Will there ever be a new large iMac (Pro)?

[Azrael9]

The update did indeed fix my white line issue! The 'corner' glitch remains, but I barely ever notice that. Also I ran Novabench after update and my GPU score was 997, way higher than my pre-update 558 score.

Anthony13,

I'm glad it was fixed for you. And a nice performance boost too.

Azrael.
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AMD Navi 21 to feature 80 CUs, Navi 22 - 40 CUs and Navi 23 - 32 CUs - VideoCardz.com

Looks like we have new data on Navi 2X graphics processors. AMD Navi 21 – 80 CUs, Navi 22 – 40 CUs, Navi 23 – 32 CUs The speciations of the Navi 21 and Navi 22 were already ‘confirmed’ by AMD through ROCm 3.8 software update earlier. The data was pieced together by a Redditor […]

videocardz.com

It's on its way?

Azrael.

 

[Azrael9]

Xiaomi launches 82-inch 8K and 4K Master Mi TVs with HDMI 2.1 - VideoCardz.com

Today Xiaomi unveiled two high-end TV featuring HDMI 2.1 connector. Xiaomi Mi TV Master Extreme Edition 82-inch 8K The Master Extreme is a high-end TV model featuring the most cutting edge technology available to the manufacturer. It is not an OLED panel, but the 82-inch TV features a Mini LED...

videocardz.com

TV envy.

Azrael.

 

[Azrael9]

Gigabyte RTX 3090 Gaming OC 24G Review - OC3D

Introduction Hopefully you’ve all recovered from the carpet burns on your jaw after seeing the performance and pricing of the newest Nvidia RTX 3080 Ampere GPU. We barely have, and no sooner have we caught our breath than their new flagship model dropped on our desks, the RTX 3090. After the RTX...

www.overclock3d.net

Quite the premium for 'a little more.'

Azrael.

 

[smoledman]

Does anyone have their hands on a new i9 iMac?

 

[Azrael9]

The new i9 iMac. The one with the .14+++++ hot running cpu?

Azrael.

 

[i'm the mac daddy]

The new i9 iMac. The one with the .14+++++ hot running cpu?

Azrael.

I thought we were getting A14zzz chips for the new Mac with the iPad Pro body? Are you telling me we have to wait another two years on this thread?

 

[pldelisle]

I thought we were getting A14zzz chips for the new Mac with the iPad Pro body? Are you telling me we have to wait another two years on this thread?

???
I'd say 1 year. Q3 or Q4 2021, with AS Mac Pro closing the transition with announcement June 2022 and release Q3-Q4 2022.

But we might see a 24 inch iMac with AS based on 5nm TSMC chip and A14 architecture later this fall or 1H 2021. A slightly higher clocked, more power hungry version of the next iPad Pro chip.

 

[i'm the mac daddy]

???
I'd say 1 year. Q3 or Q4 2021, with AS Mac Pro closing the transition with announcement June 2022 and release Q3-Q4 2022.

But we might see a 24 inch iMac with AS based on 5nm TSMC chip and A14 architecture later this fall or 1H 2021. A slightly higher clocked, more power hungry version of the next iPad Pro chip.

I'd really like to see a 30" iMac with AS and 32-64 cores based on the iPad Pro look and have Apple Pencil, Touchscreen, and the ability to adjust it from almost flat to 120 degrees. I hope we're not waiting two more years.

 

[pldelisle]

I'd really like to see a 30" iMac with AS and 32-64 cores based on the iPad Pro look and have Apple Pencil, Touchscreen, and the ability to adjust it from almost flat to 120 degrees. I hope we're not waiting two more years.

32 cores ? lol. Keep dreaming. If we get 16 in the next 3-4 years it will already be good enough.

 

[Azrael9]

I thought we were getting A14zzz chips for the new Mac with the iPad Pro body? Are you telling me we have to wait another two years on this thread?

I'm not telling you anything.

Tim Cook and Apple have issued their own statement of up to two years for that transition. (Now heading towards 1 and a half years....)

The 1st AS Mac by the 'end of the year.'

...and based on yes, 'AS' (Apple Silicon.)

Whatever that means. They didn't give any specific chip title. Just a general banner 'Apple Silicon.'

