Will there ever be a new large iMac (Pro)?

[Azrael9]

I still hope in "hello"... for a new iMac

Interesting post. Well, you never know. Apple kept the exact nature of the Mac Pro and Pro Display very quiet indeed.

It could be the 27 inch redesign lands 1st with the 23 inch to follow.

There is always hope.

Azrael.
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oh yeah, I agree with you, three computers in 9 years is nuts, but as I said the iMac I currently own and I bought used from eBay when I moved to the US, has developed the dreaded screen blemish on the left bottom corner, so I don’t want to keep it anymore and live with it, I’d like to sell it as soon as possible as it still has some value. My first iMac I bought while living overseas also had this issue and no, I do not smoke and I do not purposely fill up my room with toxic fumes and dust, it is plain bad design from Apple and I got the short end of the stick twice.

Now, when I buy my 3rd iMac I will pay extra for Apple care because of the way these machines are designed and they attract dust inside the screen or whatever other reason.

If you sell to a 2nd hand buyer, be up front with it and get what you can. Or you can probably trade it in at an Apple re-seller when the new iMac launches which must be pretty close now. 4 weeks or less.

My iMac's screen has no blemish in 7.3 years (I've been paranoid about screen burn and so have screensaver settings on an aggressive setting...) and yet I can't use the Mac partition because safe mode won't let me into the Mac partition but I can get into Windows, ironically, on Bootcamp. So, I'm limping along. Until the iMac update, regardless of what that brings.

And yes. That's the achilles heel of the iMac. Throwing away perfectly good screen or hard drive or ram or gpu when one bit of that 'glommed' together design. To me, it's a design weighted in favour of Apple. You can't just replace the defective element. Or in the case of laptops...which are glued together now. Same issue. Something goes wrong you have an expensive repair. Again, weighted in Apple's favour.

Yes. Apple care. Would seem to be prudent. But if Apple's kit is as good as their marketing claims it is...why not offer a 2 or 3 year warranty, eh?

Azrael.
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About a month ago, I was browsing online to get a good deal on a 2019 27" iMac because the one I have right now (Late 2015 27") and I bought from eBay in 2017, has developed a small issue on the screen so I wanted to sell as soon as possible before the value goes down more. I spent almost 2 weeks and then suddenly it hit me. I was that close to buying my third iMac in a period 9 years and it would look exactly the same as the other two. And there, I decided it is just not worth it, sure the 2019 has very good specs and value for money compared to what I had before but I just can't buy the same design for the third time and that is also why I'm even considering getting the iMP which I will probably only use 30% of its overall power as I don't do any heavy professional video or 3-D work, I'm just desperate to get something different even something as simple as a different color. Why are iPads, MacBooks and Mac mini offer the beautiful space grey option and the iMac doesn't? Like, why is it so hard to offer color options especially as the iMP shares the same case as the 27" iMac.

I also skipped iPhone XS and iPhone 11 because I didn't see any value to what they offer compared to the X that I own currently and and they look almost the same. iPhone 12? I will be the first in line to get it because finally the design goes back to the iconic 4 series which is so much better than the generic rounded and slippery design of the 6-11.

So now, either I will be looking for a very good deal on a used iMP or wait for a potential redesign down the line.

The 2019 model was ok. But a very 'lazy' iMac update with aggressive BTO to get to a good spec eg. £3560 for the 8 core with the ram and ssd and the GPU. So I didn't bother in the end. I withdrew my custom.

Same on the iPhones. I've got one. it works. I've given apple £2k for phones. A 'phone.' It's 'just' a phone. So I haven't bought anything in years.

Same with iPads. Apple are so incremental in what they do whilst reaping massive profits so I thought I won't buy an iPad again until it's bigger and light years ahead in speed and design. eg. iPad 3 vs iPad 12.9 A12z (but I want the A14X...) so I didn't buy that either. That and the iPad bend issue. I went to the store to press on the 12.9'er and that's far too much bend for my taste. *seems like that could be problematic.* The 11 incher is far more rigid.

If you want value you have to look outside of the Apple's ecosphere right now. Their success has blinded them.

I'm hoping the iMac restores the 'value' equation. I'll just wait for each device until I feel it's progressed enough in tech'. Just a 'bit faster', a swing on the pantry door and a kick of the backside for my wallet will not do. At all.

Azrael.

 

[tomwilson]

I don´t see that at all. Theres the 13 inch rocking a 10th gen. If apple wants it, apple gets it. It's more of a question if apple already wanted it when it was preparing the iMac for March. I am hoping we at least see 10th gen as a BTO upsell.

Sorry that's what I meant. The retail channel for CPU's might be in short supply, but the supply to OEM's such as Apple is a different matter entirely. Intel knows where their bread and butter is and it's not people buying 1x CPU in a retail box.

 

[Azrael9]

Yes I am thinking of getting a maxed out i9 2019 iMac.......does anybody on this board have experiences with this machine that they would share.

If that's what you want to do, up to you, ofc.

But at least wait until WWDC and then the prices of 2019 will tank. It's 4 weeks.

