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Will there ever be a new large iMac (Pro)?
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I don’t think it would be updated till new model is presented. Near zero chances for spec bump. That’s why I brought a 2020 model few weeks ago.
I cannot agree. iMac is still an excellent and ready-made all-in-one solution. The iMac Pro, which has gone from us, had a cool sound and a cool display in a laconic design for a bargain price. Buying everything separately will be more expensive and more difficult.And it will be the perfect machine for most of us who need more power than iMac and if the 50% price reduction is true then it could be the new perfect machine for a tons of users.
I am personally super excited about the prospect of Mac Pro Mini or Mac Mini Pro (or both)
The only thing we need to go with it is proper Apple Cinema Display.
Win win for everyone
Latest video rumors claim that Apple intends the M1X iMac to be priced similar to the Intel iMac 5K - so starting around $1999. Said rumor claims Apple does not want to make it an "iMac Pro" with a high starting price.
Don’t think it’s possible to maintain old prices if iMac raise its monitor to 30’’
PS And heck, video rumors; it’s just a few youtubes who record their totally useless videos? Zero trust, I don’t recommend to anybody watch any of it. It’s just a chewing gum for our brains, like tik-tok or Instagram — zero information, just wasting time.
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Hence why the rumor states it will be 28-29" at 5K or 5.5K and not the 32" 6K display many of us have been presuming for the past year.
At this point, I would not be surprised if it is a 27" 5K MiniLED display like was first rumored back in March 2020.
In general I agree, but this last one had some solid thinking behind it with logical conjectures and not just random fanboyism so even if it is all wrong, they at least made a good argument.
They also claim their information is from "inside sources", but I would expect those same sources would be leaking to Gurman/Bloomberg and MCK and they have not said nothing that corroborates it.
I wouldn't be surprised if all it has is the same 27" 5k regular imac screen that we already have. This 30", or even mini led dream is wishfull thinking, and that usually doesn't pan out.for the past year.
At this point, I would not be surprised if it is a 27" 5K MiniLED display like was first rumored back in March 2020.
My thought is yes and no. They will be priced similarly but will drop the lower spec and priced models. I used to think they would start at 16/512GB for ~$2299 or maybe even $2499 if it was 30-32 in, but now thinking they will still have a 8/512GB model at $1999 and they will be ~28.5 in.
Sigh. Now that I've come to the conclusion that the larger iMac won't be coming until 2022 (my bet is either a Spring event or WWDC) I'll have to postpone my setup redesign.
I can't wait for the day when I can completely clear off and clean my desk area. I'm going to set up the iMac from scratch for the mental satisfaction of cleaning the "cruft" that may or may not be there and will purchase a few of the Samsung QVO 8TB SSD for Time Machine and media storage to mount on the back of the stand.
I bought an M1 Mac mini for my mother and was doing some work on it the other day and it was noticeably faster than my iMac at some basic tasks which definitely makes me a bit envious.
I can't wait for the day when I can completely clear off and clean my desk area. I'm going to set up the iMac from scratch for the mental satisfaction of cleaning the "cruft" that may or may not be there and will purchase a few of the Samsung QVO 8TB SSD for Time Machine and media storage to mount on the back of the stand.
I bought an M1 Mac mini for my mother and was doing some work on it the other day and it was noticeably faster than my iMac at some basic tasks which definitely makes me a bit envious.
At the rate UPS is taking to get my 2020 iMac 5K to me, the "M1X" model might launch first.
Just a thought... Will there be two sizes of the unreleased larger iMac?
Apologies if this has come up in this thread before (I haven't read all 429 pages. We've been waiting for a while!). But there are now two sizes of iPhone Pro, two sizes of iPad Pro, two sizes of MacBook Pro (continuing on with the 14 & 16-inch M1X), why not two sizes of iMac Pro? The 24-inch iMac is the colourful, happy, consumer machine, just as the MacBook Air may transition into a colourful, happy, 12 or 13-inch consumer machine. Leaving the unreleased iMacs and MacBook Pros to be the more austere prosumer machines.
If Apple introduces a 30 or 32-inch iMac Pro, that leaves a pretty big size and price gap between it and the 24-inch M1s. Why not fill that space with a 28-inch iMac Pro? It could effectively adopt the same (rumoured) strategy as the 14 & 16-inch MacBook Pros in that both machines would offer similar internal specifications, but differ most significantly in their screen size. Plus, a 28-inch machine would at least make a clear break from the venerable 27-inch machines. Apple seems to be heading in the direction of expanding their product lineups (eg. iPhone 12s & 13s), not simplifying them. Also, there are a lot of people for whom a 32-inch screen (or a 30-inch) screen would be too big, but a 24-inch screen too small, so I don't think the whole "it's a desktop; size difference doesn't matter as much as a mobile device" is a serious factor here.
Anyway, as I said, just a thought. Curious to know what you think.
Apologies if this has come up in this thread before (I haven't read all 429 pages. We've been waiting for a while!). But there are now two sizes of iPhone Pro, two sizes of iPad Pro, two sizes of MacBook Pro (continuing on with the 14 & 16-inch M1X), why not two sizes of iMac Pro? The 24-inch iMac is the colourful, happy, consumer machine, just as the MacBook Air may transition into a colourful, happy, 12 or 13-inch consumer machine. Leaving the unreleased iMacs and MacBook Pros to be the more austere prosumer machines.
