I can see where Microsoft has taken its own path with its icons. This hasn't changed much since Windows 98 though. It's nothing new.
Like I said before Apple likes to use more utilitarian and surgical colors.
The Taskbar looks fine here.
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Windows 7 RC Discussion
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Like I said before Apple likes to use more utilitarian and surgical colors.
The Taskbar looks fine here.
That's just inaccurate, any machine that runs Vista will run window 7, and probably better than it ran vista.
I have no problem with critiquing windows, but if the criticism is unfair, it's unfair.
The task bar is an improvement over Vista. Much easier to use and I like the transparency. But I don't think it's as elegant as Leopard. Windows 7 more goofy in a good way. -Well I know what I mean any way.
Thanks, those do look cool, but I was really just making a joke about Redmond developing "style". It was pretty poor attempt on my part....
Sorry I didn't get the joke. I'm a little drugged up.And I said almost! It's almost like they're developing a sense of style.
Been using the RC for a couple of days now. Not bad. No problems here (unibody Pro 2.66, running 64-bit version).
My only issue is learning how to not use touch-click. It took me a while to realize how to right-click too.
My only issue is learning how to not use touch-click. It took me a while to realize how to right-click too.
Yup it would be wonderful if Apple finally released drivers for this.
Along a similar line my keyboard backlight is now permanently on and as I'm in a bright room the keys to turn it down/off are disabled. Doesn't really bother me, just strange that it started today.
A quick question (without reading all 8 pages of this thread); has anyone run W7 via Fusion?
Thanks!
Thanks!
here is what I had to say about running under Fusion:
This tread is not intended to flame but to be as factual as I could be, given that I own about $10,000 in Apple hardware and software and only use Windows for 3 apps that are industry standards for my profession: Visio, MS Project, AutoCad.
Having used the original release of Win 7 for many months on an every day basis and having recently installed Win 7 RC, I must tell you, the boys and girls in Washington State have finally got their s*** together. This is, BY FAR, the very best OS Microsoft has ever made.
Even though I am running both the 32 and 64 bit versions under Fusion on my MBP (17", 4gb RAM, 250gb disk, 2.66Ghz cpu)
1. Performance is very good...dare I say...excellent. I would love to try this either in Boot-camp or on a Dell laptop to see how it runs natively but I'm guessing it screams.
2. Look and feel remains solid. I have not noticed any screen 'twitchiness', blinking etc.
3. As with the initial release, Microsoft apps load incredibly fast, probably because they load some of the code when the system boots, but, hey, fast is fast.
4. The initial load/start time for the OS under Fusion is about 70 seconds...too long BUT how much of that is Fusion not being optimized for Win 7? Need to wait and see what VMware has up their sleeve.
5. The time to power down the OS is 14 seconds. Very acceptable.
6. installing apps is easy and uneventful.
7. File sharing with the 'host' MBP is easy to use.
8. The basic games are now working...big deal.
9. Switching to Unity mode is fast and works great so far.
10. Switching back to native mode from unity mode is a bit twitchy...screen flickers a bit. I bet this will be addressed when VMware officially release an upgrade that supports Win 7.
11. Apple wireless keyboard and mouse required no additional attention to work...they just, well, worked.
Does Apple have cause to be concerned?
Well, maybe. This is the REAL Vista. The one they SHOULD HAVE released.
Would I switch back to a PC because of Win 7?
No. It is a very good OS but I have no compelling reason to ditch OSX.
Will this product keep Apple's market share at the lowly single digits it has wallowed in for about 3 decades?
Hmm...tough one to answer but my guess is ...yes. Corporate America will drive this in the end but if the CIOs see what I am seeing, they are probably thinking what I am thinking.
Most people will continue to use osx just because they have a mac, even if W7 is better for them anyway. Why spend $2000 on a laptop if you are going to run an OS that works perfect on a $700 laptop, right? Apple wont lose their marketshare simply because people need a reason to keep that expensive mac they bought.
Indeed the main threat here comes from people who are thinking of switching and people buying their own machine for the first time.
Why? What wil make it so different that the average user will pass on switching to OS X for it? I don't think very many people who didn't really keep up in the computing world even knew Vista sucked the way that it did and visually this isn't much of a difference from Vista so how will they distinguish?
It will come down to people actually using it and what they read in the press/online or hear from friends. It's all about perception - someone using XP who thinks Vista is horrible only has one other practical option so they will be inclined to investigate OS X. Now that W7 will have the perception of being a really good OS the average user would probably stick with Windows.