Giving you more for the same price or a steeper discount on the iMac you want.

Azrael.
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It's likely a matter of weeks away, unless utterly desperate I'd wait.
I'm macless and holding on.

Same here. Macless and holding on.

Unless I saw an iMac Pro for £2.5k brand new... ie. It would have to be a crazy deal to get me to budge.

Azrael.

 

[Migranya]

Sorry that's what I meant. The retail channel for CPU's might be in short supply, but the supply to OEM's such as Apple is a different matter entirely. Intel knows where their bread and butter is and it's not people buying 1x CPU in a retail box.

Yes, and keep in mind that Apple surely received the 10900(K) CPUS some months ago ?

 

[Azrael9]

That amount of new machines sounds so crazy to me.

I am still running my iMac 2012 and the only reason i need to upgrade it is for Video work. I was looking into coding, so it would be sad Xcode would be gone with the next OS X Update (i think) - but that was more like a geek hobby and i still have my MacBookPro.
Added benefit to the new iMac will be that a new GPU should enable me to play Planet Zoo in a less than Playstation 2 look (but yes, that game runs perfectly fine on NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 512 MB with low settings). But i would not buy a new iMac at 4000€ for that obviously. I would not even buy a 800€ gaming pc for that.
For Lightroom and my new SonyA7M3 this iMac 2012 actually works out better than my MacBook Pro 2015. The Retina just kills performance in Lightroom i think.

Before that i had one other iMac... it took it with me when i moved out of my parents house. My dad still uses the iMac he got back than (2008) when i took the old one... so what i took must have been a 2006 or 2007 model and i used it till 2012 when i just needed some extra power for Uni Design projects.
So this iMac we are waiting for right now will be my third in 14 years and at 4000€ it better make it to at least six years.

My MacBook (2008, first Aluminum one, only one without the Pro i think) i replaced nearly 9 years after i bought it. Granted, installing a SSD prolonged the life of that one massively, still was able to get 1/3 of the buying price when i sold it.
I got the 2015 on sale back than because i was not happy with no MagSave and all the USB-C Ports on the redesigned Model. Super happy with that decision because having the ports actually came in very handy on multiple occasions.
But yeah, thats two MacBooks in 12 years and no intention in getting a new one any time soon.
(both 13 inch)

iPad is about the same, got the iPad 2 day one and replaced 2018 with the "consumer iPad". So thats 7 years. But in the end the iPad 2 would do pretty much nothing but play videos properly, just typing input on the keyboard would take seconds to finally show up on screen.

iPhone i am still running the original SE (only my second Smartphone, and fourth mobile Phone) and since i replaced the battery recently i don't feel a need to upgrade (even if it's probably falling of the Xcode Bandwaggon later this year sadly...)

Thats still a good amount of electronic wast for a lot of money. But still, three iMacs in 9 years just wow me.

Yes. Extract the value of paying for 'the best.'

I fully get where you are coming from. My mindset is of similar thought. 'Electronic waste.' I liked that coin of phrase. I'm still using the iPhone 6S Max I bought years ago.

...as a late 2012 iMac owner. 7.3 years. I would have had more months out of it but for the gpu.

*reads post approvingly.

Azrael.

 

[zhenya]

Yes I am thinking of getting a maxed out i9 2019 iMac.......does anybody on this board have experiences with this machine that they would share.

I bought one in March - not the i9 but everything else pretty close to maxed out - 64GB RAM purchased 3rd party.

Granted, I’ve skipped this generation of iMac’s entirely - my home iMac is still a 2008 model! However this iMac is for work, replacing my laptop which is generally docked to a 4k screen as my main device. While I’ll be slightly bummed when a new one comes out, this is a really solid machine. It is rock solid. Never lags. Every other device I use except my iPad Pro now feels glacier-slow in comparison. The screen is still better than you can get for anywhere near a reasonable price point - this was mostly why I went with the iMac rather than a Macbook + 4k screen. I feel like I’m pretty sensitive to fan noise and I’ve honestly never noticed it on the iMac, although my workflow while intense, is does not push the CPU over sustained periods (hence why I opted out of the i9).

Smaller bezels, etc would be great, although to be honest, I never notice in actual use. Mostly I’d like a FaceID camera - higher res would be fine but this is more than good enough for the tons of video calls I’m on. The biggest change would be if they went to a 32” 6k screen. That would be hard to resist - again - I want all the screen real estate I can get, and prefer it to be on a single display.

 

[Moonjumper]

Design is extremely important to Apple. So much so that they wrote a book about it ( Apple Store link to Designed by Apple in California ), and the first product mentioned in the store description is the iMac.

The iMac is iconic to Apple. It is also probably the product most open to inventive design as it is not restricted in form factor by the need for transportability, and that has been used to great effect in the past. The iMac G4 is probably my favourite piece of design ever. To have the iMac stagnate for so long does not look good, it makes Apple appear ordinary.

