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When do you expect an iMac redesign?

  • 4rd quarter 2019

    Votes: 34 4.1%
  • 1st quarter 2020

    Votes: 23 2.8%
  • 2nd quarter 2020

    Votes: 119 14.5%
  • 3rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 131 15.9%
  • 4rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 172 20.9%
  • 2021 or later

    Votes: 343 41.7%

  • Total voters
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ridgero

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It has already been discussed (here I think) that the most likely reason is the shortage of those 5k panels from LG. Thats why it slipped. I would love new and awesome 27" but I feel WWDC is more likely candidate unless Apple really wants to embrace this new format of digital time :)

That doesn’t make sense, because the iMac Pro delivery times are completely fine, even the weirdest CTO builds.
 
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Voyageur

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Honestly, I did not understand at all why you think that the new iMac should be now any day? Rumors are always just rumors, but the WWDC is just around the corner and showing the redesign (if it happens) is very concise there. In addition, if you remember, the WWDC invitation card directly says "Hello" as in the original in 1984. This is very simple, but the hint is just concrete.
 

ridgero

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Honestly, I did not understand at all why you think that the new iMac should be now any day? Rumors are always just rumors, but the WWDC is just around the corner and showing the redesign (if it happens) is very concise there. In addition, if you remember, the WWDC invitation card directly says "Hello" as in the original in 1984. This is very simple, but the hint is just concrete.

1984 First Macintosh says Hello
1998 was the first introduction of iMac
2016 “Hello“ was used again, OSX was renamed to macOS
2020: First ARM based Mac says Hello?
 
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gusping

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iPad + Macbook Air: Wednesday
iPhone SE: Wednesday
Macbook Pro: Monday

I think the new iMac will come tomorrow, maybe today. If not than I don't know what Apple's waiting for if they're ready to ship. Sounds weird to me to wait 6 weeks with a ready to ship product only for them to announce it on WWDC.
I agree, it’s either now or at WWDC. Lets hope it is the former of those... If they are ready, sitting on them for another 6 weeks doesn’t make sense, unless.... they are a huge redesign that Apple is extremely proud of, and therefore worth dpending stage time on.
 

Dave245

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I agree, it’s either now or at WWDC. Lets hope it is the former of those... If they are ready, sitting on them for another 6 weeks doesn’t make sense, unless.... they are a huge redesign that Apple is extremely proud of, and therefore worth dpending stage time on.

According to Mark Gurman, there is a substantial update to the iMac coming. Jon Prosser then said that the iMacs are ready to ship and could come any day.
If there is a redesign that Apple want to talk about, I think it will be at the WWDC keynote.
 
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mindquest

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I am here to obsess about this all day, let the F5 refresh begin! Till I am disappointed at about noon because there is no announcement! lol

 
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Manfredi

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1984 First Macintosh says Hello
1998 was the first introduction of iMac
2016 “Hello“ was used again, OSX was renamed to macOS
2020: First ARM based Mac says Hello?
would be great but.... don't you think could be a bit early to introduce an iMac ARM baed...?? iMac is a semipro machine in some case... so i don't know if apple has already develop and tested ARM so powerfull to install in an iMac instead on a Macbook air for example.... i don't know...
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If it's before WWDC, it's 100% a spec bump. If it's at WWDC we have a chance at something more substantial.
who knows.... 2020 WWDC will not be as the previous WWDC , visibility and interest will be less due to COVID, alsfo the format will be different.... maybe theuy prefer introduce it in a different way....
 
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NewUsername

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Well, the iMac was also the first to get an Intel processor (together with the MacBook Pro), which was also a surprise at that time.

The MacBook Air would be the obvious candidate for an ARM processor, but in theory I could see them going for the iMac to prove ARM processors are as serious as Intel processors.
 

Patchwork

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Even if the new iMac comes out around WWDC, I’m not sure Apple will do a big presentation rather than just a press release. The reason for this is based on the launch of the 16 inch MacBook Pro last November. This was quite a big redesign of the 15 inch MacBook Pro but was only announced with a press release rather than being included in an event. While I’ve no idea what the sales are like for the larger MacBook Pro, I wouldn't be surprised if it out sold the iMac, so woukd expect the same approach. Of course this does assume that Apple doesn’t do something completely different like announcing IMacs will become Arm based.
 

AlexGraphicD

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The thing that bugs me is that, what are the chances that Apple would give a total redesign to the iMac if in a year or two years ahead they are planning an ARM based iMac. Then again, can ARM be this year's redesign? Is it possible it could be so soon?
 

NewUsername

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The thing that bugs me is that, what are the chances that Apple would give a total redesign to the iMac if in a year or two years ahead they are planning an ARM based iMac. Then again, can ARM be this year's redesign? Is it possible it could be so soon?
Actually, the switch to Intel didn't lead to redesigns; the Intel Macs looked exactly the same as the PowerPC Macs. But a more radical redesign would be more logical in the case of a switch to ARM of course.