If Apple introduces a 30 or 32-inch iMac Pro, that leaves a pretty big size and price gap between it and the 24-inch M1s. Why not fill that space with a 28-inch iMac Pro? It could effectively adopt the same (rumoured) strategy as the 14 & 16-inch MacBook Pros in that both machines would offer similar internal specifications, but differ most significantly in their screen size. Plus, a 28-inch machine would at least make a clear break from the venerable 27-inch machines. Apple seems to be heading in the direction of expanding their product lineups (eg. iPhone 12s & 13s), not simplifying them. Also, there are a lot of people for whom a 32-inch screen (or a 30-inch) screen would be too big, but a 24-inch screen too small, so I don't think the whole "it's a desktop; size difference doesn't matter as much as a mobile device" is a serious factor here.
Anyway, as I said, just a thought. Curious to know what you think.
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The previous iMacs had a 6" differential so I don't think we'll see a third model size. I expect the same pricing differential as well. And I expect Apple might offer a lower core low end 30" model in order to fill the gap.
The 24" is really 23.5"...and some rumours have suggested the larger iMac to be actually 29.5" and rounded up to 30" for marketing.
I fully expect there will be only one screen size.
Rumors have been all over the map on what size it will be, though I am now thinking 27-29" is more likely than 30-32".
I agree partly. I think a 27 inch with the same SoC as MBP and a larger iMac Pro with the same SoC as the MP would cover all iMac configurations quite well. For the Pro segment, I still think an Apple branded screen for 1500 $ plus a "Mac Mini Pro" is a more versatile combination than an iMac Pro.
You know, this is one of the reasons why I think there will be two sizes. There's been a lot of noise regarding the screen size, which might be the result of Apple actually playing around with multiple iterations of two different sizes.
Perhaps, but we haven't had three sizes of iMac since the PowerPC days and one of the more recent rumors is that Apple does not want to create an "iMac Pro" which would be the obvious candidate for a 32" display that is not quite XDR class, but still fancy.
There are also the rumors of a new Apple Thunderbolt Display coming with the new larger iMac and I do not see Apple releasing a 32" ATD at a price 1/3rd that of the Pro XDR as it would likely eat much of the XDR's market (I expect the plurality of people buying it do not need the XDR's capabilities).
Hence why I think we will see only one new iMac at 27-29" with a companion ATD using the same panel.
and the new external display will be the same. this will allow apple to keep the standalone display in the $1200 range IMO.
I doubt we will see 2 sizes. Maybe with Intel it would still make sense but not with AS.
There really would be no reason to have an extra screen size as more and more people will shift their setup to maybe the Mac Mini (pro) or the Mac Pro Mini with standalone display.
In the past the big iMac was very good deal and made sense for tons of people but a lot of them didn't want to be tied to AiO system where you can't just update the computer but have to get new whole system again.
I'm waiting for the updated big iMac since last year as M1 convinced me to wait but at the same time I'm actually open to not get AiO but get the Mini + display and I expect a lot of people are in the same boat. The only thing that Apple needs to do is to release Apple Display that is not outrageously expensive for average Joe and call it a day.
People will have a choice but also will options which will benefit everyone. Doing AiO systems in different screen sizes is not really the right way. iMac Pro was stop gap (and now gone) and we won't see that again. Maybe the bigger iMac will be called 'Pro' again but the context will change.
AS changed the game and will allow Apple to simplify a lot of things.
If Fall event brings Mac Mini with M1X (or however they call it) and they surprise us with standalone display => instant buy.
If not then I'll just have to wait till the Spring event to see and decide then. Either way, there won't be 3 sizes of iMac. It just wouldn't make sense anymore.
There really would be no reason to have an extra screen size as more and more people will shift their setup to maybe the Mac Mini (pro) or the Mac Pro Mini with standalone display.
In the past the big iMac was very good deal and made sense for tons of people but a lot of them didn't want to be tied to AiO system where you can't just update the computer but have to get new whole system again.
I'm waiting for the updated big iMac since last year as M1 convinced me to wait but at the same time I'm actually open to not get AiO but get the Mini + display and I expect a lot of people are in the same boat. The only thing that Apple needs to do is to release Apple Display that is not outrageously expensive for average Joe and call it a day.
People will have a choice but also will options which will benefit everyone. Doing AiO systems in different screen sizes is not really the right way. iMac Pro was stop gap (and now gone) and we won't see that again. Maybe the bigger iMac will be called 'Pro' again but the context will change.
AS changed the game and will allow Apple to simplify a lot of things.
If Fall event brings Mac Mini with M1X (or however they call it) and they surprise us with standalone display => instant buy.
If not then I'll just have to wait till the Spring event to see and decide then. Either way, there won't be 3 sizes of iMac. It just wouldn't make sense anymore.
I wonder, if we are getting M1X MBP this month and one would assume that they will be powerful enough for the 27" iMac, is there any logical reason why we wouldn't get the bigger iMac updated too? The only reason that comes to my mind is if the design is different to the currect 24" but if the design is the same and its just bigger and the chip is out too then there really isn't much that would hold us till spring, is there?
So, realistically, it will be purely for marketing purposes to spread it out rather than anything technical, right?
Also, I feel that if there is a display that will come from Apple that is more reasonably priced than that should be revealed at the same time as the updated mini as otherwise there would be no point. Display is something people keep for a very very long time so its only logical to introduce it with a device that actually needs it the most (Mac Mini).
What do you guys think?
So, realistically, it will be purely for marketing purposes to spread it out rather than anything technical, right?
Also, I feel that if there is a display that will come from Apple that is more reasonably priced than that should be revealed at the same time as the updated mini as otherwise there would be no point. Display is something people keep for a very very long time so its only logical to introduce it with a device that actually needs it the most (Mac Mini).
What do you guys think?