Just release it already apple wtf
it is still like a month away ugh
it is still like a month away ugh
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Will there ever be a new large iMac (Pro)?
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In your perception. I would be perfectly fine with "just a specs bump" as my only desire in getting a new iMac (wich i need, as my 2012 model crashes Premiere so fast with my A7M3 Footage) and not paying 4k on release that is more than a year old. To me "just a specs bump" is nothing negative. Contrary, it might actually be a positive in price and functionality as i personally much prefer my 2015 MBP with different ports to the redesign it shipped with 2017 and that just recently got a persistent hardware bug of the "newer and thinner" fixed. (keyboard, ESC key) I also preferred the first SE much to the new SE just based on the fact that it is smaller and i don't desire a bigger phone. I like a small phone with the power that allows me to run current Apps and a Camera that takes ok pictures.
Like, i don't need a newly designed iMac that has only ports that nobody uses until this "very first newly designed iMac" actually is dated again like it seems to be the case with the MBP (i write this literally minutes after having been handed a very common, classic, fat usb stick to print something).
I don't need to buy a extra wireless charger to finally have a iPhone that had no holes in it anymore so i can listen to music on BT headphones. Maybe if they get to the point were it actually charges over wifi it and BT headphones are awesome and don't cost 150-200€... maybe i am down than. But now i don't need it. What I need stuff that works.
So i am not negative at all whenever i discover another strong hint that there won't be a redesign. I am actually quite exited since i am reasonably scared that a redesign actually might lead to major drawbacks at a higher price. Also i need that machine and since i will need to go BTO i will still have to wait an extra 3-4 weeks till it arrives... so the prospect of it dropping next Wednesday also is exiting to me. That excitement is probably the only reason i was able to come up with that date based on the info we have as no one else wants to see it.
It is a concept, but one is not enlarged. The concept showed it in 2 sizes to match the current iMac range. More images (including the one with 2 iMacs) and a video here for a really nice design: https://www.yankodesign.com/2020/03...-be-the-design-template-for-the-new-imac-pro/
I think the Twitter post just used the image to attract attention, not to say this is how it will look, but it would be nice if it did (apart from the stand being too high, even with the range of adjustment available).
I love this concept !!! Really it should be what Apple should do. But I doubt it's going to be this ahah !
We knew it was a mockup - its for illustration purposes. As the leaker said slimmer bezels its obvious that he just looked for illustration and not presenting the real thing
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I just did a mock up for fun with space grey. Silver on the redesign looks kinda bland to me.
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Tell him that he is not seeing the bigger picture.
Sure the concept sounds fair but it depends on your needs.
I think we can agree that most people love the camera so me having iPhone 4 (terrible pictures) then iPhone 6 (ok) and now SE - awesome I could now say that perhaps now I have a toaster but before it was something else.
Can Apple innovate with smartphones? Unlikely as there is a limit of what a smartphone can do.
I think there is tons of room to innovate with the AWatch before it becomes another toaster.
To sum up - sure, eventually the analogy will be correct but there needs to be some time and progress before that happens.
Sure the concept sounds fair but it depends on your needs.
I think we can agree that most people love the camera so me having iPhone 4 (terrible pictures) then iPhone 6 (ok) and now SE - awesome I could now say that perhaps now I have a toaster but before it was something else.
Can Apple innovate with smartphones? Unlikely as there is a limit of what a smartphone can do.
I think there is tons of room to innovate with the AWatch before it becomes another toaster.
To sum up - sure, eventually the analogy will be correct but there needs to be some time and progress before that happens.
Thanks for pointing that out! I had to check that again since I have read on several sites and in reviews during the past years that iMac 2017 and 2019 use desktop GPUs. The M has always been an indicator of mobile GPUs but when I check Techpowerup it says "a professional mobile graphics chip" about all current GPUs in iMac, like Radeon Pro 580x, Vega 48, 56, 64. So where do you find the info about iMac Pro having desktop GPU? According to Techpowerup RX Vega 56 and 64 are desktop cards but iMac Pro uses Pro Vega not RX.
