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Will there ever be a new large iMac (Pro)?
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I agree with others, this is bloody disgusting and unless you are new to Apple then you should already know where Apple stands.
Awful, just pure awful.
People literally have no taste. Its so sad!
Awful, just pure awful.
[automerge]1598460604[/automerge]So it seems it will be with Apple Silicon that we see a redesign. I have suggested previously on Mac Rumors (maybe even in this thread) that instead of an arc to the back, there should be a step in the back. The new AOC U32U1 monitor has a similar layout to illustrate my point. The box on the back may need to be bigger to allow for a full computer, but the format would still work.
I didn't think of having the box separate, but it creates some interesting opportunities. The monitor has height adjustment hidden between the box and screen, which would work well on an iMac. It would also allow for more cooling opportunities with the channel between the box and screen. Plus screen and computer repairs would be much easier. Perhaps they could even include a VESA mount so you can add your own screen.
People literally have no taste. Its so sad!
I was referring to the features, not the exact design. I think a step works much better than an arc (it allows a bigger internal volume without creating too excessive an arc, and that volume is around where the components are, allowing better cooling options). The iMac lacks ergonomics because there is no height adjustment, Apple is more likely to have height adjustment if it can hide the mechanism. Only adjusting the screen, not the rest of the components allows that mechanism to be much simpler than if it also carrying the weight of the full computer. It would allow much better repairability options.
You can try to slow walk it back, but out of the bag. If Apple wanted it adjustable, they would have and could have done it. Period.
The LG Ultrafines have it that they sell, and it's way more elegant than that abomination you shared for Apple inspiration, eeek.
The iMac has not been adjustable since 2004 so I would not be surprised if the Apple Silicon models do not offer it.
If you need/desire adjustability, the VESA mount version with a good arm offers so much more flexibility.
If you need/desire adjustability, the VESA mount version with a good arm offers so much more flexibility.
VESA mount isn't an elegant option. I do feel not offering adjustability limits the market. My last employer (a university) listed height adjustment within the health & safely assessments of the workplace. That probably applies to many companies, therefore restricting a lot of sales.
Design is not your strongest things so lets just leave it to them. What you posted (even as an example) was hidious, tasteless and purely awful.
Don't defend it even slightly please if you want to be taken seriously. Apple stands for amazing design and they always (and sometimes it frustrates us when they choose form over function) go with design first.
What you are proposing is not even close to anything good. I think the most closest thing to what Apple 'might' do is iPad on a stand. Kinda like mix of XDR and iPad Pro. The stand is the big question mark of course but the rest is kinda likely.
So, find something more elegant and Apple like or don't worry about it. My eyes hurts just from that awfulness you showed us. Hard to take it back
Although, it could be worse. :-D
Don't defend it even slightly please if you want to be taken seriously. Apple stands for amazing design and they always (and sometimes it frustrates us when they choose form over function) go with design first.
What you are proposing is not even close to anything good. I think the most closest thing to what Apple 'might' do is iPad on a stand. Kinda like mix of XDR and iPad Pro. The stand is the big question mark of course but the rest is kinda likely.
So, find something more elegant and Apple like or don't worry about it. My eyes hurts just from that awfulness you showed us. Hard to take it back
Although, it could be worse. :-D
Elegance isn't a requirement, nonsense. There are solutions. Your preference =/= regulations.
Hmm... I think the less said about that particular design the better. Nah, I just can’t help myself. Chromed phallic feet, brushed metal “chunk” (whatever that thing back there is), black plastic display casing? Sigh...So it seems it will be with Apple Silicon that we see a redesign. I have suggested previously on Mac Rumors (maybe even in this thread) that instead of an arc to the back, there should be a step in the back. The new AOC U32U1 monitor has a similar layout to illustrate my point. The box on the back may need to be bigger to allow for a full computer, but the format would still work.
I didn't think of having the box separate, but it creates some interesting opportunities. The monitor has height adjustment hidden between the box and screen, which would work well on an iMac. It would also allow for more cooling opportunities with the channel between the box and screen. Plus screen and computer repairs would be much easier. Perhaps they could even include a VESA mount so you can add your own screen.
But let‘s not take ourselves too seriously. To explore your suggestion a little further, I’m imagining an XDR with the stand, except the vertical part of the stand is thicker to accommodate the guts, and the display is thinner to more resemble the iPad. A fan (god forbid) could suck air in and exhaust it from the back of the stand, further isolating the user from any fan noise. There would be height adjustment, but no side-to-side. Interesting...
Finally someone who actually read my post. Thank you.
Yes the stand is phallic, and the black plastic doesn't go well with the rest of it. I also think the chrome doesn't match the other metal, and the gap between the box and the display is too large, plus the radius of the box corners do not match those of the screen. Those are not the elements I was using as an example.
I like the way you have explored further. The idea is similar to what I have suggested in the past with almost as much misunderstanding. An XDR with deeper upright to the stand to accommodate the computing elements, and a thinner screen because high brightness mini-LED is unlikely to be used.
The Pro Display XDR does not use MiniLED backlighting, which is why it is so thick. It needs active cooling for all the high-power LEDs providing the high-Nit backlighting.