Personally, I don't expect a radical redesign, probably just smaller bezels and a slightly larger screen as with the 16" MacBook Pro. But who knows?
 
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pldelisle

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The thing that bugs me is that, what are the chances that Apple would give a total redesign to the iMac if in a year or two years ahead they are planning an ARM based iMac. Then again, can ARM be this year's redesign? Is it possible it could be so soon?

ARM not coming this year. Apple need to scale out power consumption to make more powerful, higher clocked chips with more cores.

There is a lot less risk to get a new design prior platform change. More things can go bad when doing both at the same time.

I personally think it's going to be at WWDC. I hope, because this would likely mean new design.
 
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ridgero

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would be great but.... don't you think could be a bit early to introduce an iMac ARM baed...?? iMac is a semipro machine in some case... so i don't know if apple has already develop and tested ARM so powerfull to install in an iMac instead on a Macbook air for example.... i don't know...
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who knows.... 2020 WWDC will not be as the previous WWDC , visibility and interest will be less due to COVID, alsfo the format will be different.... maybe theuy prefer introduce it in a different way....

I don‘t refer it to the iMac.

The picture shows Laptops + Hello
 

Mikael H

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The thing that bugs me is that, what are the chances that Apple would give a total redesign to the iMac if in a year or two years ahead they are planning an ARM based iMac. Then again, can ARM be this year's redesign? Is it possible it could be so soon?
An internal design with higher thermal headroom benefits whatever you'd like to put in the box.
 
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Moonjumper

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It look nice, especially from the front. However, I think the current form has better thermals because it seem to be thicker in the center. Thick edges do little in terms of airflow around a a centrally placed CPU/GPU. Well you could fit some really good speakers in these edges for stereo sound like the iPad Pro. Add a really good camera and and some really good microphones and you have a nice home "studio" for video conferencing, producing tutorial and similar tasks.

...and other day of waiting has just started. I hope the waiting time will not be as long as for the new MP...
As mentioned in the thread about the concept, it is actually thicker at the centre, it just doesn’t look it because the bulge is less aggressive because it starts further back. It also has 50% more volume inside, plus there is room for larger vents underneath. It is the current design that has too many thermal constraints. This should improve on it, but would it be enough?
 

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Moonjumper

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ARM not coming this year. Apple need to scale out power consumption to make more powerful, higher clocked chips with more cores.

There is a lot less risk to get a new design prior platform change. More things can go bad when doing both at the same time.

I personally think it's going to be at WWDC. I hope, because this would likely mean new design.

As you day, get the design working right, then introduce the new chip platform. There is also another reason for introducing new designs now ahead of a change to Arm: To show the swap to Arm is not a compromise on performance. If it performs just as well in an identical device it gets around anyone thinking Arm chips are for mobile only.

I think it is quite likely that Arm will be introduced at WWDC this year so that developers have time to ports their apps ahead of a public release early next year. It is almost certain that Apple have been working on Arm chips designed for higher computer power and thermal envelopes for a number of years, most probably since before they started referring to their mobile chips as "desktop class" in keynotes.

However, I don't think the iMac will be one of the first to swap to Arm as it is often used by businesses, and it will likely be business software that takes longer to get ported. Therefore it will be the more consumer orientated machines first such as the MacBook Air, or according to rumours, a return of the 12" MacBook.
 

Azrael9

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Honestly any design change will hit the iMac Pro first then to the regular iMac later. I would say the iMac Pro will look like the xdr monitor while the normal iMac would maybe get smaller bezels and the original iMac Pro’s cooling setup

The iMac sells way more. It's Apple's 'mainstream' desktop flagship. The iMac Pro got the cooling and space grey, basically. I don't see them as bank breaking to add to the standard iMac.

Even the Mini has dark grey on it now.

There's no reason for the design case to to hit the iMac Pro 1st when the iMac sells way more...and the new design can be introduced on both.

Sure, we can't rule out Apple doing the Pro monitor design on the iMac Pro and a bezel trim on the regular iMac...but the to be consistent with recent design moves. The iMac will need a new dark grey colour and probably a bezel trim.

To me, I only see consolidation of the iMac Pro and iMac into...? The iMac Pro. Priced at £1700-£3500.

It allows for ambitious design, specs and cooling. And if they want to keep the extensible iMac Pro 'Xeon' around it makes sense to keep an ambitious design consistent across both for supply chain cost reduction?

The iMac 5k got an expensive monitor back in the day and the 'very nice' tear drop tapering. That's a long time ago now.

A new design is over due. Putting it on a niche product derived from a mainstream flagship desktop doesn't make sense to me.