The specs of which could be anything.

Only the iPhone and iPad offer clues. Along with the Bloomberg 'leaks' indicating the amount of cores we can expect...and the performance (circa 50-100% better as in 'up to...') we may anticipate.

It can't be any worse than it is now.

Hot. Unoptimised. Deprecated. Inefficient.

And expensive considering the above.

Azrael.
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I'd really like to see a 30" iMac with AS and 32-64 cores based on the iPad Pro look and have Apple Pencil, Touchscreen, and the ability to adjust it from almost flat to 120 degrees. I hope we're not waiting two more years.

Well. Ofc we want that.

Azrael.

 

[Azrael9]

???
I'd say 1 year. Q3 or Q4 2021, with AS Mac Pro closing the transition with announcement June 2022 and release Q3-Q4 2022.

But we might see a 24 inch iMac with AS based on 5nm TSMC chip and A14 architecture later this fall or 1H 2021. A slightly higher clocked, more power hungry version of the next iPad Pro chip.

Yes.

I just hope the iMac AS isn't the thermal prima donna the current Intel iMac is.

Azrael.

 

[pldelisle]

Yes.

I just hope the iMac AS isn't the thermal prima donna the current Intel iMac is.

Azrael.

Would highly doubt. ARM is way more efficient than x86. They don't have to be more performant from Intel that much, only more efficient. And they already are with TSMC 5 nm nodes.

 

[Azrael9]

Would highly doubt. ARM is way more efficient than x86. They don't have to be more performant from Intel that much, only more efficient. And they already are with TSMC 5 nm nodes.

If I could have similar performance without the 'touchy' Intel CPU and thermal issues, I'd swap right now.

Poor Intel CPU thermals, deprecated Open GL performance on last year's mid range gpu...it all seems rather unoptimised.

And Apple decided to not bother that much with a cooling solution for these performance 'monsters.'

Metal. AS. Native apps. New horizons.

It should get much better. More efficient. More optimised. A synergy of hardware and software.

But it underlines the sorry state of things as they are.

Still, Intel aren't the only ones with thermal issues. Check out the new Nvidia 3080. Thermal volcano and that's on .8nm.

Azrael.

 

[pldelisle]

Metal is already very deployed across the OS. Just not the apps. But devs won't have choice soon to comply.

Thermal volcano and that's on .8nm.

It runs hot because they wanted it to run hot. Haven't you seen the number of CUDA cores and tensor cores on this thing ? Ampere is phenomenal, nothing less. They made a big chip, bigger than anything we have ever seen and more powerful and anything previously existing, even in HPC world. This chip redefines the definition of a GPU. It's not a GPU anymore, it's a fully fledged accelerator running its own highly optimized software API. This is the definition of pure symbiose between software and hardware for high performance computing.

Yes, maybe AMD might be more efficient, run cooler, but will never be able to surpass Ampere 3080 and 3090 in term of performance and features.

 

[Azrael9]

Metal is already very deployed across the OS. Just not the apps. But devs won't have choice soon to comply.



It runs hot because they wanted it to run hot. Haven't you seen the number of CUDA cores and tensor cores on this thing ? Ampere is phenomenal, nothing less. They made a big chip, bigger than anything we have ever seen and more powerful and anything previously existing, even in HPC world. This chip redefines the definition of a GPU. It's not a GPU anymore, it's a fully fledged accelerator running its own highly optimized software API. This is the definition of pure symbiose between software and hardware for high performance computing.

Yes, maybe AMD might be more efficient, run cooler, but will never be able to surpass Ampere 3080 and 3090 in term of performance and features.

It will be 'phenomenal' when then can do that on less Watts. And not until.

There's no doubting Ampere's power. But it runs hot, it's inefficient and I think that's poor for .8nm.

The same computing press initially gushing over Ampere were the same ones putting the boot into AMD's Radeon when it was running in the late 200s watts. Fair's fair.

I like the Ray Tracing. And the broadcast tech'.

But they 'just had to win' at? 'Any cost.'

Because they knew RDNA2 was coming. And that if they didn't put it on the 'edge' thermally (like Intel's CPUs...) they were going to lose, perhaps.