I apologize, I am getting senile; I actually read your whole review (and was impressed enough that I created a new 40GB partition on my dual booting XP/Vista HP laptop and installed 7 today) but neglected to notice that you were running it in Fusion.
Thanks for posting; I think I will give it a try on my iMac!!
Anyone else having issues with sound on Windows 7 32 Bit when playing games on MBP?
Music plays fine with no issues, however when playing games (tested UT3 and Grid so far), the sound cuts out after a minute or 2 and then doesn't restart till game is closed and reopened, then same thing happens.
Tried using Windows Updater through device Manager but says the realtek High Definition Audio is up to date. Had a look on the Realtek Website and found a driver dated 20/04/09 (the one in DM was January), R2.22 so downloading that atm and will see if that fixes it.
Any MBP users with 64 Bit had any issues with games? Wondering whether to give it a try again.
Music plays fine with no issues, however when playing games (tested UT3 and Grid so far), the sound cuts out after a minute or 2 and then doesn't restart till game is closed and reopened, then same thing happens.
Tried using Windows Updater through device Manager but says the realtek High Definition Audio is up to date. Had a look on the Realtek Website and found a driver dated 20/04/09 (the one in DM was January), R2.22 so downloading that atm and will see if that fixes it.
Any MBP users with 64 Bit had any issues with games? Wondering whether to give it a try again.
Two finger trackpad right-click doesn't seem to be working in bootcamp. From what I have been experiencing, most of the problems are stemming from Apple's Vista drivers.
I really like it, though I'm kinda getting bored with it...linux has spoiled me...I seriously am freaking out over no terminal or repository
I really like it, though I'm kinda getting bored with it...linux has spoiled me...I seriously am freaking out over no terminal or repository
Play with powershell it is more terminal-esque than the usual dosbox.
How did you get the Games Explorer pinned to the Taskbar? Does it have it's own jumplist?
I've installed it on my MBP 2.2 via Virtual Box. Nice that the two-finger right-click seems to work normally... but, sorry to say, I'm really not excited about Win7. On one hand, it still feels very Windows-esque, only it's visually much more slick. Yet, again like when I first tried XP after some time on Win2k, things are just not where you'd expect them - it doesn't feel intuitive to me, and I see lots of things that just seem like Johnnie-come-lately copies of long-term existing OS X ideas. I would have liked to have seen some actual new ideas, but the whole thing still seems tied to the old legacy Windows 'style' down to the slightly jittery cursor arrow. Still feels like an old Cadillac with all the electric options and pretty sheet metal covering up old wiring and yesterday's technology. It's just an impression. The whole thing still feels dated and old, with a new coat of paint. Other than cheaper hardware in some cases, I still think I'd have to recommend Mac to my friends... the Mac interface is just more 'connected' and feels more natural. It's a hard thing to really explain, but once you've been on it for awhile, and all the little things you don't really think about become part of the way you work, it makes Windows, even Win7 feel frustrating to use.
It's just my $0.02. It's nice to know it's an improvement, but it's nowhere near any kind of reason to switch from Mac back to Windows in my book.
I'll keep trying it out with some legacy Windows software I've got and see how it settles in.
BTW: I don't get what all the fuss over wallpaper is. I certainly tend to use my own digital shots a lot, but lordy, there's a lot of stuff out there on the web for the asking, or the taking. Who limits themselves to the wallpaper/jpgs that come stock with an OS anyway? They're cool for the first week or so... but they're the first thing I usually get rid of...
It's just my $0.02. It's nice to know it's an improvement, but it's nowhere near any kind of reason to switch from Mac back to Windows in my book.
I'll keep trying it out with some legacy Windows software I've got and see how it settles in.
BTW: I don't get what all the fuss over wallpaper is. I certainly tend to use my own digital shots a lot, but lordy, there's a lot of stuff out there on the web for the asking, or the taking. Who limits themselves to the wallpaper/jpgs that come stock with an OS anyway? They're cool for the first week or so... but they're the first thing I usually get rid of...
For some reason, the entire upper row of shortkeys stopped working on my MBA revB (brightness, volume).
I am also getting some driver issues in the device manager with coprocessor
The secondary click wasn't working earlier, but it did after I restarting the machine.
Any idea when Apple is going to update these drivers?
Everything is working fine on my 3.06 iMac if I recall correctly!
I am also getting some driver issues in the device manager with coprocessor
The secondary click wasn't working earlier, but it did after I restarting the machine.
Any idea when Apple is going to update these drivers?
Everything is working fine on my 3.06 iMac if I recall correctly!