It's written by Windows themselves during the installation to the EFI partition that exists in the system (this is why it's better to have one EFI partition across all the harddisks in the computer).
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Sorry but I am a bit confused by this. My EFI with opencore is in bay 1 and the Microsoft folder with Big Sur (I don't use Big Sur), My main mac OS is is pcie slot 3 NVMe 12.6.2 and my Windows 11 install is in bay 2. All my hard drives have a EFI partition folder although they are empty except for bay 1. So how did Windows know to put the Microsoft folder on efi in bay 1 as apposed to a different efi. Maybe Windows always writes it to bay 1 efi folder on install? Also when I upgraded to Windows 11 there were no new files written to the Microsoft efi folder which I find odd.
That's created by the Windows installer. The process is tranparent to the users.
Empty EFI = no EFI.
How does it know? The firmware tells it which partition was the booting one.
Is it better to have the microsoft folder be located on the Windows drives EFI, someone else mentioned having it in the OC efi folder could potentially erase the BOOTx64.efii with the Windows one when doing a Windows update?
No. You didn't understand, this may happen if you didn't move it (like for example you run OC from the same disk you installed Windows to).
Excellent, this must have worked and worked.
However, that's the path for those who have got time, patience and type precisely into the registry (or don't use a wireless keyboard which does not work in pre-install Window environment). Rufus automates these actions by putting proper settings right into the installer, avoiding typos and misunderstandings of the manual process highlighted at 4:00 in the video and replaces the Media Creation Tool with a much more robust usb writing framework. The only problem - Rufus only works in Windows, so if it is a vanilla install without any previous Windows, your process is really the simplest way possible.
However, that's the path for those who have got time, patience and type precisely into the registry (or don't use a wireless keyboard which does not work in pre-install Window environment). Rufus automates these actions by putting proper settings right into the installer, avoiding typos and misunderstandings of the manual process highlighted at 4:00 in the video and replaces the Media Creation Tool with a much more robust usb writing framework. The only problem - Rufus only works in Windows, so if it is a vanilla install without any previous Windows, your process is really the simplest way possible.
Hi guys, just a quick question before I proceed installing UEFI W10 and upgrade directly to W11 later at some point on my Mac Pro 2012.
I am using OCLP latest release 0.6.1. running Big Sur. Is it ok to assume the procedure you describe on this thread also applies to OCLP? I plan to use a separate SSD on bay4 to install W10 as to keep separate from macOS.
Thanks.
I am using OCLP latest release 0.6.1. running Big Sur. Is it ok to assume the procedure you describe on this thread also applies to OCLP? I plan to use a separate SSD on bay4 to install W10 as to keep separate from macOS.
Thanks.
Yes, you can. From within Windows 10, run the W11 setup.exe and install Windows 11. As long as W11 got patched to remove the TPM requirement (or if you want to do that manually via regedit), you are good to go.
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many points on windows 11 install (from a 5.1 with Monterey and OLCP).
What is the consensus?
I am interested to create an installer, presumably it either native boots or is accessed from OLCP Monterey to install on a another dedicated disk, and most importantly the Windows installer turns off writing security certificates or whatever it does that might brick a 5.1.
How to proceed , which is the best course off action?
many points on windows 11 install (from a 5.1 with Monterey and OLCP).
What is the consensus?
I am interested to create an installer, presumably it either native boots or is accessed from OLCP Monterey to install on a another dedicated disk, and most importantly the Windows installer turns off writing security certificates or whatever it does that might brick a 5.1.
How to proceed , which is the best course off action?
on a 5,1, since you have OpenCore, just use Rufus to create a Windows 11 USB Installer (so you can bypass TPM).hello
many points on windows 11 install (from a 5.1 with Monterey and OLCP).
What is the consensus?
I am interested to create an installer, presumably it either native boots or is accessed from OLCP Monterey to install on a another dedicated disk, and most importantly the Windows installer turns off writing security certificates or whatever it does that might brick a 5.1.
How to proceed , which is the best course off action?
Plug it into the 5,1, boot up the computer, when you see the OpenCore boot picker, choose the Windows 11 USB Installer -- install it to the drive that you want to install it on (your computer will reboot a few times).
Once finished, the computer will reboot, you will see Windows 11 at the OpenCore boot picker (along with Monterey), select Windows and enjoy.
Voila.
So I would use Rufus to set up a USB stick with the bootable Windows 11 installer, then from the Windows 10 desktop, open the stick and double-click on W11 setup.exe?
Mac Sound Solutions indicated you can also boot from the USB stick, and choose the Upgrade option when installing. Is there any benefit to either way, or are they both ultimately doing the same thing anyway?
In my case, I already had the USB stick created, so it was just easier to boot off it from the OpenCore boot picker, but you are right, I also could have just booted into Windows, opened it from within Windows 10 and ran setup.exe
A note of caution though -- I have been having problems with W11 22H2, so I am reverting back to 21H2.
update: you can also use the MCT tool that @startergo is linking. If you have Windows 10 already installed, just use MCT tool and it will upgrade you easily to Windows 11. The same works on a 7,1 (I just did it to install 21H2, since 22H2 was giving me problems).
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I installed monterey on a 5.1 using this tool .
I launched the latest version of the patcher .61 which I have kept on the desktop for ease of access.
I have not seen any rufus or windows installer option in the menus.
i believe rufus is a windows only tool and it appears I am missing some critical information.