Let's hope for? Some semblance of competition. And some pricing rational counter balance.

Manufacturers respond to GeForce RTX 3080/3090 crash to desktop issues - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080/3090 graphics cards face Crash To Desktop (CTD) problems The ongoing problems with GeForce RTX 30 series launch are reaching new grounds. From a very limited stock, sponsored videos ahead of independent reviews to actual hardware issues with the very few cards that were...

videocardz.com

It's back to the old leaf blower days.

Azrael.

 

[Azrael9]

PS. Never say never. AMD were out for the count vs Intel once upon a time.

 

[pldelisle]

Nvidia were never recognized for their efficiency and performance per watt. But, they were always recognized for their "get the work done as fast as possible". That's exactly what Ampere is.

I personally don't worry about thermals for Ampere. Such a GPU is supposed to run hot. It's made to run hot and extensively. My RTX 2080 have been running for months at TJunction (87 degrees) continuously despite incredible air flow (8 Noctua case fan running full blown) and still run perfectly fine. Temperature for such GPUs isn't a problem.

AMD just need to release a more efficient RDNA2 chip. I don't think they can beat a 3090, but 3080 is definitively reachable at maybe lower power consumption. As always, the goal of AMD isn't to release an Nvidia-killer GPU. The goal is always to release a more efficient and lower priced one.

 

[fireguy286]

The tea leaves of the next chapter of Apple are taking shape. The notion of T2 or later are becoming the line in the sand. (been mused for some time, but interesting see it to fruition)

Macs Need T2 Security Chip to Play 4K HDR Netflix in macOS Big Sur

Apple's upcoming macOS Big Sur operating system introduces HDR video support and allows Netflix users to watch content in 4K HDR for the first time. However, it turns out that only Macs with an Apple T2 Security chip are compatible with Ultra HD streaming. Apple Terminal spotted a recently...

forums.macrumors.com

 

[CWallace]

The tea leaves of the next chapter of Apple are taking shape. The notion of T2 or later are becoming the line in the sand. (been mused for some time, but interesting see it to fruition)

Requiring a T2 does improve playback performance since the SoC handles both video decoding and DRM decoding compared to doing it in software like Windows.

 

[fireguy286]

Requiring a T2 does improve playback performance since the SoC handles both video decoding and DRM decoding compared to doing it in software like Windows.

This is debatable at best and not entirely accurate for Windows either. There's good discussion on the actual article for that topic.

 

[CWallace]

This is debatable at best and not entirely accurate for Windows either. There's good discussion on the actual article for that topic.

So the Critics Consensus seems to be that it is an Apple DRM requirement implementing the T2 chip.

 

[pldelisle]

AMD RX 5700 Series Reportedly Enter EOL - No Longer Manufactured

Update, October 7th 2020: AMD has confirmed it has ceased production for the RX 5700, but that RX 5700 XT manufacturing will be ongoing at least until 1Q2021. It's unclear what this means for the company's RDNA2 launch plans; it could be speculated the company will be releasing halo products...

www.techpowerup.com

Well... hope Apple has some stocks of 5700.....

 

[Homy]

AMD RX 5700 Series Reportedly Enter EOL - No Longer Manufactured

Update, October 7th 2020: AMD has confirmed it has ceased production for the RX 5700, but that RX 5700 XT manufacturing will be ongoing at least until 1Q2021. It's unclear what this means for the company's RDNA2 launch plans; it could be speculated the company will be releasing halo products...

www.techpowerup.com

Well... hope Apple has some stocks of 5700.....

It says that not even custom GPUs are going to be produced. It can only mean that Apple is going to upgrade iMac with Radeon 6000 or introduce the first AS iMac soon. Feel bad for those who have bought 5700 XT seeing it being replaced so soon.

 

[filmak]

It says that not even custom GPUs are going to be produced. It can only mean that Apple is going to upgrade iMac with Radeon 6000 or introduce the first AS iMac soon. Feel bad for those who have bought 5700 XT seeing it being replaced so soon.

Apple may have already the estimated needed parts in stock?

 

[Homy]

Apple may have already the estimated needed parts in stock?

Yes, but I wonder how long they will last.