MiniLED should allow for fairly cooler operation while still offering higher-Nit brightness (though probably not as high as the XDR - especially sustained).
Sorry, yes after checking it is not mini-LED, it was just reported that way by many at launch as they are used just like mini-LED is expected to be used. To get that brightness is still going to create a lot of heat, so I don't expect a wafer thin XDR in the future, but the point still stands that an iMac screen is likely to be thinner.
Remarkable what is possible when the expected TDP is low in a computer. Can we also get the computer part to be replaceable so we do not need to through out a perfectly fine screen, I would be even more happy.
So it seems it will be with Apple Silicon that we see a redesign. I have suggested previously on Mac Rumors (maybe even in this thread) that instead of an arc to the back, there should be a step in the back. The new AOC U32U1 monitor has a similar layout to illustrate my point. The box on the back may need to be bigger to allow for a full computer, but the format would still work.
I didn't think of having the box separate, but it creates some interesting opportunities. The monitor has height adjustment hidden between the box and screen, which would work well on an iMac. It would also allow for more cooling opportunities with the channel between the box and screen. Plus screen and computer repairs would be much easier. Perhaps they could even include a VESA mount so you can add your own screen.
Interesting. That's strikingly different.
But not an 'Apple Elegant' design. But I can see what you're getting at re: the possibilities. eg. An AIO which has docked display.
AS will allow a host of possibilities. From more tightly integrated iPhones, iPads and docking stations that you could 'dock' a larger iPad 'screen'/tablet too. Or an easel iMac (once 'promised' by the iLamp design?)
I'd expect the 1st AS designs to be conventional ones based on more svelte repackaging of the current Intel design. Slimmer...cooler...longer running portables.
Anything more exotic like easel design or docking stations or modular AiOs...will maybe take a while longer.
A 'touch' screen Mac device of some sort will arrive at some point.
At the end of the day, all this stuff on an AS family will be the same thing. But with different screen devices. Most of which are already touch anyhow.
I'm happy with my 5k retina iMac in the meantime.
It's quiet (unless pushed hard...)
It can render 3d, do 2D work, video and game. All the things that I'd want it to do. It's great to have an iMac/Mac that can do 3D capably. Really pleased by that. The 5700XT (though a year late and a 'mid range' gpu...) is a mighty fine performer.
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Good news. Imminent...?
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Aye. We've had the leaks. And they add up to the current design language of the iOS devices ala iPhone 12 and iPad with the flat edges. Smaller bezels(!) and no 'teh' chin.
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It's interesting how Fortnight also disappears from Mac and not just iOS.
Granted, this will probably be solved for everyone interested in the game before ARM is well established, but still it will make some people think twice about giving up that easy bootcamp support in their 2000-4000€ computer now that this involves a popular game rather than what happened to Mac gaming with the 64 bit catalina switch. (tons of games lost support, but if bought on steam you could just boot win and play)
Granted, this will probably be solved for everyone interested in the game before ARM is well established, but still it will make some people think twice about giving up that easy bootcamp support in their 2000-4000€ computer now that this involves a popular game rather than what happened to Mac gaming with the 64 bit catalina switch. (tons of games lost support, but if bought on steam you could just boot win and play)
Now SHIPPED. Tracking number provided but not working yet. Apple says Tuesday 9/1, but we'll see what UPS says when it starts moving.
Do you get an email at this status change? I ordered late, was contemplating the nano texture... So up for 4-11 Sep...
No just enough app refreshes and saw it. Email hits when it moves to shipped, pretty quickly after app goes to shipped.
You know, Dr?
When I 1st saw 'Fortnite' intro'd on the WWDC Mac stage, I thought, 'This is B game stuff for kids. Casual gaming. Typical of why no one takes the Mac gaming seriously. It will never be successful.'
Naturally. If I'm going to be proven wrong...it should be spectacularly.
But I don't rate it. It's just FPG kiddie counter strike. Doom meets Nintendo? I dunno. Not for me, I guess.
Epic have made their money. I like their game engine tech'. Impressive stuff. And I rate Unreal Tournament as the best 'of it's type' in terms of run around and kill people with a gun type stuff. (Much better than Quake III thought I.)
As for the 32 bit vs 64 bit argument. I, personally, don't see being a 2nd rate Mac gaming citizen as any great loss. Better to put a bullet in Open GL's head...and slay the 2nd rate ports and the 2nd rate middle ware api.
Buy an Intel iMac is what I say to anyone who is worried about 'conventional' at this moment in time...PC style games.
That way, you're only a Bootcamp away. Though, really? Just buy a PC tower for gaming. They're cheap enough. (I'm probably still going to buy a PC tower for my 2nd workstation at some point. We'll see how Ampere and RDNA2 pan out and the cpu core count race.)
AS will rebirth Mac gaming. And that means a fresh start with Metal. But that day is not today.
Maybe I'm not typical. I'd rather play Monument Valley than Doom Eternal. (Man with constipation grunt carries gun...fires it...and jumps...rather too much...)
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I think the iMac is going to get 'a lot' thinner...
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