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Indeed. Thanks. I guess I need to avoid T-Mobile and Adobe as well. I hear Android had a major data leak in -- what for it -- 2021. Also, I keep hearing things about past vulnerabilities and security issues relating to a company called Microsoft with some of its products Windows/Office/Edge and services Active Directory/Exchange/Azure. I was really curious about Yahoo! Mail and AOL Mail as they exist today (with their boosted user protections) and whether people here (some with relevant technical expertise) still deemed as them to be security threats today. I understand that I should have been more clear in my original question.
Definitely, especially since T-Mobile suffered 5 data breach since 2018. Clearly your data, privacy and financial information is not top priority.
Adobe meanwhile seemed to get ahead of the bad news, communicating clearly the issue, scope and what consumers can do. Yahoo, kept quiet, LOL.
You want to know the difference between those two companies and Yahoo? Yahoo tried to hide the breach, and down play the severity. Do you really want to trust your personal data with a company that allowed 3 billion accounts to be compromised and not only said nothing but did nothing?
If you want to keep using Yahoo, no sweat off my nose
Google had a data breach with Google+ that was so bad they shuttered the service entirely.
I have recently started using security software just in case. Not too long ago my Amazon account's primary payment method got compromised (thankfully it was a prepaid card not a credit card) and the balance got drained by someone buying a ton of little kid games. Kinda an odd thing to do when you got someone's money, but thieves these days be dumb (when I lived in an apartment, it got broken into, and they stole a monitor, but left the PC, stole the PlayStation 2, left the games, power supply, and controller).
I don't take any chances. Either way, Yahoo! is just no longer relevant today. It'd be like Research in Motion or HTC thriving in 2022. Or America Online.
Yahoo! had a hilarious email bug sometime around 2007-08, that changed words such as 'medieval' and 'evaluate' to 'medireview' and 'reviewuate' due to some type of 'security' that banned words such as 'eval' and 'java' but failed to take into consideration word boundaries, resulting in another 'clbuttic mistake' type error. I tend to still use the word 'reviewuate' as a sort of joke when working on golf carts.
I have recently started using security software just in case. Not too long ago my Amazon account's primary payment method got compromised (thankfully it was a prepaid card not a credit card) and the balance got drained by someone buying a ton of little kid games. Kinda an odd thing to do when you got someone's money, but thieves these days be dumb (when I lived in an apartment, it got broken into, and they stole a monitor, but left the PC, stole the PlayStation 2, left the games, power supply, and controller).
I don't take any chances. Either way, Yahoo! is just no longer relevant today. It'd be like Research in Motion or HTC thriving in 2022. Or America Online.
Yahoo! had a hilarious email bug sometime around 2007-08, that changed words such as 'medieval' and 'evaluate' to 'medireview' and 'reviewuate' due to some type of 'security' that banned words such as 'eval' and 'java' but failed to take into consideration word boundaries, resulting in another 'clbuttic mistake' type error. I tend to still use the word 'reviewuate' as a sort of joke when working on golf carts.
Thanks. I understand what you are saying. My question was more geared to the current state of company practices and should have asked -- is it safe to use today? I am not sure it is fully accurate for you to say that the company "did nothing" (adoption of 2 step verification, password changes, cookie purging, etc.) but I understand it really boils down to trust. For me, once Experian was hacked, it became apparent that there is risk everywhere no matter my beliefs on how well company will safeguard information. So I try to look at the current state of things. How else could I be comfortable using a Windows PC along with my MBP? So, I do understand the emotional part of using a product.
As for security, it is, in fact, a top priority for me -- why else would I be asking these questions? Most of my email comes through a business webhosting service. Thanks again.
Interesting. What's your recommended public email service? Something like Proton I assume from your concerns or are you okay with something like Gmail?
I could have made my own email server but right now I stick with Outlook. I do have a paid service that uses 'mail.com' that works with every email client ever released, but unfortunately a lot of companies I do business with don't like that domain and give me an error that it's not a 'valid email address'. Not sure why.