Still I would think that the mobile GPUs in iMac can be clocked faster because of the larger chassi and better thermal cooling compared to MBP.
It'll be worth the wait..... 32 inch beauty please!
I’ll try to clarify the situation.
1. The letter X in the Radeon GPU has always meant that the graphics card is overclocked. In this Apple case, it can be considered an easy modification, just like M means that it is mobile.
2. The Pro version of the GPU does not mean that it is mobile, but desktop / for workstations. Nevertheless, Pro versions usually have a lower core frequency and other changes, which makes their performance a little lower than the RX, but it is believed that they are a little more stable in computing.
3. 580, Vega 48, 56 and so on really can not be called mobile, but all this applies to 27 inch iMacs. If we are talking about the 21.5 inches, then there are really mobile GPUs and at least since 2017 they are +- identical to those of the MacBook Pro 15" (Radeon 560, 560X, Vega 20 in 15" and now 5500M in 16 inches MacBook Pro). Let the absence of the letter M not surprise you, because these cards really have a small physical size, which does not happen without consequences. Therefore, they fit in laptops and Mini-ITX solutions.
One thing worth noting is that based on the Eurasian Economic Commission’s cryptographic devices registration database there are still 3 Apple computers unaccounted for from existing models.
For context, these were registered August of 2019 and a few models mentioned here like A2179 and A2251 are the 2020 MacBook Air and 2020 MacBook Pro 13 models.
So given that A2147, A2158, and A2182 are still unaccounted for. Who knows, maybe we’ll get some updates.
Furthermore, this can be an indicator of some sort of a redesign (whether it be as big as a full redesign or as small as an internal cooling change), given that spec bumps typically keep the same model number.
On further thought, if anything this makes me think that a minor update with better cooling, newer camera, and a spec bump may be more likely given the timing of this.
For context, these were registered August of 2019 and a few models mentioned here like A2179 and A2251 are the 2020 MacBook Air and 2020 MacBook Pro 13 models.
So given that A2147, A2158, and A2182 are still unaccounted for. Who knows, maybe we’ll get some updates.
Furthermore, this can be an indicator of some sort of a redesign (whether it be as big as a full redesign or as small as an internal cooling change), given that spec bumps typically keep the same model number.
On further thought, if anything this makes me think that a minor update with better cooling, newer camera, and a spec bump may be more likely given the timing of this.
Dude if all you need is a specs bump why you here? Just up-spec an iMac and move on with your life and the design you're happy with. Life's too short! Don't harsh on the folks that want something more.In your perception. I would be perfectly fine with "just a specs bump" as my only desire in getting a new iMac (wich i need, as my 2012 model crashes Premiere so fast with my A7M3 Footage) and not paying 4k on release that is more than a year old. To me "just a specs bump" is nothing negative. Contrary, it might actually be a positive in price and functionality as i personally much prefer my 2015 MBP with different ports to the redesign it shipped with 2017 and that just recently got a persistent hardware bug of the "newer and thinner" fixed. (keyboard, ESC key) I also preferred the first SE much to the new SE just based on the fact that it is smaller and i don't desire a bigger phone. I like a small phone with the power that allows me to run current Apps and a Camera that takes ok pictures.
Like, i don't need a newly designed iMac that has only ports that nobody uses until this "very first newly designed iMac" actually is dated again like it seems to be the case with the MBP (i write this literally minutes after having been handed a very common, classic, fat usb stick to print something).
I don't need to buy a extra wireless charger to finally have a iPhone that had no holes in it anymore so i can listen to music on BT headphones. Maybe if they get to the point were it actually charges over wifi it and BT headphones are awesome and don't cost 150-200€... maybe i am down than. But now i don't need it. What I need stuff that works.
