Mac games. And there are some crackers with a divergent look and narrative to them. (Not everything has to be Doom Eternal...)
And I find it bemusing when people say there isn't 'Mac' gaming. There is money to be made on the Mac platform.
An installed base of 100 million. £££.
Azrael.
Hmm. Yes. I'll take your point about the 'blurring' issue. When I've tried to change res' in Bootcamp, the 1080 on my 2012 isn't as sharp as the native res. With 5k...you'd want the 1440p to get 'half' res for the elements to be sharper.
But equally so. HD will perform fast and not task the fans that much. (It shouldn't do. We have recent gpus and HD is a year's old format now.)
Still, initial reports of UHD are promising for games.
I'm looking forward to sampling a 5k display for the 1st time not only in games but creativity.
Azrael.
*Shrugs.* It can make a difference. Sure someone will bench that. But to me. I'm going with the 2666mhz.
Presumably you'd pay more for that 3200mhz..? And is the difference seismic?
Azrael.
Lower end. Consumer. More units sold. Bigger market. Air and iMac24 probably comprise most of that 4-5 million Mac units sold.
It makes sense that a consumer laptop...then to be followed by the most popular consumer desktop will follow.
MB13 and Air? That's probably a couple of million units or 3 million. 1 million for the iMac? And the Pro/Mini dividing up the rest.
Azrael.
Yeah...my Intel iMac will have to apply the vaseline when the AS iMac 32 incher (?) comes out.
'Cough, Sir...'
Azrael.
Point is, at a base level it works fine.
This is also the base spec here, let's see what the T3 and 5700 XT do.
Yep. That's the 5300 kicking some high fps az on those games. No fan noise.
Azrael.
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If this is what we get. I'll be happy. An influx of new racers. Some with innovation. Some with great graphics. And some decent pricing.
And wait until they start optimising for AS.
Azrael.
Not really all that impressive frankly. #2 on this list is 4.5 years old, #1 needed an external GPU and still only got FPS in the 40s. Not exactly mind blowing. macOS gaming has been lackluster at best, call a spade a spade.
It has been FINE though as you can easily boot in to Windows (GPU drivers are generally better anyway) and have whatever you want.
AS means more iOS games for mac, but it will be interesting to see how much native macOS games get developed first going forward. Either way, there are better ways to game than a mac.
Gaming on the Mac has been lacklustre giving the promise of the 1st rate prices you pay with 'last year's gpu tech'.
And the gaming Mac list reflects that as an overview.
With Boot Camp. You can play any game you wish. The perks of an Intel Mac.
But even the last 5 years of Intel/NV/AMD. Hardly 'mind blowing.' At all. If Doom Eternal is anything to go by. Just more of the same big gun running around and hopping about. (I'd prefer Thing on a Spring...myself...)
That's the thing. When you have stalled cpu, ssd and gpu progress. You just get games that look pretty much the same and do the same.
I'd say gaming on the Mac with the respectability you'd expect from the 'industry leading' prices is something that will come from AS. And the unifying iOS/Mac family of cpus, stores and deployment tech'.
As for my own personal needs. I don't have time to game like I did when I was packing a C64. (For me, personally, those experiences won't be equalled. I loved the games. The stories. The imagination. And the innovation.)
But there is the 'odd' PC game I 'must' play.
Though I have enjoyed playing The Last of Us on the PS3. (I bought it for my Mum and the console itself.)
My recent years gaming highlights have been Resident Evil 4 on the Game Cube. (A masterpiece game.) The Batman games on PS3. (Great combat system.) And City of Heroes on PC/Mac. (Hero MMO that has seen a revival thanks to the freedom fighters in the Hero community.) WoW on the Mac is respectible. Don't play it anymore. But if you like MMOs I'd say you have to try a Death Knight or a Demon Hunter....
Tastes vary. But I know what I like. And so do others.
The intensive 'next gen' (graphically?) Has been waiting a long time. Ray Tracing on a console at £399/499? Yes please. And with lightning fast load times?
RDNA2/Ampere for PC. The PS5 for the console market. AS for the Mac market (consumer Macs with decent gpus at last...)
It's been a long time coming. Mac gaming hasn't draped itself in gloring for a litany of reasons. But the much vaunted PC market has to point to an overpriced 2080Ti at £1200 to get acceptable 4k performance to play Doom Eternal?
Meh.
Azrael.
True. But I did enjoy Marathon games by Bungie back on my 1997 Power Mac. Eery. Great gameplay.
More so than Doom.
...and I did a bit of Unreal Tournement back in 2000. PReferred it to the run and jump Quake iii.
Azrael.