16k screens... :O
I'd settle for 6k on the iMac.
We've had the 5k for quite a while now...
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Will there ever be a new large iMac (Pro)?
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16k screens... :O
I'd settle for 6k on the iMac.
We've had the 5k for quite a while now...
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'Premature specification.'
Azrael.
I'm more interested in vertical height, which is my greater constraint. I suspect most people have to scroll vertically more often than horizontally (websites, word processing, coding, etc.), so there would be a benefit for many. I'd love the 3:2 ratio of the Microsoft Surface Studio 2, but 16:10 has more chance as this has been used on many Apple screens, and is still used on all their laptops. 30" 16:10 5120x3200 comes to mind as a retina version of the biggest Cinema Display (I may already have mentioned it in this thread, I certainly have on Mac Rumors). 16:10 was on my 24" iMac, part of why I loved it so much.
hypothetically, if the delay with 27" is really due to the panels then that means that if the new ones are ready then there will be no bigger screen than 27" so maybe not even redesign (although that is not implied).
I sincerely hope that the delay is not panel shortage but the fact that the 27 will get redesigned and bumped to 29-32 or so and the 21 is ok because it will be budget option. (no redesign there).
24 will be introduced so now we will have 21" budget, 24 & ±30 as mid and high option. All classes and customers happy and all good. That would be amazing
Air, mid, high
Makes sense to me.
I'd like to see Apple return to the UK's historical iMac price points of the 'Bondi' iMac era. Where you could get an iMac from £595 (£565?), £799 and £999. Far better value than the mini, historically. You get a screen, k/b, mouse, great design, cpu power and graphics for less than £1k. They weren't the cheapest, but they were really going for it, market and mindshare....and fighting for their survival. Tellingly.
21 inch. £599 inc VAT.
24 inch. £799 inc VAT.
30 inch. £1500 inc VAT.
(Entry model starting prices.)
Redesign? To design or not to design. In the last several years, Apple has come under increasing pressure from PC computer makers in terms of M$ and HP and even Dell (yes, I know...) who are showing that progressive design (Surface 2 is gorgeous), bang for buck (HP AiO...they did a good job on that...with great value specs and performance and not sacrificing spec for thinness...) and Dell (teh very slender bezels...and monitors that can rotate to portrait...)
The Mac Pro display offered a tantalising olive branch of promise of 'what could be' coming for the iMac Pro/iMac. The iMac used to be the flagship of innovative design AND value. Now? It's not really either. Just a staid evolutionary example of tired design with mediocre specs at a pricey point.
The iMac is all about the screen. So 32 inches of dream worthy 6k resolution that could rotate to portrait would have me at 'Hello.' With that space and thickness you can get 'iMac Pro' serious about specs...with superior cooling.
If good value £2k and 'I have to saw someone's arm off for it' £3k uber value HP AiO style specs land? It will be a return to greatness.
A specced bump 27 incher isn't going to cut it.
Both the Mac Pro and Mac Pro display show that Apple isn't beaten yet...on desktops.
It's time to kick Az.
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True. Vertical height is important. I loved my iMac 24 incher.
That said, give me that 32 inch 6k iMac display...and the ability to turn it to portrait.
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128 gig? More SSD than the Fusion drive iMac?
*refreshes.
Azrael.
PS. I take it you've all seen this iMac concept model?
Complete guide to new 24in iMac for 2021
Apple has launched a new iMac with a new design, larger 4.5K display, M1 chip and a choice of seven colours. Here's what you need to know.
www.macworld.co.uk
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Hell yeah !!! Would be life for developers.
Yeah, pldelisle,
I never got that. Apple (with the i-Lamp) looked like it was heading to ultimately adjustability in height of display. I just was itching to turn the lamp into portrait model.
For a creative/programmer/dtp (see piece of A4 paper/letter size...design...) platform, I never understand why Apple didn't innovate this with their displays and iMac. (The mac pro display has this now...) But Dell monitors and BenQ monitors have had this for years.
An artist or programmer would love portrait mode, eh?
Azrael.
My finger hurts from refreshing this page all day! Too late in the day now for an announcement. Will be back at the hype machine tomorrow! lol
Considering getting a new i9 iMac vs. waiting for a refresh. Sorry if this has been covered already in detail, but does anyone know how much performance improvements the new intel chips would bring to the table? Are there other features expected that would justify waiting?
It really seems to me that Apple may be positioning the new micro led tech for the imac pro, to help distance it, and just bumping the imac in the meantime. But I'd imagine anything is possible at this point. Sooner or later, the imac will likely get a makeover as most of us hope, just not sure if it will be this year and certainly not as a silent update. Maybe Apple will surprise us though.
So it was announced today that Apple is investing heavily in a new Taiwan production facility for mini-LED and micro-LED displays set to open later this year.
And today's Mac-related rumor is that the 14.1" MacBook Pro is delayed until 2021 and this model is rumored to have a mini-LED display. There were reports earlier that Apple would be late in shipping new products (including a 14" MBP, 16" MBP and 27" iMP) with mini-LED displays so perhaps this new facility will be producing them when it comes online.
As for the non-Pro iMac, this likely means nothing as that model was not rumored to (yet) get a mini-LED display. So while it now seems possible, if not probable, the iMac Pro will be delayed into 2021, Apple could still ship iMacs with current 4K/5K displays any day now.
And today's Mac-related rumor is that the 14.1" MacBook Pro is delayed until 2021 and this model is rumored to have a mini-LED display. There were reports earlier that Apple would be late in shipping new products (including a 14" MBP, 16" MBP and 27" iMP) with mini-LED displays so perhaps this new facility will be producing them when it comes online.