A lot of people today will trust a company no matter how many mistakes or screwups they made, while I'm of the sort that no longer does business with anyone who screws their customers over, fails to listen to their demand, or constantly breaks things. That's why I gave up on Apple a year ago. Broken butterfly keyboards, iOS 7, bendgate, antennagate, batterygate, watches with screens popping out, irreperable AirPods (despite Apple claiming to love the earth), and most importantly, failing to listen or cater to customer demands. I HATED HATED HATED iOS 7 and sadly they haven't changed a thing to undo that mess of 80s design. If a company refuses to cater to customer demand (NO ONE asked for UI to be flat!, NO ONE asked for a huge screen!) I stop giving them my money. I am sick and disgusted at companies who think they're Gods and make decisions and when customers complain, they just react 'screw you curmudgeon! get used to it!'. I am sick of companies who care more about shareholders than their actual customers.
Yahoo! on the other hand is just a company who was relevant in 1998-2004 and since has not done anything to keep up with times, and falls into the 'K-Mart Syndrome'. They're on life support, hardly care for security, and I can no longer trust they'll be around in a year or so. I'm a big fan of longevity.
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Why are you here then?
iOS 7 was nearly a decade ago.
Apple's resistance to going back to the iPhone 5s form factor tells us that consumers prefer phablets.
Apple's attempts at the mini all tells us few are interested in a small phone. It appears to be the least popular iPhone product line.
If I only knew that larger phones = larger mAh batteries we would have gone with all the Plus models since the iPhone 6 and the Max models since the iPhone Xs.
I am hoping for the Max's 6.7" display growing to at most 7.2" while doubling battery from 4,352 mAh to over 8,700 mAh so we'd get over 10 days of charge at hopefully less than 340 grams.
By comparison the smallest screen iPad mini is 7.9" and the heaviest is 341 grams.
Although few wanted it a 18,000 mAh iPhone with nearly 1 month charge would be nice to have.
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If that company is using Windows 10, in June of 2022, that company will stop using that process because Internet Explorer will be removed from Windows 10.
https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2021/11/02/edge-ignite-nov-2021/
To be fair it goes back to the windows 7 days. It just most windows users over look it now.
The taskbar has Icon with no label similar to dock the only difference is it is on panel with start menu but Icon than say the traditional taskbar like below like in windows vista.
That does mot use Icon but label and if you open say two Firefox apps you have two on the taskbar not grouped in Icon like dock where you have to go to Icon to see how many are open.
Apart from that and it is in the middle and the start menu is similar to the launchpad in OSX. Showing Icon to launch app than list view is probably creating this Mac hybrid feel.
Even Linux mint looks more windows like than say windows 11 that is trying some thing different and well obviously very touch oriented.
Not sure what you mean by other businesses think like my boss!
If any businesses values security and does not want malware or hacking why would they use internet explore?
Do they not care about security?
Are they trying to get virus and spyware on their computer?
I was very fond of Windows 7 and Windows 11 is nothing like Windows 7. Aesthetically maybe, but that’s as far as the similarities go. There’s so many changes that make so little sense for absolutely no reason. And they’ve made all the tiniest day-to-day things more difficult.To be fair it goes back to the windows 7 days. It just most windows users over look it now.
The taskbar has Icon with no label similar to dock the only difference is it is on panel with start menu but Icon than say the traditional taskbar like below like in windows vista.
That does mot use Icon but label and if you open say two Firefox apps you have two on the taskbar not grouped in Icon like dock where you have to go to Icon to see how many are open.
Apart from that and it is in the middle and the start menu is similar to the launchpad in OSX. Showing Icon to launch app than list view is probably creating this Mac hybrid feel.
Even Linux mint looks more windows like than say windows 11 that is trying some thing different and well obviously very touch oriented.
Some managers/CEO do not understand security benefits, but do understand that it costs money.
That's why they put in fake security cameras that are only for show.
That's why they hire their nephew to 'run security'
And they don't understand that there are hackers who will identify their companies and target them.