They want to sell more iMacs. They need to make it more sexy. If it's anything like the challenging XDR monitor design I think they'll sell loads.

Azrael.
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All Apple needs to do is this with the external design and I will be happy! View attachment 914203

That's a smart and evolutionary bezel trim. I quite like it. Sure, I'd take it.

It's not a design revolution though. *looks at the XDR...

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It was interesting in the past. It was a centrepiece of Mac design. It isn't interesting now because it has been exactly the same for too many years, and almost the same for even longer.

Good point. I'd like to see it fly the flag for innovation Mac design for mainstream desktop Macs.

Azrael.
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I may never understand why people care at all about bezel size. I just want a thicker case with adequate (and quiet) cooling so that they can contain a modern and performant CPU and GPU. Everything else is just cosmetics.

It's never 'just' cosmetics with Apple. They kickstarted the design revolution with computers.

To Steve Jobs, it did matter. To Ive.

With the 'swan song' Mac Pro design, Apple clearly values engineering and design.

The iMac is up next. It's way over due.

Sure, we all want better specs. But that design is getting very stale now. Apple are coasting otherwise.

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I can think of 2 reasons:

1. Many people are constrained on desk space, especially those using an iMac at home. Smaller bezels mean less desk space is needed.

2. Screens can be closer in multiple display setups.

Two very good reasons. More desktop space is great. It's the iMac's biggest feature. Be interesting to have slimmer bezels to have two iMacs working side by side...

It could give us, in theory, a 30 inch workspace in the same 27 inch model. Or even, with bit of effort, an XDR iMac with 32 inches of 6k gorgeous ness.

Azrael.
 
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Azrael9

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I think one of the only reason for thinner bezels is that it will show that it's the latest model. This provides people that like to show off with bragging rights. I'm on the side of I don't care much about thinner bezels.

Yeah.

But it's not just about thinner bezels as a design meme. It's also about functionality.

Bigger working space. Higher panel res. Putting two iMacs side by side with minimal carriage way/road track.

It's about cooling. It's about a better dGPU in there. Better specs. Losing the Fusion drive for SSD.

Design...is everything not just the bezels. That's just the tip of the iceberg and leads to all the other changes the current iMac really needs.

It's sitting on its Az design wise and that affects more than just the aesthetic bezel size.

Azrael.
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Curry’s and Amazon in the UK are both out of stock of current gen 27” iMacs. With Prosser saying the iMac is ready to go, is this a sign it’s more than a spec bump if inventory is cleared out virtually everywhere? Strange iMac is in short supply, but MacBook is just fine.

Interesting. Fingers crossed then. The supply chain is drying up of old stock 27's.

Could it be...?

Azrael.
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iPad + Macbook Air: Wednesday
iPhone SE: Wednesday
Macbook Pro: Monday

I think the new iMac will come tomorrow, maybe today. If not than I don't know what Apple's waiting for if they're ready to ship. Sounds weird to me to wait 6 weeks with a ready to ship product only for them to announce it on WWDC.

I hear what you're saying. Common sense says...new design? WWDC show it off.

Spec bump? Just bring it now which fits in with Prosser's ready to ship.

Curious.

But Prosser said that the ATV A12x model has been ready for a year and is collecting dust on a sofa somewhere.

Apple marketing seem to have their own thing going on re: timing of marketing.

Azrael.
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Honestly, I did not understand at all why you think that the new iMac should be now any day? Rumors are always just rumors, but the WWDC is just around the corner and showing the redesign (if it happens) is very concise there. In addition, if you remember, the WWDC invitation card directly says "Hello" as in the original in 1984. This is very simple, but the hint is just concrete.

Yup. 'Hello' is synonimous with the iMac. So that would fit with a seismic (?) redesign.

I'd rather wait to WWDC if it meant a kick az design change.

We've had spec bumps a plenty (aka the minimal effort iMac last year...) be nice to have the whole thing over hauled.

Azrael.
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1984 First Macintosh says Hello
1998 was the first introduction of iMac
2016 “Hello“ was used again, OSX was renamed to macOS
2020: First ARM based Mac says Hello?

An ARM based iMac says Hello?

Probably laptop? As they the '3' attendees are huddled around a laptop?

The PPC/Intel transition 1st appeared as a 'grater' as a dev' kit edition at WWDC.

The 12 inc Macbook could be the 1st 'dev' kit Mac ARM?

With a redesigned iMac also making an appearance.

Azrael.
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If it's before WWDC, it's 100% a spec bump. If it's at WWDC we have a chance at something more substantial.

Didn't the 16 inch Macbook get a 'press release' with it's trimmed bezels?

So the iMac might get a substantial release with slimmer bezels and no major redesign bar (superior cooling of the iMac Pro?)

That could be a press release with immediate availability.

Azrael.
 
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