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Will there ever be a new large iMac (Pro)?

When do you expect an iMac redesign?

  • 4rd quarter 2019

    Votes: 34 4.1%

  • 1st quarter 2020

    Votes: 23 2.8%

  • 2nd quarter 2020

    Votes: 119 14.5%

  • 3rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 131 15.9%

  • 4rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 172 20.9%

  • 2021 or later

    Votes: 343 41.7%
  • Total voters
    822
  • Poll closed .
theSeb

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Freida said:
nonsense! Apple is not going to AMD for just 1 generation of a computer. Apple is sticking to Intel for now and then goes straight to AS. Anyone who thinks that AMD is still in the cards is either totally naive or just plain idiot!

If Apple was going to AMD then they would have done so ages ago. Not when a transition is announced and on the way. 1.5 years left till full transition. AMD is out, simple as that.
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Not yet, I got a test model to determine what I need exactly but then because of the wait time I didn't order it. Mainly because we are buying a flat so because of the downpayment I decided to wait. Also want to see the november AS event also now. But its on the xmas list :D :D :D

The_Lord_of_Apple said:
btw did you get your new iMac?
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CWallace

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Agreed - no way Apple would move the iMac Pro to AMD - especially as the 16-core Ryzen 5950x benchmarks better than the 16-core Xeon W-3245 in the Mac Pro.
 
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ricardobayes

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I think an updated 21 (24?) iMac is imminent. At least my local apple store ships a smaller iMac if you order it today (25 Oct) on 1 December.
 
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I would love to think that but iMac would be a surprise to me. I think we will see some form of laptop first and maybe mini. Those 2 products are perfect for the transition first as they, by default, don't have massive GPU performance so it will be easy to beat the current models. The DTK was awesome and honestly I would love to get that (with A14M variant or however they will call). On the other hand, Intel transition started with iMac so there is still a possibility.
To me though, if iMac is updated this year, it will be 'one more thing' though. Also, it would be a complete redesign so how would that look that 21/24 will get shiny new everything whilst 27 got the old stuff 2-3 months before? Realistically, I feel there will be no AS iMac this year and it will all happen in March/April. That is my educated guess :)
Few weeks left to find out :)

ricardobayes said:
I think an updated 21 (24?) iMac is imminent. At least my local apple store ships a smaller iMac if you order it today (25 Oct) on 1 December.
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CWallace

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To be fair, the 21.5" iMac uses an Intel iGPU so a new ASi model would not have much of a bar to hurdle in terms of graphics performance.
 
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Yeah, I know and it would make sense in some way but wouldn't it be better to be updated with 27" next spring with redesign? Although I would love to see it next month as it gives us a good glimpse on whats coming :)


CWallace said:
To be fair, the 21.5" iMac uses an Intel iGPU so a new ASi model would not have much of a bar to hurdle in terms of graphics performance.
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magbarn said:
That's mostly relevant for laptops & irrelevant for the iMac we're talking about, yet the MBP 16's ram type is available in sodimm's. There's also DDR4 4000 speed sodimms which match or exceed LPDDR4 at this time.
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Not sure who to believe right now.
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Acidanthera is Opencore, so it's likely just a hackintosh, probably a hackintosh that's faster than a MacPro
 
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CWallace said:
Unless it is the iMac Pro, I don't see it.

Apple could have updated the 21.5" model alongside the 27", but did not. And I don't see Apple doing one more refresh of the 27" with Rocket Lake since it offers to little over the current Comet Lake model.
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like the standard iMac (around June) whose shipping dates got pushed out further and further, it seems iMac Pro's shipping date stretches out to early to mid December if you are ordering from Australia.
 
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Well, you are probably right but I hope not. If the fact that AMD stopped making 5700XT etc. then I would hope 6XXX series will show up in iMacs soon as an option. (Only based on the article about the cease of production)

Also, iMac Pro could see one more refresh before they all go AS. Its all in the air now but Kuo mentioned miniLED etc. so it makes sense to get one more iteration of iMac Pro as I doubt Apple can match the performance right of the bat.

I guess the Nov 17th event will give us better idea what is happening are right now its all super messy.

I'm waiting till that event to see which way to take. Still haven't gotten the iMac :D :D :D


CWallace said:
AMD claims it will now go head-to-head with the 3090 and 3080. So while I now believe the next iMac Pro will be an ASi model so we won't see them there, it bodes well for the Mac Pro add-on cards.
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CWallace said:
AMD claims it will now go head-to-head with the 3090 and 3080. So while I now believe the next iMac Pro will be an ASi model so we won't see them there, it bodes well for the Mac Pro add-on cards.
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I wouldn't bet on the ASi iMac Pro (of something of that class with different name) not being able to use a discrete GPU from a 3rd party. What AMD did with RDNA2 was mostly design on top of the same process. If RDNA3 is mostly a shrink of what they have here, then Apple probably isn't going to catch up at all. So would Apple bring a iMac Pro to market that essentially went backwards competitively? Probably not. As a relatively low volume product shouldn't be trying to limit it even more.

AMD is using shared memory mapping between CPU and GPU to boost performance here ( at least between Ryzen 5000 series , new logic boards , and these new GPUs packages ). That covers an Apple performance source for Apple GPUs. Large caches to improve GPU IPC rate . Covered ... checked. Metal isn't out in front of DX12 with performance APIs.


[ Similar with Nvidia also. Put their stuff on 5nm in 1-2 years and Apple is relative to their performance how? Apple leapfrogging over both Nvidia and AMD over the next couple of years how? Neither one of those two are sitting still. ]
 
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Freida said:
Well, you are probably right but I hope not. If the fact that AMD stopped making 5700XT etc. then I would hope 6XXX series will show up in iMacs soon as an option. (Only based on the article about the cease of production)
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By the way, yes. After all, this already happened with the advent of the 5600 option in the MacBook Pro. Additional modules for Mac Pro are a matter of course.
 
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Either way we’ll get the answer to the original question posed in this thread.

I think Freida is right and we won‘t see anything today. Everything is pointing to a MacBook Air and MacBook Pro being the only announcements :(
 
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