So i am not negative at all whenever i discover another strong hint that there won't be a redesign. I am actually quite exited since i am reasonably scared that a redesign actually might lead to major drawbacks at a higher price. Also i need that machine and since i will need to go BTO i will still have to wait an extra 3-4 weeks till it arrives... so the prospect of it dropping next Wednesday also is exiting to me. That excitement is probably the only reason i was able to come up with that date based on the info we have as no one else wants to see it.
I have explained it to you before.
See? Its not just me. So yeah, be optimistic and positive otherwise whats the point? :-D
See? Its not just me. So yeah, be optimistic and positive otherwise whats the point? :-D
Apple is harsh, subjecting us to this interminable wait...
I have explained it to you before.
See? Its not just me. So yeah, be optimistic and positive otherwise whats the point? :-D
I am optimistic and positive. I am not creating your negative feelings, neither will Apple in case my theories prove to be true. You chose to see my different desire, interpretation of the leaks we have and guesses based upon them as something to create negative feelings about.
Look at it this way and think about it for a second:
I could very well handle a redesign,
best case is i love it and the price is stable,
worst case is that i think the changes are not desirable and chose getting the old machine on a discount and be happy with it like i did with my MBP 2015 over the redesign 2017 or the original SE over every iPhone released in the past four years. Like i said before, i am very happy with my 2012 iMac and the only reason i am upgrading is video editing. - You chose to see that this is not overwhelmingly positive attitude, but i got, and i will be getting, what i want and what i need and very likely be satisfied for a very long time with it.
On the other hand some people here seem like they "could not handle" a specs bump without experiencing a plethora of negative feelings. And thats very interesting, because at that point your need seems to not be "a machine that serves me well in what i want and need to do" but "i need something new and shiny to" - wait for it - "make me feel good". And thats were the snake it's biting it's own tail. Spending 50$ on a T-Shirt (only 20$ in your pocked xD) won't fix your negative feelings. No one or no thing creates your feelings but yourself.
Pixel to pixel distance is 27 um larger on the 23,7 inch 4K display compared to the 5K 27 inch. However it translates to 25 %longer distance. Will that be visible ? Biggest problem I have with my old thunderbolt displays compared with my MBP retina display is the the resolution. Text is much clearer on the MBP. No gaming here. I may like a 23,7 inch because it takes up less space. However, I think the 27 inch bezel shrinks will make it less bulky.I know but I don't mind since I'm using a 21.5" from 2011 with 1920x1080 resolution. I rather take better gaming than higher DPI.
I'd really like a 32" as that allows us dual screen types to go to just the one screen, but hey, if its an around about 27" 5K or 6K then I won't complain. The only, um, issue with higher pixel counts is the GPU; and that is a big question mark on any upcoming iMac. Whatever the screen is I'll definitely up-spec it to the very best card available.
In any really good fake news, there is a grain of truth. What is true and false? Mockups - no truth whatsoever while the release date and specs are very plausible but with no surprises. A leaked image must look like crap to be believable. The interesting part is the 23 inch and the discontinuation of the 21.5 inch.
What kind of specs are you going to take? I'm thinking of something like 10600K 6 core / 12 threads and top GPU, like 5700 PRO. SSD would be 512gb-1tb depending on the prices and I'm hoping that the RAM can be changed at home. If not, I'm ordering with 32gb no matter the cost.
I'm hoping that this setup would not cost over 3000 euros. This can be, if the SSD prices go down from current configurations and the RAM is not too expensive. I would use the machine for video editing, music production (basic, at home) and some gaming.
I'm hoping that this setup would not cost over 3000 euros. This can be, if the SSD prices go down from current configurations and the RAM is not too expensive. I would use the machine for video editing, music production (basic, at home) and some gaming.
Me too, but just so I can dual screen with two 32in monitors!
Knowing me and my buying pattern and work/hobbies.100900 10/20 core (or 8/16), 32 Gb RAM, GPU mid range (no gamer). 2-4 Tb SSD. It should last me for 10 years. Probably a 27 inch. Noise levels is important