To add to the mystery, when i restart monterey I cannot use option-key-reboot because there is no boot selector screen only black screen, although the AMD 7970 card is apparently mac flashed. But flashed with what and which video port to use is also a mystery. There are numerous video ports in addition to other 7970 cards from other manufacturers.
Additionally, would it be possible to install a windows legacy boot option, to avoid any chance of a brick scenario?
At this point all i want to do is create an installer usb, with the brick scenario removed, but NOT to install yet.
What am I missing?
I installed monterey on a 5.1 using this tool .
I launched the latest version of the patcher .61 which I have kept on the desktop for ease of access.
I have not seen any rufus or windows installer option in the menus.
i believe rufus is a windows only tool and it appears I am missing some critical information.
To add to the mystery, when i restart monterey I cannot use option-key-reboot because there is no boot selector screen only black screen, although the AMD 7970 card is apparently mac flashed. But flashed with what and which video port to use is also a mystery. There are numerous video ports in addition to other 7970 cards from other manufacturers.
Additionally, would it be possible to install a windows legacy boot option, to avoid any chance of a brick scenario?
At this point all i want to do is create an installer usb, with the brick scenario removed, but NOT to install yet.
What am I missing?
A few things -- So you're using OCLP or "Open Core Legacy Patcher", and the best way to get support for that is through their Discord channel.
I would've advised you to get rid of OCLP and try the Martin Lo OpenCore package instead -- and then you could troubleshoot here, on these forums, through both Martin's thread and the OpenCore thread (where you could get sorted out).
I would NOT recommend installing Windows in Legacy mode -- especially if you are after Windows 11, as a requirement for it is UEFI.
The last thing -- Rufus is a Windows application that allows you to create a bootable USB flash installer, and it also allows you to easily bypass Windows 11's TPM requirements. Of course, you would need to either have access to a computer running Windows, or have Windows running on your cMP to create the flash installer.
Hope this helps. Check out the OCLP Discord channel.
in the context of what is now OCLP, who can advise the best course of action to create a windows 11 installer?
In terms of Windows, there is zero difference between an OpenCore setup created using the OCLP and any of the others mentioned earlier.
So, get a Windows machine and use Rufus on this to create the USB or use the method in the "OpenCore of the Mac Pro" Thread. As said, the OCLP has a 1 to 1 alignment with what is on that thread when it comes to Windows.
A lesson to learn is that you should not raise the METHOD used to to install OpenCore when bringing issues up:
So, get a Windows machine and use Rufus on this to create the USB or use the method in the "OpenCore of the Mac Pro" Thread. As said, the OCLP has a 1 to 1 alignment with what is on that thread when it comes to Windows.
A lesson to learn is that you should not raise the METHOD used to to install OpenCore when bringing issues up:
- The METHOD used is irrelevant to 99.99% of issues you may face
- The METHOD used often results in many thinking they cannot assist (They use another)
- The METHOD used often results in many refusing to assist (They "hate" the method used)
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What I do to install Windows on my 5,1 is pull the drive from the Mac and put it into an old PC I have in storage. Boot a Windows USB Installer, go through all the installer options, and once setup has copied everything and prompts for a reboot, I turn off the PC, pull the drive, and drop it back into my 5,1. It will do the detecting hardware dance and complete setup with the 5,1 hardware. I just finally gave Win11 a try this weekend, and I ended up using Rufus to make the USB installer, since my old PC is also not capable of the hardware.
I gotta say, it runs really well, and it downloads the updates and all that, so hooray. I was getting tired of the look of Win10, and wanted to give the new Apple integration a try, like iCloud Photos in the MS Photos app.
I gotta say, it runs really well, and it downloads the updates and all that, so hooray. I was getting tired of the look of Win10, and wanted to give the new Apple integration a try, like iCloud Photos in the MS Photos app.
That is basically the same procedure outlined here to be done all on a Mac via a VM:
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Focus there is on Win 10 but a prepared Win 11 ISO should work.
The respected
This can be can be burnt to USB on a Mac using a tool like Etcher:
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You might be able to retire the old Windows unit!
Bare Metal Windows on cMP
PART 1 of 3 This is a guide to installing Windows 10 on Classic Mac Pros without Bootcamp or similar (Bare Metal). This is one of many ways to do this but is a straightforward method. This guide is for installing Legacy Windows, as opposed to UEFI Windows, but can also be used for installing...
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Focus there is on Win 10 but a prepared Win 11 ISO should work.
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MrMacintosh has put a prepped Win 11 ISO on Archive.Org:Windows 11 (21H2) iso NO TPM : Microsoft : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
Windows 11 x64 Bit Version (21H2) downloaded directly from Microsoft & then modified with https://github.com/AveYo/MediaCreationTool.bat with the default...
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This can be can be burnt to USB on a Mac using a tool like Etcher:
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A cross-platform tool to flash OS images onto SD cards and USB drives safely and easily. Free and open source for makers around the world.
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You might be able to retire the old Windows unit!
NEVER install an os from anywhere but manufacturer website. Never.
Not sure where I went wrong, but installed Windows 11 to a seperate NVM blade without issues, have OSX mavericks on another blade in a Highpoint 7110 controller. The issue is I can only boot to windows if I leave the usb installer in, but in the Open core (0.9.0) bootpicker I pick, EFI (NOT THE USB WIN Installer) and then it will show my windows 11 icon and I can boot to it. Without the USB installer drive, I cannot see it at all, only my OSX monterey and recovery options are available. Any suggestions? Also, is it possible to have the bootpicker come up automatically and then set the timeout for it for the default OS?
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Geoff
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