Yes, but what happens when a Win10 update removes IE from the workers' remote computers?
- Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC exemption
- VMWare or Citrix virtual app
- Buy enough time to migrate to new web app
Windows 11 sure does have that touch screen vibe.
But Microsoft trying to kill the control panel and harassment of one drive, xbox and office 365 just to name some and wanting you to set up Microsoft account.
Yea Windows Vista and windows 7 did not have this bloat and harassment.
I think the "killing" of the control panel is a good move and should happen. The settings app is what they were wanting to replace the control panel. One the major gripes I have with MSFT is the half-assed implementation. We've been dealing with overlapping tasks/services between the control panel and settings app far too long.
As for the "harassment" Since I'm a gamepass and office 365 subscriber, I don't see that, I guess I'm one of those consumers that just fall into what MSFT is offering. You can uninstall OneDrive completely, I don't believe its straightforward but I use a debloater script from Chris Titus: https://www.christitus.com/debloat-windows-10-2020/
Part of his debloater PowerShell script can uninstall/delete OneDrive
It feels like it's been 20 years haha. I was an Insider for Windows 10 (run in a VM on my iMac) and I sent them a "comment" about it, and I'm sure thousands of others did too. And still, there they both were on official release day...
Me getting out the popcorn while I hear the boss yelling at her contract IT person over it. Me also having to dodge workers dismantling the workshop while they rip out the now useless IP camera system that was hardwired. My frustratin level going over 9000.
I think auto-updates are turned off somehow since cortana is still a full-blown search field on that PC. It's possible the number of fake security apps have bum-frelled Windows Update.
The IP cameras run off of a small PC used as a DVR that hosts its own website over local network. No internet needed. IE is used to pull up its IP address and since the website it hosts requires Flash, IE is all that can still run it, given it's no longer updated. You can still access Chrome/Edge via desktop shortcuts to our parts supplier or Yahoo! Mail, you just cannot launch them by clicking the icon. Somehow they blacklisted the ability to do that since it changes the default website handler and breaks the camera system.
Windows Vista didn't have a lot of bloat but it did have an overzealous implementation of User Account Control which many turned off because it was so invasive, that even changing the date/time made one pop-up.
It also had this nonsensical 'error' that actually indicated success?
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Re what happens when IE is removed from Win 10.
I used to work for a company that made medical software for doctors' surgeries. It was written for Mac System 9. This was soon after OS X had come out, but you could still use System 9 (Classic Mac) SW via Rosetta.
I warned the boss that she needed to have it ported to OS X. Boss lady said "Apple will never abandon Classic Mac Software".
A few years later Rosetta disappeared. So did her company.
IE will go the way of Netscape Navigator. Companies that are welded to IE will go the same way.
I used to work for a company that made medical software for doctors' surgeries. It was written for Mac System 9. This was soon after OS X had come out, but you could still use System 9 (Classic Mac) SW via Rosetta.
I warned the boss that she needed to have it ported to OS X. Boss lady said "Apple will never abandon Classic Mac Software".
A few years later Rosetta disappeared. So did her company.
IE will go the way of Netscape Navigator. Companies that are welded to IE will go the same way.
I tell the boss (and her daughter) that win11 WILL happen, and IE WILL die, and be gone. They just shrug it off as 'NOT SCIENTIFICALLY POSSIBLE!'
I think the reality is they fail to grasp the way Windows Updates work today. It's no longer basic security patches or service packs, but full-on feature updates/complete version changes. They're both still stuck on Windows XP thinking re: Windows Update.
They still think that a full-on Windows update like from Vista to 7, or 7 to 10, etc requires purchasing a CD-ROM and manually installing it.
I think the reality is they fail to grasp the way Windows Updates work today. It's no longer basic security patches or service packs, but full-on feature updates/complete version changes. They're both still stuck on Windows XP thinking re: Windows Update.
They still think that a full-on Windows update like from Vista to 7, or 7 to 10, etc requires purchasing a CD-ROM and manually installing it.