As for the non-Pro iMac, this likely means nothing as that model was not rumored to (yet) get a mini-LED display. So while it now seems possible, if not probable, the iMac Pro will be delayed into 2021, Apple could still ship iMacs with current 4K/5K displays any day now.
A bunch of 27" iMacs just hit the refurb store again. According to my email 19 new iMacs came in.
Edit: Counted it myself and 24x 27" iMacs, 1x 21" 4K, 1x 21.5" base model.
Edit: Counted it myself and 24x 27" iMacs, 1x 21" 4K, 1x 21.5" base model.
Honestly, buying a matter of weeks before WWDC is madness.
Even if it's just a speed bump, you'll possibly get double the memory and SSD for your money, saving hundreds.
Yeah. Apple will happily sell refurbs to us whilst we're waiting.
There's ...
Refurbished Mac - iMac Pro
Buy a refurbished Mac from the Official UK Apple Store today. Buy online and get free shipping on selected items.
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£4159. Still Pricey.
For a 3 year old iMac Pro spec. About 20% discount.
I think the new iMac will probably represent far better value than that. You can spec an iMac 2019 out for about £3600 that shaves a further £550-ish off the price and not be a refurb but you don't get the iMac Pro's cooling.
I haven't heard of the 2019 iMacs running hot though. The online reviews indicated they were cool running with little fan noise.
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Patience. Aye. I know it's difficult for guys not to pull the trigger...but slow and steady wins the day.
Even with the later than usual WWDC...it means we're only a month-ish away from finding out. And other rumours are saying it's going to be sooner than that.
You're right. Even with a mere speed spec bump it's going to offer decent value ie an effective price cut. Saving, as you say, hundreds if the Macbook 13 inch warm over is anything to go by. Going from Fusion to all SSD will be significant as will 10 core options and improved GPU.
Azrael.
If that's a real possiblity I'll definetly wait. Thanks for the input.
The rumours are picking up re: imminent. The rumours have been swirling for a while. It's the only Mac Apple haven't updated now.
The Macbooks and Mini have had their updates. So the iMac is the only mainstream Mac we're waiting on.
At the least it will save you money.
As a real bonus...if the design is new it could be a very substantial update.
That's worth waiting several weeks for. I'm Mac-less. But I'm waiting.
Azrael.
If events develop in such a scenario, I think that many will wait until the 21st year. Too many big changes will be in 2021.
Most people want a redesign or larger display. And the increase in power for many who are sitting on the 2017/19 models will not be very noticeable.
Damn straight, MacFather.
The transformation from the Bondi iMac to the Alu iMac is dramatic. That's what happens when you have a product guy and not a 'chain supply' guy in charge. (The 'Bondi' is still lust worthy.)
True about pictures and those 'thousand' words.
"FATHER..!" (Superman II voice...)
Azrael.
The transformation from the Bondi iMac to the Alu iMac is dramatic. That's what happens when you have a product guy and not a 'chain supply' guy in charge. (The 'Bondi' is still lust worthy.)
True about pictures and those 'thousand' words.
"FATHER..!" (Superman II voice...)
Azrael.
It's pretty clear that Jony Ive was running the design show as much under Tim as he was under Steve. Steve might have been able to tell Jonny "no" more than Tim was, but Ive's (presumed) obsession with "always thinner" was as strong under Steve as it was with Tim and this is why we got things like the butterfly keyboard and iMacs and MacBooks that could not handle the heat Intel's busted-arse CPUs were putting out.
Now that Ive is gone, the MacBooks are getting thicker (as are the switches under the keyboards), the iPads are thicker, the iPhones are rumored to get thicker and maybe the iMac will also get thicker so it can cool those hot CPUs better and Apple can put in a half-way decent webcam.
Am I wrong on this or the iMac is the only Apple product that is shrouded in such mystery and silence from Apple's part regarding, bump spec updates, redesigns etc? Why be so open about iPad, macbooks and iPhone updates and redesigns months before, but no word on iMacs up to the last minute? At least that is the impression I get, but maybe Im wrong. I mean, does Apple actually benefit from the surrounding mystery of new releases in the way that the customers will going to buy their existing models and then will sell them to buy the new stuff? Just trying to understand.
There is no difference between iMac and other models.
Ahh, so SJ developed the LED screen, did he? CRT to LED is the enabling technology here and what has happened on the tech front since 2012? Nothing as transforming affecting the form of computer. Should be the SSD instead of a spinning disk in that case. By the way, you should have compared it to the iMP that arrived in 2017. iMP is a tech wonder and still competes with the new MP some way of the road in terms of performance.
If it ain't broken don't fix it. Now it is time to fix it as there has been an increasing focus on the fashion of small bezels and Intel inability to develop cool running processors. Slim the bezels and the chin sightly for cosmetics and give it iMP cooling for harbouring the increasingly power consuming components and it will work for another five years.
I do not buy an iMac now as the inside is not up to date, not because the bezels are a bit thick. Would I like a new radical design? Sure I often like new ideas but the design is secondary, to get iMP cooling in the iMac is much more important.
You are more than welcome to suggest an alternative design - for an iMac, not a i9 based tower or an hackintosh.
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The iMac is just not intersting for anyone that makes noise in the tech sphere and hence there are no leakers. The iMac is for people with low end computing needs and hence we are considered boring.
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I would LOVE a 16x10 display, it's so unfortunate that aspect ratio seems to have been fased out. Would be awesome if the added pixels to make it 6k came from the additional height. Not holding my breath though.
I believe the real reason is that the general Apple-news-following public don't really care about Macs, in general, and Mac desktops, in particular. So the folks who score the leaks are not interrogating their sources for iMac information.
Yes, I need a new iMac. I like that concept of the patent redesign, but not sold on that much glass.