 

[Freida]

We are so similar its not even funny. I didn't get 2019 iMac because it was a good update.
I also didn't get the iPad because it was weak and the bending issue is preventing me also. Its just too 'fragile' for my liking.
I didn't get £2000 iPhone though as it was just too much and I don't really like the iPhone 11 Pro so I got the new SE.

Hoping the coming iMac will be worth the wait so I can use the extra money I didn't spend on a phone to put into beefier iMac

Same with iPads. Apple are so incremental in what they do whilst reaping massive profits so I thought I won't buy an iPad again until it's bigger and light years ahead in speed and design. eg. iPad 3 vs iPad 12.9 A12z (but I want the A14X...) so I didn't buy that either. That and the iPad bend issue. I went to the store to press on the 12.9'er and that's far too much bend for my taste. *seems like that could be problematic.* The 11 incher is far more rigid.

 

[Shivetya]

Yes I am thinking of getting a maxed out i9 2019 iMac.......does anybody on this board have experiences with this machine that they would share.

I bought mine refurbished from Apple last summer, i9+V48+1tbSSD. When I use it to game it can spin the fans quite a bit and much of this is from CPU spikes. As in it is quick to spin the fans but loathe to bring them back down rapidly

 

[pldelisle]

There is no refurbished iMac and iMac Pro in Canada available on Apple website.

I wouldn't get a 2019 full price. It doesn't worth it. But if I was really in the need of changing, I would consider it refurbished. But it's even not available here... !!!

 

[Freida]

Anyone from these forums buying iMac now for full price is totally insane. Unless you get a good deal then you shouldn't buy anything till WWDC. ;-)

 

[Moonjumper]

Anyone from these forums buying iMac now for full price is totally insane. Unless you get a good deal then you shouldn't buy anything till WWDC. ;-)

Someone who needs it for work could lose a lot of money from not having one if the old one is not up to their current tasks, and that seems to be the case for some posting here. But for those who can wait, then waiting is the best option.

 

[AAtte]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1266008029008281601

 

[Freida]

Someone who needs it for work probably already have a computer. Those that theirs might be dying can still wait and those that theirs died will need it - sure.
I'm also sure that you understood my point and that I wasn't that literal. There are always exceptions

Someone who needs it for work could lose a lot of money from not having one if the old one is not up to their current tasks, and that seems to be the case for some posting here. But for those who can wait, then waiting is the best option.

 

[AlexGraphicD]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1266008029008281601

Whaaatt??? Is it true?? Would love if they had space grey option though.

 

[Freida]

It won't look like this but sure it does look sleek

That plus better specs (gpu for me mainly), upgradable ram = ok, buying

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1266008029008281601

 

[iPadified]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1266008029008281601

iBuy

 

[Dave245]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1266008029008281601

if that is true. It will be an instant buy for me, I love the iMac and really want to update my 2012 one. I wonder if this will be announced at WWDC and then shipped later?

 

[pldelisle]

if that is true. It will be an instant buy for me, I love the iMac and really want to update my 2012 one. I wonder if this will be announced at WWDC and then shipped later?

For sure it's gonna be something like this. The Hello on the invite isn't there just for fun.

 

[Freida]

Pretty much. Announcement at WWDC with shipping next week (July) so its all aligned.

I don't think they will do stand redesign but the reduced chin and bezels are awesome. I think in Space grey it will look amazing

if that is true. It will be an instant buy for me, I love the iMac and really want to update my 2012 one. I wonder if this will be announced at WWDC and then shipped later?

 

[Migranya]

That would be a very good machine, hopefully we get them at these starting prices:

• 23-inch: $1,199
• 27-inch: $1,699

I think these are reasonable prices but we all know it will cost more. Probably I will go for a 23-inch max CPU & GPU specs with 16 of RAM and 512 SSD with a second 23-24" monitor.

 

[pldelisle]

That would be a very good machine, hopefully we get them at these starting prices:

• 23-inch: $1,199
• 27-inch: $1,699

I think these are reasonable prices.

Probably I will go for a 23-inch max specs with a second 24" monitor.

Add 1000$ to the 27 inch.

 

[Dave245]

Pretty much. Announcement at WWDC with shipping next week (July) so its all aligned.

I don't think they will do stand redesign but the reduced chin and bezels are awesome. I think in Space grey it will look amazing

That would make sense, especially with WWDC kicking off on June 22nd. The keynote will probably be on that date and if they announce the new iMac and say something like available next week or Pre-orders start this Friday, that would be awesome.

i will definitely pre-order one of them in Space Grey. I just hope this rumour is true and it isn’t a fake account, I dont know how reliable this person is.

 

[Homy]

If Apple uses the LG 23.7" Ultrafine 4K display for iMac 23" we can get great performance in games. Its resolution is 3840 x 2160 which means you can run games in native 1080p without loosing sharpness. With the current iMac 21" you have to run games in 1152p since its resolution is 4096 x 2304 and with the 27" you have to run games in 1440p. A 23" with Radeon 5500 may be great, not having to buy a 27" for good gaming performance.

 

[pldelisle]

It might just be a guy from this forum trying to trolling us ?